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 Help! Honda City Hatchback RS e:HEV or Toyota?, What's your verdict!

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post Nov 29 2022, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(ragecat @ Nov 29 2022, 06:13 PM)
Are you considering a used car?
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No never. It’s more hassle than anything.

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post Nov 29 2022, 07:05 PM

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QUOTE(ragecat @ Nov 29 2022, 06:13 PM)
Are you considering a used car?
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rather take the 16 y.o. city
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post Nov 29 2022, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Nov 29 2022, 10:59 AM)
Thanks oh! I reckon that since my Honda is already 16 years old, even if I get city or vios now , it’s considered an Upgrade, let alone segment-c Altis!

Yeah I think I should look into the Hybrid options, which leave me with City, City Hatchback, HR-V & Cross only at the moment.

I really like the new HR-V, but my only qualms with qualms with HR-V is, it’s a waste of money for me since I most likely just buy and leave it in the parking, cause I don’t drive much. And all the expenses will definitely increase with SUV. It would be a splurge car just for the sake of splurging money.

See how la! Hopefully there will be good news next year!
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If you dont drive much, why do you want to buy a hybrid?
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post Nov 29 2022, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Nov 29 2022, 06:33 PM)
Maybe I misinterpret your indecision on which model as considering an impulse purchase. My apologies. If you are so open and wide as to what models to consider then I suggest NOT to discount the x50. In my mind, 50k - myvi. 70k Yaris, 100k x50 for small size, Alza for big size, 130k Civic or Corolla or Corolla cross hybrid.
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Hence my subtle message not to discount Proton Iriz lol

X50 on the other hand is a bit on the risky side and the long ass wait before you can even begin your ownership process.
I guess not to mention my general hatred to SUV doesn't do the X50 any favours.

Contemplated to get another spare car hence the Proton Iriz.

i was actually open to Perodua since wife and in law side favour Perodua so we went to test drive Myvi and Axia just to be sorely disappointed.
Went to try out the new 2022 Iriz and was pleasantly surprised on how the NVH and overall ride & handling even further improved.
Same sentiments applied to both myself and wife.
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post Nov 29 2022, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Nov 29 2022, 09:44 PM)
Hence my subtle message not to discount Proton Iriz lol

X50 on the other hand is a bit on the risky side and the long ass wait before you can even begin your ownership process.
I guess not to mention my general hatred to SUV doesn't do the X50 any favours.

Contemplated to get another spare car hence the Proton Iriz.

i was actually open to Perodua since wife and in law side favour Perodua so we went to test drive Myvi and Axia just to be sorely disappointed.
Went to try out the new 2022 Iriz and was pleasantly surprised on how the NVH and overall ride & handling even further improved.
Same sentiments applied to both myself and wife.
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Including the dreaded punch CVT?

I’m gonna be honest, if I had to go for IRIZ I’d rather listen to Bobby Ang, get a Saga and wait for the right financial situation to get a Civic lol.
I don’t wanna pay rm40-50k for a car I’m horribly not in love with looks wise. There I said it. I also do hate fugly cars , especially at the wrong price.
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post Nov 29 2022, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Nov 29 2022, 09:55 PM)
Including the dreaded punch CVT?

I’m gonna be honest, if I had to go for IRIZ I’d rather listen to Bobby Ang, get a Saga and wait for the right financial situation to get a Civic lol.
I don’t wanna pay rm40-50k for a car I’m horribly not in love with looks wise. There I said it. I also do hate fugly cars , especially at the wrong price.
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Yeap! Punch CVT was really good post Geely and every MC update it can still improve.

So good it makes the new Myvi CVT felt like punch CVT when it first released on Saga FLX many many years back.
Utter rubbish.

Well looks are subjective and to me it isn't a priority. That said, i think the Iriz looks much better than the Myvi. Maybe again with biases of how well the car drives from very first model (yes, even with pre Geely dreaded punch CVT Vs Myvi 4AT OF ANY generations) until the latest model. I heavily prioritize in a car ride and handling above anything else.
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post Nov 30 2022, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Nov 29 2022, 06:37 PM)
No never. It’s more hassle than anything.
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Follow your heart. There isn't a right or a wrong when it comes to cars, go with something you like/enjoy.

Personally, I'd stick to Proton / Perodua if my budget is around the RM100k region. I don't see a point in spending money on a H/T B-segment car when Proton already does a good job at an affordable price point there. The extra cash can go into something else, saving for a rainy day etc. The exception being if you require/prefer an SUV.

This post has been edited by ragecat: Nov 30 2022, 12:04 AM
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post Nov 30 2022, 08:49 AM

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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Nov 29 2022, 09:55 PM)
Including the dreaded punch CVT?

