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 Help! Honda City Hatchback RS e:HEV or Toyota?, What's your verdict!

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post Nov 26 2022, 01:50 PM, updated 4y ago

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Even though I mentioned that I don’t really want SUV, but I’m seriously considering Toyota Cross Hybrid right now, mainly because I also realised that the prices between City Hatchback Hybrid and Cross aren’t that much different when it comes to monthly instalments.

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Hi all,

I have been lookiing at Honda City Hatchback RS e:HEV. Is this worth it?

My main usage:
1. Drive to work, to and fro.
2. Don't really need to fetch anybody in the car.
3. City driving only; sometimes long distance (RARE)


Main Considerations:
1. Hybrid - probably saves some fuel? I know changing battery is expensive but this model comes with 8 years unlimited warranty, no mileage limits.
2. Toyota/Honda because of cheaper maintenance and generally these brands are very reputable and reliable.
3. My current very well-maintained Honda City is about 16 years old, and still works like a charm. Doesn't give me any problems (*touch wood*). So I wanna go back to either Honda/Toyota. I know in terms of driving comfort - Toyota is better right?
4. Hybrid cars are generally quieter. And most likely still will even if it goes up to 10 years old?

I did consider C-Segment cars - Honda Civic and Toyota Altis (Especially Altis cause i really really love the look). Should I look into these upgrade? Cause Honda City Hybrid costs about RM110K on the road.....

SUV(s) like HRV, Cross, Mazda, Subaru did cross my mind, but when i think about all the extra expenses and the fact that I don't really spend or drive that much. Seems like a NOPE to me.

Anyway, any comments, recommendations, experience sharing and etc?


Thank you!

This post has been edited by miyakochan89: Dec 15 2022, 08:19 AM
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post Nov 26 2022, 01:58 PM

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All seems to be good choices. Just buy one u like and is pocket friendly to you. Highest risk whole be the city ehev for me due to extra electronic and battery.
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post Nov 26 2022, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(Balanced @ Nov 26 2022, 01:58 PM)
All seems to be good choices. Just buy one u like and is pocket friendly to you. Highest risk whole be the city ehev for me due to extra electronic and battery.
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Extra electronic? You mean the extra cost of electricity ?
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post Nov 26 2022, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Nov 26 2022, 01:50 PM)
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Anyway, any comments, recommendations, experience sharing and etc?
Thank you!
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set your budget first. too many options will make you confuse
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post Nov 26 2022, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(musteng @ Nov 26 2022, 02:28 PM)
set your budget first. too many options will make you confuse
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These are the cars within my budget la.
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post Nov 26 2022, 04:03 PM

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How far is your work commute to and fro everyday?

Are you in jam everyday?


in my quest to get my car i've tested a few cars LOL. including the city ehev and the altis and the civic(normal one not ehev). No SUV tested though cause i dun like them LOL


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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ Nov 26 2022, 04:03 PM)
How far is your work commute to and fro everyday?

Are you in jam everyday?
in my quest to get my car i've tested a few cars LOL. including the city ehev and the altis and the civic(normal one not ehev). No SUV tested though cause i dun like them LOL
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How do they compare?
Not really in jam for now cause my working hours are early and I get to leave early. But who knows later?

This post has been edited by miyakochan89: Nov 26 2022, 06:06 PM
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post Nov 26 2022, 06:06 PM

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post Nov 26 2022, 06:24 PM

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If you plan to change car after 5years then don't opt for Hybrid.
The pricing increase for Hybrid vehicle compare to normal engine model does not really save your money.
Instead you're paying a lot more just to make you feel like you're saving fuel money.
On rough calculation, the price different for hybrid model equal to 6-7 years of fuel money.
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post Nov 26 2022, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Nov 26 2022, 06:05 PM)
How do they compare?
Not really in jam for now cause my working hours are early and I get to leave early. But who knows later?
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Purely. Personal. Opinion.
My use case is cross bridge everyday in Penang for work and also balik kampong monthly. haha


City EHEV
Feels better to drive than the non ehev city
Very big space in Bsegment. Honda always Duno how magic out space in their cars. I was abit hesitant on this cause I was thinking about battery health. I play RC stuffs, and number enemy of batteries is heat…. Malaysia = heat

Altis
It drives better than the city(it is a C segment). Doesn’t feel as powerful as the city, but it is very comfy, and also very confident in handling turns. Toyota assembly feels much tighter here compared to the city. No obvious loose buttons or rattles even after half year usage(friend has one). A very nice family sedan. With full safety suite and blind spot monitoring. The suspension is oh so good. Lol. Rear double wishbone. This car my stance is, comfort number 1? Then this is it. Also the newer batches have bigger head units which finally makes it acceptable for me. The original launch has a measly 7 inch display with big arse bezels lol.

