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post May 27 2023, 08:44 AM

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QUOTE(Grape Seed X @ May 24 2023, 10:42 PM)
I have some puzzling questions regarding God’s Laws. I don't know which to follow! I'm confused  hmm.gif prophetjul unknownwarrior  icon_question.gif

The 10(18?) Commandments

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Hey! There appears to be 2 different sets of the 10 commandments? How come?! Yahweh suffering from dementia? ROFLMAO  laugh.gif

Either that, or Moses met an entirely different God when he went up Mt. Sinai the 2nd time around. Probably an agriculture deity instead of Yahweh  tongue.gif 

Something funny is going on here!
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Actually there is nothing wrong with God, but you. You are myopic.
The law is not just in Exodus 20. Read it all the way to Leviticus!
Did God write the other 603 commandements on the tablets? No

Exodus 34 is at another timeline.
God wrote again the 10 commandments on tablets in Ex34.

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Hew thee two tables of stone like unto the first: and I will write upon these tables the words that were in the first tables, which thou brakest.


And then He explained His COVENANT in more details. In dialogue, not hew upon the tablets.

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Behold, I make a covenant: before all thy people I will do marvels, such as have not been done in all the earth, nor in any nation: and all the people among which thou art shall see the work of the Lord:


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QUOTE(Grape Seed X @ May 27 2023, 03:57 PM)
Wrong! I'm not talking about the other 600+ so called Jewish laws! Read what I posted again!

And what about the verses that I posted?  Did you read the worse about God saying "write again' ?

You just pretended to not see them? Why?!

Simple, because in your mind, you keep thinking that the Bible is the inerrant Word of god! Therefore, you go through a milieu of mental gymnastics to hold on to your 'belief'. 

From the evidence presented, all quoted from scripture, the Bible HAS INDEED BEEN tampered with!
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And i am. You are myopic.
You did not talk about the other 603 commandments and yet you bring in the issues of

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The ermmm..... 10 commandments :

1. Don't make treaties with the Amorites, the Canaanites, the Hittites, the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites 
2. Don't make metal images of gods.
3. Don't fail to observe the Festival of Thin Bread in the month of Abib.[c] Obey me and eat bread without yeast for seven days.
4. The first-born males of your families and of your flocks and herds belong to me.
5. You can save the life of a first-born donkey[d] by sacrificing a lamb; if you don't, you must break the donkey's neck. You must save every first-born son. Bring an offering every time you come to worship.
6. Keep the Sabbath
7. Must worship Yahweh 3 times a year (compulsory)
8. When you sacrifice an animal on the altar, don't offer bread made with yeast. And don't save any part of the Passover meal for the next day.
9. I am the LORD your God, and you must bring the first part of your harvest to the place of worship.
10. Don't boil a young goat in its mother's milk. (very important!  biggrin.gif )


So you can do that but i can't. That is called hypocrisy. And selective hermeneutics. That is deception.
Did God write the ten commandments again? YES.
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Hew thee two tables of stone like unto the first: and I will write upon these tables the words that were in the first tables, which thou brakest.


And Moses did so.

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And he hewed two tables of stone like unto the first; and Moses rose up early in the morning, and went up unto mount Sinai, as the Lord had commanded him, and took in his hand the two tables of stone.


The rest is a dialogue.
End of.



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QUOTE(Grape Seed X @ May 27 2023, 03:53 PM)
I have been a Christian for over 4 decades. I'm a 2nd gen Christian. Dedicated as a baby, Sunday school, Youth service, basically the whole 9-yards of indoctrination.

My point is, that faith has nothing to do with this reasoning process.

Knowing is not believing.

Knowledge is about reason. While “belief is about faith.” The two are logically and psychologically utterly different and even incompatible.
This is what I know about faith: Faith has no method.

Faith cannot solve any problems. Faith cannot explain anything. Faith depends on mysteries. Faith can, and does lead to a denial of the evidence!

Faith is pretty much immune from debunking. Faith is rooted in fear and ignorance. With faith as a foundation, anything at all, can be believed or denied.

This runs counter to what solely be based on the strength of the evidence. Period.
Honestly, you can weed out the troublemakers, but I'm not one of them. I'm one of you!
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I think you didn't really understand my question. Going to church whether sunday service or youth service does not make one a Christian.

Being dedicated is one thing but you making a conscious decision to accept God as Lord and Saviour is whole other matter.

So................... have you?

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post May 27 2023, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(Grape Seed X @ May 27 2023, 03:53 PM)
I have been a Christian for over 4 decades. I'm a 2nd gen Christian. Dedicated as a baby, Sunday school, Youth service, basically the whole 9-yards of indoctrination.