I’m gonna be honest, if I had to go for IRIZ I’d rather listen to Bobby Ang, get a Saga and wait for the right financial situation to get a Civic lol.
I don’t wanna pay rm40-50k for a car I’m horribly not in love with looks wise. There I said it. I also do hate fugly cars , especially at the wrong price.
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Yeah the updates to Persona/Iriz made the CVT much much better in terms of refinement
Sos, drove a preve before.
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post Nov 30 2022, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(DupeIkan @ Nov 30 2022, 09:49 AM)
Yeah the updates to Persona/Iriz made the CVT much much better in terms of refinement
Sos, drove a preve before.
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Still the high RPM while cruising hurt the fuel efficient of the Persona, one of my friend just sold off his Persona of 2 years after complaining of high fuel consumption when travelling at highway speed, in the end trade in & bought a 2nd hand Vios. laugh.gif
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post Nov 30 2022, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(ragecat @ Nov 30 2022, 12:01 AM)
Follow your heart. There isn't a right or a wrong when it comes to cars, go with something you like/enjoy.

Personally, I'd stick to Proton / Perodua if my budget is around the RM100k region. I don't see a point in spending money on a H/T B-segment car when Proton already does a good job at an affordable price point there. The extra cash can go into something else, saving for a rainy day etc. The exception being if you require/prefer an SUV.
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If I have a Rm100k budget I will definitely not stick to Proton and Peroduo, considering the two Toyota and Honda are more reliable and probably last longer.
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no reason to buy hybrid if your purpose is fuel saving but doesnt drive like 80km per day or more.

usual commute of 20km or 40km ( due to wide spread of MRT/LRT) means just get the usual cheaper petrol honda city/vios.

cheaper to buy/maintain
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post Nov 30 2022, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Nov 30 2022, 10:16 AM)
If I have a Rm100k budget I will definitely not stick to Proton and Peroduo, considering the two Toyota and Honda are more reliable and probably last longer.
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Actually, not really much more reliable.
And even if you replace a Proton engine, it'll still be cheaper than T&H counterpart

But yes, brand perception and if you think the additional 30-40k++ is worth it, then go for it!
For me, i definitely don't think you get 30-40k additional "worth"of car. So unless i go up c segment or other categories of vehicles (eg: actual sports cars), P1/P2 will always have an edge on pricing and value due to our NAP protecting them.
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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Nov 30 2022, 10:16 AM)
If I have a Rm100k budget I will definitely not stick to Proton and Peroduo, considering the two Toyota and Honda are more reliable and probably last longer.
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Disagree, the reliability for P1 and P2 is quite good now. the 40k difference you save can be used for reliability repairs if you are worried or other things you enjoy in life. Best thing for you is to test drive each car by visiting all of the dealerships with an open mind
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post Nov 30 2022, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Nov 26 2022, 01:50 PM)
Hi all,

I have been lookiing at Honda City Hatchback RS e:HEV. Is this worth it?

My main usage:
1. Drive to work, to and fro.
2. Don't really need to fetch anybody in the car.
3. City driving only; sometimes long distance (RARE)
Main Considerations:
1. Hybrid - probably saves some fuel? I know changing battery is expensive but this model comes with 8 years unlimited warranty, no mileage limits.
2. Toyota/Honda because of cheaper maintenance and generally these brands are very reputable and reliable.
3. My current very well-maintained Honda City is about 16 years old, and still works like a charm. Doesn't give me any problems (*touch wood*). So I wanna go back to either Honda/Toyota. I know in terms of driving comfort - Toyota is better right?
4. Hybrid cars are generally quieter. And most likely still will even if it goes up to 10 years old?

I did consider C-Segment cars - Honda Civic and Toyota Altis (Especially Altis cause i really really love the look). Should I look into these upgrade? Cause Honda City Hybrid costs about RM110K on the road.....

SUV(s) like HRV, Cross, Mazda, Subaru did cross my mind, but when i think about all the extra expenses and the fact that I don't really spend or drive that much. Seems like a NOPE to me.

Anyway, any comments, recommendations, experience sharing and etc?
Thank you!
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according to your driving usage vs cost, skip C segments, skip SUV. those are costlier to maintain over time. stick with thr city hybrid. use for 7 years as you planned, then trade it in before the warranty runs out. despite all the negativity in forums, people who had used electric or hyrbid cars will almost never go back to petrol. that says a lot.
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post Nov 30 2022, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Nov 30 2022, 10:16 AM)
If I have a Rm100k budget I will definitely not stick to Proton and Peroduo, considering the two Toyota and Honda are more reliable and probably last longer.
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No problem. Just basing off my experience. I clocked 200k km in 3 years on my gen2 (hand me down 7 year old car) with no major issues during my uni days. Also we have an Iriz and Persona, both 7 years or so, running without any issues.

Between the Jap and local B-segments, I'll go for the Proton as I don't see a point in paying the RM30-40k more for something just a little better. I don't think brand matters much when it comes down to Jap / local B-segment cars. This is my perspective but I may be bias as I do have other cars to use.

