git money to spend insist want buying car, pick the one u dont have before.
Help! Honda City Hatchback RS e:HEV or Toyota?, What's your verdict!
Help! Honda City Hatchback RS e:HEV or Toyota?, What's your verdict!
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Nov 28 2022, 12:28 PM
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git money to spend insist want buying car, pick the one u dont have before.
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Nov 28 2022, 12:29 PM
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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Nov 28 2022, 11:36 AM) I have absolutely zero interest in anything Perodua offer.They move people, that's just about it. Anything to do with driving enjoyment is completely out the window And all the driver assist (filling spec sheets) to me are mere gimmicks when even the basic braking systems leave a lot to be desired. (Very poor compared to their Proton counterparts) Their newer DNGA based vehicles may be a lot better, however they are all huge SUV and MPV which again, zero interest. This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Nov 28 2022, 12:29 PM |
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Nov 28 2022, 04:55 PM
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just buy the ORA good cat. go EV all the way, dont need to pay taxes, life's too short to just stick with ICE
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Nov 29 2022, 08:52 AM
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Nov 29 2022, 10:21 AM
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Nov 29 2022, 10:47 AM
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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ Nov 26 2022, 07:49 PM) Purely. Personal. Opinion. You want to know the magic? Just see the door panel how "thick" is it compared to others. My use case is cross bridge everyday in Penang for work and also balik kampong monthly. haha City EHEV Feels better to drive than the non ehev city Very big space in Bsegment. Honda always Duno how magic out space in their cars. I was abit hesitant on this cause I was thinking about battery health. I play RC stuffs, and number enemy of batteries is heat…. Malaysia = heat cempedaklife and IvanWong1989 liked this post
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Nov 29 2022, 10:57 AM
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Nov 29 2022, 10:59 AM
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Nov 28 2022, 12:18 PM) No amount of forumming can explain what is Electric instant torque feeling. The only thing similar is Diesel turbo when you mash the throttle, even then there is a split second quicker of instant-ness from Electric motor. I used to race RC car's competitively and I know what an electric motor rush is like compared to a gas powered engine. Thanks oh! I reckon that since my Honda is already 16 years old, even if I get city or vios now , it’s considered an Upgrade, let alone segment-c Altis! So, the only real way of doing this properly is going to the showroom or at least call for a test drive. And make sure the car is bloody charged up by having it sit in idle for a long time. The part with hybrids vs fossil fuel is that you may want to bet that petrol prices could increase to Rm4-6 per liter and at that time, it is very economically viable to own a hybrid. BUT this day may or may not come, and is very much under politically control and will. Personally I am for this, because I want to see petrol subsidy monies being used for infrastructure and education. But it is unlikely to happen. still, a bet is a bet. If eventually the government reduces the petrol subsidy, they can actually offset this with reduced hybrid tax. Of course it does not benefit the lower income group but perhaps it is a good way to wean us off fossil fuel dependency. But, if you are left with Altis, I say its a great upgrade from a 16 y.o City. I will upgrade based on safety rating alone, and its various active and passive safety features. Survivability is much higher in a new metal chassis. But I drive my whole family in that thing and really I think the feeling of safety is utmost importance for me. Likely you will spend a bit more petrol expense with it, or at least be prepared for it. It is very comfortable, and longevity wise it will probably last another decade, easily. With this contrasting condition, I may try and get a hybrid if the price is right - hence perhaps sticking with your current car is not too bad an idea, if you don't actually drive a lot. Yeah I think I should look into the Hybrid options, which leave me with City, City Hatchback, HR-V & Cross only at the moment. I really like the new HR-V, but my only qualms with qualms with HR-V is, it’s a waste of money for me since I most likely just buy and leave it in the parking, cause I don’t drive much. And all the expenses will definitely increase with SUV. It would be a splurge car just for the sake of splurging money. See how la! Hopefully there will be good news next year! This post has been edited by miyakochan89: Nov 29 2022, 11:02 AM |
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Nov 29 2022, 11:19 AM
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https://www.jpj.gov.my/en/web/main-site/ken...tion-guidelines
refer first pdf summary: 80 kilowatt (80,000w)below are less than rm100. 80kw onwards become incremental |
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Nov 29 2022, 12:21 PM
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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Nov 29 2022, 10:59 AM) since my Honda is already 16 years old, even if I get city or vios now , it’s considered an Upgrade, let alone segment-c Altis! considering this ya:Yeah I think I should look into the Hybrid options, which leave me with City, City Hatchback, HR-V & Cross only at the moment. it’s a waste of money for me since I most likely just buy and leave it in the parking, cause I don’t drive much. And all the expenses will definitely increase with SUV. It would be a splurge car just for the sake of splurging money. QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Nov 27 2022, 06:52 PM) they aren't much of an upgradeUMWT Altis is really short changed without dynamic force engine and there is simply a Civic sitting around that offers much better drive train and value as an all rounder car. B segments, you're just side grading sitting at same segment just renewing/refreshing your current vehicle. which isn't really needed considering your statements of: 1) the car is working fine no issues 2) you don't need a vehicle to show off 3) you seem calculative and/or financially sound and that boggles me on why hybrid when it's NOT financially sound AT ALL. now while i personally hate SUVs, i don't find your reasoning on SUV logical at all. because SUVs are much difference when it comes to expenses or maintenance. they aren't that much heavier than regular sedans, they don't exactly consume much more petrol than regular sedans. only maybe obvious difference when it comes to expenses and maintenance are tire and absorber replacements which, you don't exactly replace them every year either. considering your under utilization statement, you're probably only replacing the tires 4-6 years later, absorbers maybe never even until after you sell car since you're probably also not sensitive to ride & handling degradations. dares liked this post