My point is, that faith has nothing to do with this reasoning process.

Knowing is not believing.

Knowledge is about reason. While “belief is about faith.” The two are logically and psychologically utterly different and even incompatible.
This is what I know about faith: Faith has no method.

Faith cannot solve any problems. Faith cannot explain anything. Faith depends on mysteries. Faith can, and does lead to a denial of the evidence!

Faith is pretty much immune from debunking. Faith is rooted in fear and ignorance. With faith as a foundation, anything at all, can be believed or denied.

This runs counter to what solely be based on the strength of the evidence. Period.
Honestly, you can weed out the troublemakers, but I'm not one of them. I'm one of you!
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Are you born again onot ?

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QUOTE(Grape Seed X @ May 27 2023, 10:20 PM)
SNIP
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Bible did not specify what sort of wood was used in making of the Ark but it was a material that withstand pressure, water as many of ships built in those days even before the use or discovery of iron.

There is no problem is building of Ark, since God gave instruction as to how to build, therefore God is also the one ensuring the ship's integrity.

This is the character of God anyway.

At this point it is too obvious, you don't really know God.

You saying you're one of us and that you've been in youth, etc but you contradict yourself quite quickly without hiding.

I don't know why you are here. To dissuade our faith? I got news for you.

It's not working. At this point, we will no longer allow your posting. Sorry.

You have problem with Bible or with God, you can post in RWI.

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The continents during Noah's time were different. They aren't separated by earth's movement as to what we have today.

It's very possible during early time of creation it was just 1 continent, that is why all the animals could come into Noah's Ark.

It wasn't that the penguins needed to travel too far distances.

And people did not know it was God who brought them into the ark even though God told Noah to bring them in.

Genesis 7:. 8 - 9 (NIV) - Pairs of clean and unclean animals, of birds and of all creatures that move along the ground, male and female, came to Noah and entered the ark, as God had commanded Noah

The phrase "Came to Noah" tells us God is the one who brought them and since God is Almighty with all the powers, therefore it's not impossible for all of them to be there by God's power. Time, Space & Matter is never an issue for God.

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The blood of Jesus made you Holy

Hebrews 10:10 (NIV) - And by that will, we have been made holy through the sacrifice of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

I'm so glad for the new covenant. It is a covenant by Grace and technically you can also call it a covenant of God's Grace. A covenant based on goodness of God where it's all the I wills of God on your side.

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Hebrews 8

“The days are coming, declares the Lord,
when I will make a new covenant
with the people of Israel
and with the people of Judah.

9 It will not be like the covenant
I made with their ancestors
when I took them by the hand
to lead them out of Egypt,
because they did not remain faithful to my covenant,
and I turned away from them,
declares the Lord.

10 This is the covenant I will establish with the people of Israel
after that time, declares the Lord.
I will put my laws in their minds
and write them on their hearts.
I will be their God,
and they will be my people.

11 No longer will they teach their neighbor,
or say to one another, ‘Know the Lord,’
because they will all know me,
from the least of them to the greatest.

12 For I will forgive their wickedness
and will remember their sins no more.”

13 By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear.


It's a great contrast, instead of the first covenant "Thou shall not..." where it's based on Man's performances. Blessings if we are able to obey, cursings if disobey. Men's performance.

Very clearly Bible tells us this in

Hebrews 10:9 (NIV) - Then he said, “Here I am, I have come to do your will.” He sets aside the first to establish the second.

We are under the New Covenant of Grace folks.

The problem with some of us christians is that though we know we are under the new covenant but our mindset still "operate" under the old covenant. Tell me if this is not true?
You can do a test on this. When we sin, we feel disconnected with God or felt that God has hidden himself away from us. Whether we are in communion with God or out of fellowship with God, depends on us..what we do, whether we obey, disobey, sinned..performances.

See?

The new covenant is really about God's work in saving us. <=== Always hold to this truth.

Don't believe me? Read the entire Hebrews 10.

Yes I know there is this verse in Hebrews 10 verse 26;

"If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left,"

All sins are deliberate, let us establish this fact. Whether we like to hear that or not, it's the truth. So does it mean we are lost then with no hope since our sinning after conversion are willful or deliberate? Is that what verse 26 is saying?

There are 2 interpretations to verse 26.

1) To purposely reject New Covenant and go back to Old Covenant (Judaism)
2) To keep on purposely sinning without wanting to stop

Either interpretations if you match it in following verses 27 to 29; both can be correct. But point no. 1 holds stronger interpretation. Why? because of the phrase "...no sacrifice for sins is left".When Christ Jesus ascended back to God, the animal sacrifices were made redundant. There is only 1 legal sacrifice before God the Father , which the body of Christ. If you reject that, then there is really no more sacrifice left.