If you aren't sure of what to get, its always a good idea to rent it for a day just to play around. I cancelled the CX30 after 6 months (car just arrived as well!) of waiting in favour of a vehicle I rented during a recent holiday.

Edit: on your choice for City Hatch Hybrid, I wouldn't pay the RM110k asking price. Test drove it recently and I don't think feel like its an upgrade over my 11 year old Honda Insight. Either the Cross or the Altis would be a better choice, imo.

This post has been edited by ragecat: Nov 30 2022, 03:36 PM
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QUOTE(ragecat @ Nov 30 2022, 03:28 PM)
No problem. Just basing off my experience. I clocked 200k km in 3 years on my gen2 (hand me down 7 year old car) with no major issues during my uni days. Also we have an Iriz and Persona, both 7 years or so, running without any issues.

Between the Jap and local B-segments, I'll go for the Proton as I don't see a point in paying the RM30-40k more for something just a little better. I don't think brand matters much when it comes down to Jap / local B-segment cars. This is my perspective but I may be bias as I do have other cars to use.

If you aren't sure of what to get, its always a good idea to rent it for a day just to play around. I cancelled the CX30 after 6 months (car just arrived as well!) of waiting in favour of a vehicle I rented during a recent holiday.

Edit: on your choice for City Hatch Hybrid, I wouldn't pay the RM110k asking price. Test drove it recently and I don't think feel like its an upgrade over my 11 year old Honda Insight. Either the Cross or the Altis would be a better choice, imo.
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an Insight is a much bigger car though
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post Dec 1 2022, 08:22 AM

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QUOTE(ragecat @ Nov 30 2022, 03:28 PM)
No problem. Just basing off my experience. I clocked 200k km in 3 years on my gen2 (hand me down 7 year old car) with no major issues during my uni days. Also we have an Iriz and Persona, both 7 years or so, running without any issues.

Between the Jap and local B-segments, I'll go for the Proton as I don't see a point in paying the RM30-40k more for something just a little better. I don't think brand matters much when it comes down to Jap / local B-segment cars. This is my perspective but I may be bias as I do have other cars to use.

If you aren't sure of what to get, its always a good idea to rent it for a day just to play around. I cancelled the CX30 after 6 months (car just arrived as well!) of waiting in favour of a vehicle I rented during a recent holiday.

Edit: on your choice for City Hatch Hybrid, I wouldn't pay the RM110k asking price. Test drove it recently and I don't think feel like its an upgrade over my 11 year old Honda Insight. Either the Cross or the Altis would be a better choice, imo.
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Yeah wor, insight is a bigger car though. It’s like comparing an orange with apple, not the same segment. Of course Altis and cross, hybrid or not will be better than City or Vios la.
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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Dec 1 2022, 08:22 AM)
Yeah wor, insight is a bigger car though. It’s like comparing an orange with apple, not the same segment. Of course Altis and cross, hybrid or not will be better than City or Vios la.
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Whoops, my bad. Did not know the Insight falls under C-segment as it sure does not feel like one! In any case, new tech should feel like an upgrade over 11 year old tech kan? Maybe a better comparison would be the Civic Hybrid (haven't test drive) or the Cross Hybrid.
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post Dec 4 2022, 12:21 AM

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Im driving city hb rs. So, I might be biased.

My previous car is 1.5 MyVi. Test drived City HB RS, Yaris and Cx-3. At the end I chose City HB due to the cabin feeling (yaris seems to be outdated — my own feeling/ opinion) and no “hold brake” functionality which is one of requirement. City HB is definitely more spacious than CX-3.

In term of petrol. I rarely need to go to the petrol station. God bless hybrid! 23.5km/l.

I guess it’s true. I wont go back to the normal one. Hybrid all the way!

Anyways. The best is still for you to test drive all of your options and make your own decision. You’re the one going to pay for it once you signed the agreement, not the forummers. Lol.
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post Dec 4 2022, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(adam.wong @ Dec 4 2022, 12:21 AM)
Im driving city hb rs. So, I might be biased.

My previous car is 1.5 MyVi. Test drived City HB RS, Yaris and Cx-3. At the end I chose City HB due to the cabin feeling (yaris seems to be outdated — my own feeling/ opinion) and no “hold brake” functionality which is one of requirement. City HB is definitely more spacious than CX-3.

In term of petrol. I rarely need to go to the petrol station. God bless hybrid! 23.5km/l.

I guess it’s true. I wont go back to the normal one. Hybrid all the way!

Anyways. The best is still for you to test drive all of your options and make your own decision. You’re the one going to pay for it once you signed the agreement, not the forummers. Lol.
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Did you consider Toyota cross? The price differences between the two aren’t so huge.

Since I have been driving Honda car for 16 years. I have been thinking to just go Toyota for a change but the only hybrid they have right now is the Cross.

Honda city has always been very fuel saving. Even my current Honda city goes about 18-20KM/litre iirc.

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