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 Tanah runtuh bukan bermula di Father’s Organic Far

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post Dec 21 2022, 01:35 PM

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Given a very basic restaurant pun kena follow sop , ada emergency exit, ada fire extinguisher tank yg belum expire...dll. staffs & customers are human too
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post Dec 21 2022, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(Accord2018 @ Dec 21 2022, 01:34 PM)
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you see this, the judge will believe it is not a business or not?  got check in check out time somemore.
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money making business
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post Dec 21 2022, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(ReoAyanami @ Dec 21 2022, 01:29 PM)
So, now you are saying that there shouldn't be so many people there but companies do company events on their on premises all the time. What if there was a camping company event at the farm for employees and their family and there are 100+ people staying there overnight. Does the business need to apply for licenses and permit for such an event just because there will be a lot of people?

Are the camp operators legally required to provide more safety SOP than what they provide to their workers? All the stuff you mentioned sounds like it should be there for their workers too.
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hey dude, companies do event or camping on their own property don't involve money transaction

the camp boss here charged on per pax basis. if run like a business, please do get a business license and third party liability insurance, fire insurance, and etc

you run cheapskate like this camp boss, it is matter of time before the law catch up and come down hard on him
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post Dec 21 2022, 01:40 PM

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1. Ada ke tapak perkhemahan komersial di Malaysia ni yang "berlesen"?
2. Kalau ada, apakah lesennya?

Rasanya memang tiada undang-undang sedia ada yang KHUSUS pada aktiviti perkhemahan (memasang, menyewa, bermalam) di atas tanah persendirian.

Samada di bawah PBT (Pihak Berkuasa Tempatan) a.k.a Majlis Perbandaran, Bomba, Perhilitan, dan yang sewaktu dengannya.




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post Dec 21 2022, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Dec 21 2022, 01:38 PM)
hey dude, companies do event or camping on their own property don't involve money transaction

the camp boss here charged on per pax basis. if run like a business, please do get a business license and third party liability insurance, fire insurance, and etc

you run cheapskate like this camp boss, it is matter of time before the law catch up and come down hard on him
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That has nothing to do with the number of people then so why even mention it? sweat.gif

Yes, I recognize it's a business but like I asked in the beginning, is it illegal for a business to rent out their properties for unrelated activities?
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post Dec 21 2022, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(ReoAyanami @ Dec 21 2022, 01:44 PM)
That has nothing to do with the number of people then so why even mention it?  sweat.gif

Yes, I recognize it's a business but like I asked in the beginning, is it illegal for a business to rent out their properties for unrelated activities?
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illegal or what depending on scope of rental

for example residential title property being sublet to become air BnB is illegal outright

you cant do activities not authorized as per zoning by local council

like running hotel / resort on a farm land zoned for 'agricultural purpose'

This post has been edited by desmond2020: Dec 21 2022, 01:54 PM
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post Dec 21 2022, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(Buffalo Soldier @ Dec 21 2022, 01:40 PM)
1. Ada ke tapak perkhemahan komersial di Malaysia ni yang "berlesen"?
2. Kalau ada, apakah lesennya?

Rasanya memang tiada undang-undang sedia ada yang KHUSUS pada aktiviti perkhemahan (memasang, menyewa, bermalam) di atas tanah persendirian.

Samada di bawah PBT (Pihak Berkuasa Tempatan) a.k.a Majlis Perbandaran, Bomba, Perhilitan, dan yang sewaktu dengannya.
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yes for non commercial camping activities

for this type of resort style operation, you gotta be kidding me if similar hotel permit is not required
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post Dec 21 2022, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Dec 21 2022, 01:52 PM)
illegal or what depending on scope of rental

for example residential title property being sublet to become air BnB is illegal outright

you cant do activities not authorized as per zoning by local council

like running hotel / resort on a farm land zoned for 'agricultural purpose'
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Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't zoning only applicable to permanent structures or anything that would change the the land? Would camping be prohibited if it does neither of those two things?
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post Dec 21 2022, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(ReoAyanami @ Dec 21 2022, 01:44 PM)
That has nothing to do with the number of people then so why even mention it?  sweat.gif

Yes, I recognize it's a business but like I asked in the beginning, is it illegal for a business to rent out their properties for unrelated activities?
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It should.

Ur bisnes is food suddenly u rent out do stock tradings. U cant say u got license liao n no related license to rent out for stock trading from a food stalls.

While no license for camping, the farm is license for agricultural only. The operators just trying to move goalpost only. When profit time buy merc buy banglo din see make hoohaa why no camping license available n make them operate riskily.
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post Dec 21 2022, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(Accord2018 @ Dec 21 2022, 01:34 PM)
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you see this, the judge will believe it is not a business or not?  got check in check out time somemore.
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Jungle trkkig shud have applicable applications n license?
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post Dec 21 2022, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(ReoAyanami @ Dec 21 2022, 01:44 PM)
That has nothing to do with the number of people then so why even mention it?  sweat.gif

Yes, I recognize it's a business but like I asked in the beginning, is it illegal for a business to rent out their properties for unrelated activities?
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of course logically before you rent out, you will ask your tenants you rent the place for what. If to do personal camping, then it is not illegal. But the situation of this FOF is not renting but doing business.

You can camp in your house garden also no license is required.

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post Dec 21 2022, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(party @ Dec 21 2022, 02:04 PM)
Jungle trkkig shud have applicable applications n license?
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Public or private property one?
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post Dec 21 2022, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(United Rulez @ Dec 20 2022, 11:39 PM)
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owner: that is my terrace farm, you noob know what
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post Dec 21 2022, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(ReoAyanami @ Dec 21 2022, 02:01 PM)
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't zoning only applicable to permanent structures or anything that would change the the land? Would camping be prohibited if it does neither of those two things?
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you call this 'temporary structure?

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post Dec 21 2022, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(pakmulau @ Dec 21 2022, 02:05 PM)
Public or private property one?
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Both? Shud already have for existing right? Jungle trekking activity exist long time d.
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post Dec 21 2022, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(United Rulez @ Dec 20 2022, 11:39 PM)
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Belum runtuh. Leks dulu...bai mai isap 1 rokok
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post Dec 21 2022, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(party @ Dec 21 2022, 02:07 PM)
Both? Shud already have for existing right? Jungle trekking activity exist long time d.
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jungle treking and camping on gov land need to apply permit from gov

which department ayam forget dy
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post Dec 21 2022, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Dec 21 2022, 01:54 PM)
yes for non commercial camping activities

for this type of resort style operation, you gotta be kidding me if similar hotel permit is not required
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Tak caye, boleh tanya kat PBT.

Pernah teman kawan gi tanya... kena gelak sambil jawap "encik nak lesen apa?"
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post Dec 21 2022, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(Buffalo Soldier @ Dec 21 2022, 02:09 PM)
Tak caye, boleh tanya kat PBT.

Pernah teman kawan gi tanya... kena gelak sambil jawap "encik nak lesen apa?"
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but then no black and white? at least get a surat tiada halangan

all verbal only, later shit happened, whining kena full force of law pula lol
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post Dec 21 2022, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Dec 21 2022, 02:09 PM)
jungle treking and camping on gov land need to apply permit from gov

which department ayam forget dy
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That one full private? I remember private land u do jungle trekking also got application/license?

If tat one gov land..then operator gg

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