Without any sacrifice, you are left to your own devices. Problem is, ALL have sin and fallen short of God's glory. I'm sure you know what that means.
With that being said, doesn't mean point no. 2 is wrong ether. Point no. 2 stems from wrong understanding of gospel or the person was never saved in the 1st place.

Friend read verse (Hebrews 10) 16 to 25. Let that sink in. It's the New Covenant and we are called to live by faith. The new covenant is on God's work that save you, period. There can be no argument on this.

That is why we are call to live by faith in the Son of God, Jesus Christ. Even when we failed or fall, we are covered! Hebrews 10 uses language "once and for all". It is what it says there. There is no ambiguity.

If we are called to live to adhere to God's Law to be saved then the phrase once and for all (Hebrews 10:10) cannot be true. Nobody can perfectly keep God's law to be saved. That is a fact, naturally and spiritually.

Friend, if you have just recently sinned and you feel not at home, feel not at ease, it's a sure sign you are saved.

Breath Easy. The blood of Jesus Christ 24/7 keeps you. Learn to keep on coming to God in prayer and communion. Be repented in your mind, it's the finish work of Christ that has saved you, not your obedience to God's Law.

Your part is to keep believing and don't give up. (Hebrews 10:38).

You know Hebrews 10:39 says what it is.....those who have faith = saved!

As long as you stay connected with God, the Holy Spirit has an opening and chance to change you from within. If you keep staying away from God, how can you have the chance to be changed and transformed by God?

Think deeply on this question.

God Bless.


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QUOTE(prophetjul @ May 27 2023, 04:18 PM)
And i am. You are myopic.
You did not talk about the other 603 commandments and yet you bring in the issues of
So you can do that but i can't. That is called hypocrisy. And selective hermeneutics. That is deception.
Did God write the ten commandments again? YES.
And Moses did so.
The rest is a dialogue.
End of.
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QUOTE(Grape Seed X @ May 25 2023, 10:44 PM)
Hi bro RC,

Protestantism.....& some low life here reported 3 of my posts in this thread. Don't hide, show yourself.
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ May 27 2023, 04:39 PM)
I think you didn't really understand my question. Going to church whether sunday service or youth service does not make one a Christian.

Being dedicated is one thing but you making a conscious decision to accept God as Lord and Saviour is whole other matter.

So................... have you?
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ May 27 2023, 05:13 PM)
Are you born again onot ?
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have u all been vaccinated ?

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QUOTE(tankerbell12345 @ Jun 9 2023, 06:56 PM)
have u all been vaccinated ?
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Yes, vaccinated under duress. Anything ?
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Jun 9 2023, 08:34 PM)
Yes, vaccinated under duress. Anything ?
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just wana point out the hypocrisy here . Once u are vaccinated you are no more gods servant anymore.










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QUOTE(tankerbell12345 @ Jun 9 2023, 08:43 PM)
just wana point out the hypocrisy here . Once u  are vaccinated  you are no more gods servant anymore.
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Ya ke ? I had no idea la. Mana u dapat ilmu ini ?
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Jun 9 2023, 08:45 PM)
Ya ke ? I had no idea la. Mana u dapat ilmu ini ?
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u know what is the real covid 19 disease ?

the disease comes from lies which spread through online media and human interaction and if u submit to the lies and deception, you are part of the evil forces.

no more gods servant.







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QUOTE(tankerbell12345 @ Jun 9 2023, 08:52 PM)
u know what is the real covid 19 disease ?

the disease comes from lies which spread through online media and human interaction and if u submit to the lies and deception, you are part of the evil forces.

no more gods servant.
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Thank goodness that I am born again and I can smell out any liar. Not to blow my own trumpet, but God's own trumpet, when liars started to come to this thread, Unknown Warrior was warned about it, but he is just too kind and didn't want to assume the worst in those liars. Actually I had set a trap for those liars but Unknown Warrior had accidentally and unknowingly sprung it, it's ok, even if I didn't expose the liars, I am sure Unknown Warrior would have done so under the guidance of the Holy Spirit. I had fought the Devil before, so the internet is nothing.

My submission is only to my Lord Jesus Christ and no one else.

Up to you la to think whatever, no more God's servant ke, I will continue to do my Father's will in heaven, for nothing fazes me anymore, as long I remain in Him.

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QUOTE(tankerbell12345 @ Jun 9 2023, 08:43 PM)
just wana point out the hypocrisy here . Once u  are vaccinated  you are no more gods servant anymore.
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What hypocrisy? rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jun 9 2023, 09:44 PM)
What hypocrisy?  rolleyes.gif
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uncle ur not a hypocrite ? good for you






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