X50
The engine and transmission is ok. Full suite safety as well. The interior finishings look nice. But once use hand to touch, it doesn’t feel solid. The touch feel does not match the look feel in quality. Example I hold the hand bar in the centre console it squeaks and creaks. I personally do not like cause it rides higher than the rest, so I feel chucked around when cornering.

Vios
I didn’t get to test this. Lol. So no feedback.

Civic
That engine powaahhhhhhhggh
But that cvt noise though…….. 😞
Somehow didn’t leave a memorable driving experience for me. Again Honda magic did its thing, the car has monstrous space to put all sorts of stuff in. Lol cubby holes and holders everywhere. I hate lanewatch, prefer blind spot monitoring.
Half digital cluster is less of a complaint, workable. I think the civic does not have lumbar support, while the Altis has it. My stance on the civic is it’s a very all rounder practical car that is able to satisfy the driver with some engine power, but also have space enough for family to not complain.

Mazda 3
Although not in your list, but as a comparison of moving up the price range gets you what. The mazda 3 basically gives you highest quality interior finishings, from a jap company, before stepping into premium cars like bmw or a merc/audi. Sitting inside I feel like a boss although I’m just a salarymen 😞😞🤣🤣🤣. The drive I can’t say much cause supply shortage cause me no test drive car to chuck around. The mazda 3 will turn heads wherever you go, lol especially if in red color. Can’t miss it. That 5 years free service is tempting though.


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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ Nov 26 2022, 06:49 PM)
Purely. Personal. Opinion.
My use case is cross bridge everyday in Penang for work and also balik kampong monthly. haha
City EHEV
Feels better to drive than the non ehev city
Very big space in Bsegment. Honda always Duno how magic out space in their cars. I was abit hesitant on this cause I was thinking about battery health. I play RC stuffs, and number enemy of batteries is heat…. Malaysia = heat

Altis
It drives better than the city(it is a C segment). Doesn’t feel as powerful as the city, but it is very comfy, and also very confident in handling turns. Toyota assembly feels much tighter here compared to the city. No obvious loose buttons or rattles even after half year usage(friend has one). A very nice family sedan. With full safety suite and blind spot monitoring. The suspension is oh so good. Lol. Rear double wishbone. This car my stance is, comfort number 1? Then this is it. Also the newer batches have bigger head units which finally makes it acceptable for me. The original launch has a measly 7 inch display with big arse bezels lol.

X50
The engine and transmission is ok. Full suite safety as well. The interior finishings look nice. But once use hand to touch, it doesn’t feel solid. The touch feel does not match the look feel in quality. Example I hold the hand bar in the centre console it squeaks and creaks. I personally do not like cause it rides higher than the rest, so I feel chucked around when cornering.

Vios
I didn’t get to test this. Lol. So no feedback.

Civic
That engine powaahhhhhhhggh
But that cvt noise though…….. 😞
Somehow didn’t leave a memorable driving experience for me. Again Honda magic did its thing, the car has monstrous space to put all sorts of stuff in. Lol cubby holes and holders everywhere. I hate lanewatch, prefer blind spot monitoring.
Half digital cluster is less of a complaint, workable.  I think the civic does not have lumbar support, while the Altis has it. My stance on the civic is it’s a very all rounder practical car that is able to satisfy the driver with some engine power, but also have space enough for family to not complain.

Mazda 3
Although not in your list, but as a comparison of moving up the price range gets you what. The mazda 3 basically gives you highest quality interior finishings, from a jap company, before stepping into premium cars like bmw or a merc/audi. Sitting inside I feel like a boss although I’m just a salarymen 😞😞🤣🤣🤣. The drive I can’t say much cause supply shortage cause me no test drive car to chuck around. The mazda 3 will turn heads wherever you go, lol especially if in red color. Can’t miss it. That 5 years free service is tempting though.
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Mazda 3 is definitely out cause I don’t wanna have high maintenance. I always sit my colleague’s car Mazda 3, doesn’t seem to impress me much. Also I prefer smaller car cause I don’t really use the car much and smaller car means less fuel consumption too! Haha

I suspect Altis Will be the most comfortable as well, this is because of the suspension. Honda suspension is harder and Toyota is softer iirc, thus the comfort.