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Nov 29 2022, 12:33 PM
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Nov 29 2022, 01:51 PM
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Nov 29 2022, 12:21 PM) considering this ya: Cause I like the sound. As in the car produces no noises. I mean there are, but it’s almost silent, unlike petrol cars. Hehe!they aren't much of an upgrade UMWT Altis is really short changed without dynamic force engine and there is simply a Civic sitting around that offers much better drive train and value as an all rounder car. B segments, you're just side grading sitting at same segment just renewing/refreshing your current vehicle. which isn't really needed considering your statements of: 1) the car is working fine no issues 2) you don't need a vehicle to show off 3) you seem calculative and/or financially sound and that boggles me on why hybrid when it's NOT financially sound AT ALL. now while i personally hate SUVs, i don't find your reasoning on SUV logical at all. because SUVs are much difference when it comes to expenses or maintenance. they aren't that much heavier than regular sedans, they don't exactly consume much more petrol than regular sedans. only maybe obvious difference when it comes to expenses and maintenance are tire and absorber replacements which, you don't exactly replace them every year either. considering your under utilization statement, you're probably only replacing the tires 4-6 years later, absorbers maybe never even until after you sell car since you're probably also not sensitive to ride & handling degradations. I’m careful with my finance planning, but once in a while I splurge too just for something I really like, as long as it’s within my capability. This post has been edited by miyakochan89: Nov 29 2022, 01:52 PM |
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Nov 29 2022, 01:58 PM
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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Nov 29 2022, 01:51 PM) Cause I like the sound. As in the car produces no noises. I mean there are, but it’s almost silent, unlike petrol cars. Hehe! Have you ever spent over 1 hour in a hybrid car in a traffic jam?I’m careful with my finance planning, but once in a while I splurge too just for something I really like. The amount of time meaningfully hybrid car can stay silent is kinda limited. When it start charging during idle (especially those with small 1.5L engine, it rev pretty hard during charging), it is very noisy and awkwardly odd. Hybrid shines when you are in mid/low speed 40-60km/h consistently. Traffic light/junction stop for 30-40 seconds, and start driving again. Long idle stop, and higher speed are both no ideal for hybrid. more2teayap, dares, and 1 other liked this post
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Nov 29 2022, 02:38 PM
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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Nov 29 2022, 01:51 PM) Cause I like the sound. As in the car produces no noises. I mean there are, but it’s almost silent, unlike petrol cars. Hehe! that is fair enough and sheds a lot more light on your requirement.I’m careful with my finance planning, but once in a while I splurge too just for something I really like, as long as it’s within my capability. considering this new information, you may want to avoid small b segment hybrids such as city hatch, and consider larger hybrids such as Civic eHEV. or potentially all out EV that does away with ICE completely. 2023 Toyota Prius has been launched and you can also hope and wait for UMWT to bring in. constant_weight liked this post
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Nov 29 2022, 02:44 PM
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Nov 29 2022, 03:47 PM
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QUOTE(constant_weight @ Nov 29 2022, 01:58 PM) Have you ever spent over 1 hour in a hybrid car in a traffic jam? No don’t have. Cause everyone around me is still using petrol cars.The amount of time meaningfully hybrid car can stay silent is kinda limited. When it start charging during idle (especially those with small 1.5L engine, it rev pretty hard during charging), it is very noisy and awkwardly odd. Hybrid shines when you are in mid/low speed 40-60km/h consistently. Traffic light/junction stop for 30-40 seconds, and start driving again. Long idle stop, and higher speed are both no ideal for hybrid. Quazacolt liked this post
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Nov 29 2022, 03:59 PM
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in Malaysia, buying car is not really a spur of the moment or an impulsive purchase, at least for me.
Representing almost 1 year of my nett pay, any car is a 10 year commitment. So I wouldn't do it on a whim, even if my car is already 16 years old..... I'd try to justify my financial goals vs getting a new car just for the sake of the enjoyment. |
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Nov 29 2022, 03:59 PM) in Malaysia, buying car is not really a spur of the moment or an impulsive purchase, at least for me. It isn’t an impulsive purchase for me either, if it was I would have changed my car long time ago. This has gone through careful considerations. So yes at the moment I do want to change, that’s why I’m seeking for options and suggestions and opinions. I will weigh the pros and cons or just stay with mine after all, and I will just save more money for something else.Representing almost 1 year of my nett pay, any car is a 10 year commitment. So I wouldn't do it on a whim, even if my car is already 16 years old..... I'd try to justify my financial goals vs getting a new car just for the sake of the enjoyment. It’s not a MUST change, but I’m comfortable enough to afford one among other things. cempedaklife liked this post
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Nov 29 2022, 06:13 PM
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Are you considering a used car?
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Nov 29 2022, 06:33 PM
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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Nov 29 2022, 05:51 PM) It isn’t an impulsive purchase for me either, if it was I would have changed my car long time ago. This has gone through careful considerations. So yes at the moment I do want to change, that’s why I’m seeking for options and suggestions and opinions. I will weigh the pros and cons or just stay with mine after all, and I will just save more money for something else. Maybe I misinterpret your indecision on which model as considering an impulse purchase. My apologies. If you are so open and wide as to what models to consider then I suggest NOT to discount the x50. In my mind, 50k - myvi. 70k Yaris, 100k x50 for small size, Alza for big size, 130k Civic or Corolla or Corolla cross hybrid. In my personal scenario I have 4, Myself, wife, teenagers x2It’s not a MUST change, but I’m comfortable enough to afford one among other things. |
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