I haven’t gone out to test yet honestly but I just wanna see if anybody who’s been driving hybrid cars has any further comments or suggestions or not. Petrol cars are just that’s that? The maintenance is pretty simple and straight forward. But for hybrid? I mean, I really wonder how about the maintenance of the battery and will it just randomly and always face breaking down issues or not? I know I can use petrol too at the same time.. so yeah.
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QUOTE(shinichi88 @ Nov 26 2022, 06:24 PM)
If you plan to change car after 5years then don't opt for Hybrid.
The pricing increase for Hybrid vehicle compare to normal engine model does not really save your money.
Instead you're paying a lot more just to make you feel like you're saving fuel money.
On rough calculation, the price different for hybrid model equal to 6-7 years of fuel money.
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Ohh, how about the resell value of the car?
I don’t know if I will change car after 5 years? I plan to use longer than that. Car is not something that I change like changing clothes like some people. I don’t need it to show off, I just need it to last, and doesn’t give me much problems with proper maintenance and all. In the long run it should save money? Unless I always need to change its battery or fix the battery then it will not be cost saving.

This post has been edited by miyakochan89: Nov 26 2022, 07:09 PM
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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Nov 26 2022, 07:07 PM)
Mazda 3 is definitely out cause I don’t wanna have high maintenance. I always sit my colleague’s car Mazda 3, doesn’t seem to impress me much. Also I prefer smaller car cause I don’t really use the car much and smaller car means less fuel consumption too! Haha

I suspect Altis Will be the most comfortable as well, this is because of the suspension. Honda suspension is harder and Toyota is softer iirc, thus the comfort.

I haven’t gone out to test yet honestly but I just wanna see if anybody who’s been driving hybrid cars has any further comments or suggestions or not. Petrol cars are just that’s that? The maintenance is pretty simple and straight forward. But for hybrid? I mean, I really wonder how about the maintenance of the battery and will it just randomly and always face breaking down issues or not? I know I can use petrol too at the same time.. so yeah.
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i jelly your colleageue got a mazda 3 =(
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post Nov 26 2022, 07:56 PM

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this gen city hybrid not really worth as the price is way more expensive than ICE version, if same price (previous gen) i will go for hybrid.

The price of city hybrid top up a bit can get 1.5na HRV
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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ Nov 26 2022, 07:27 PM)
i  jelly  your colleageue got a mazda 3 =(
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I’m not really impressed of the car though. Lol.
And I know down the line it won’t be worth it.

QUOTE(claudetan @ Nov 26 2022, 07:56 PM)
this gen city hybrid not really worth as the price is way more expensive than ICE version, if same price (previous gen) i will go for hybrid.

The price of city hybrid top up a bit can get 1.5na HRV
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HRV is so expensive, and like I mentioned SUV is not my thing. I generally think that MY should follow Europe example and put high taxes for SUV and pick up trucks especially, less pollution.
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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Nov 26 2022, 02:09 PM)
Extra electronic? You mean the extra cost of electricity ?
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Extra electronic modules, extra parts and system compared to fully petrol counterparts.
Means more parts potential to spoilt and these parts your normal mechanics mostly wont be able to diagnose after warranty ends for the car.
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post Nov 26 2022, 10:40 PM

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At the moment, EV and Hybrid pricing point is not for calculative budget person to own.

Those are for early adopter that have plenty of cash to burn/spend.

If you're just looking for a long run car and less headache car,
just get T or H brand in petrol version.

Within your budget, go test drive and think which 1 you will prefer to drive/look in long run. Think about the interior too because you will spend a lot of time driving and looking at it. Test the car in high speed & low speed, and best to test it during raining too.
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buy d car u dont have. old city to new city
delivery wait how long nowdays aa
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post Nov 27 2022, 12:20 AM

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btw any hatchback variant, tyre road noise will enter from rear wheel well.
cannot avoid
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post Nov 27 2022, 01:00 AM

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At this moment in time, if you're not urgently need a car then you should wait for all new 2023 Vios(launched as Yaris ATIV in TH)

in youtube search THDM CAR REVIEW

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