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 Automatic Gate, How much do you need to install one ?

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weikee
post Dec 21 2011, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Dec 21 2011, 09:31 PM)
Most key maker will be able to do that. Don't know how much it will cost
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Don't know about 4 button, but 2 button I got it from lelong. http://www.lelong.com.my/universal-remote-...7-01-Sale-I.htm

If you are using code hopping, remote will be more expensive. Do check with the seller.
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post Dec 22 2011, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(numbertwo @ Dec 22 2011, 12:04 PM)
Yeah..a key maker quoted me 50 for one , but I guess he refers to 2 buttons as I forgot to tell him mine is 4...

Thanks guys..
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I got like 4 spare remote biggrin.gif Last time Lelong seller got promotion, brought many and it use as spare now. Is so much cheaper than asking the key maker to duplicate. Some charging RM 80 for a dip switch duplicate.
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post Dec 22 2011, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(phoenix69 @ Dec 22 2011, 12:24 PM)
Hey guys. What is the diffrence between 2 button remote and those more than 2.?
Does it mean that those remote that has more button can do 1 side gate open whereas the 2 button remote cannot ah? blink.gif
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I think depend what is configure. Mine only 2 button, with one to open the right door only, another to open both.

Maybe the other 2 are for opening the Left door and pillar light.
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post Dec 22 2011, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(jutamind @ Dec 22 2011, 12:30 PM)
if you just buy hardware from lelong, how do u program the remote that you bought? i know there r dip switch inside the remote, but i remember that we need to tune the frequency for the remote as well using the special device?
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Usually no need to tune, mostly run on the same frequency, if you need there a screw to tune it too. Most autogate is all dip switch. Another type is copying, you press the new remote, and old remote together, it will copy the code over.

Unless you are using more secure type, with code hopping, Which I am not sure how on autogate. But for car I got few spare too smile.gif

For my case, My mother and my house I only use one remote. Carry less remote.


Added on December 22, 2011, 12:41 pmHere some example of code hopping, it can be dup too.
http://szyet.en.alibaba.com/product/440749...rol_YET004.html

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post Feb 7 2012, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(lowlowc @ Feb 7 2012, 10:44 PM)
May I know what's the price for auto gate motor and cabeling for the brand Celmer? My autogate got problem just after installing for 2 weeks (alignment haywire and insensitive remote control) and I wonder if I was given an inferior brand. My neighbour installed their autogate for cheaper price and no problem at all with their autogate.
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How much the total installation? Most likely is installer problem.
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post Feb 7 2012, 11:35 PM

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QUOTE(lowlowc @ Feb 7 2012, 11:22 PM)
RM1800, just the motor and cabels.
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If the cables include installation than is cheap. Hacking and installing armor cable can be from 400 to 1k depend on site.

What is the brand? You should call back the installer and check.
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post Feb 8 2012, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(lowlowc @ Feb 7 2012, 11:50 PM)
The brand is Celmer. Yeah, install cable from switch inside my house to the gate pillar. Use back my old gate without doing the bearing.

My neighbour did for RM1700 and include bearing. I don't mind the fact that I pay more than my neighbours but I'm starting to wonder whether I'm paying the price for what I get? Or I was over quote?

So far, comparing theirs to mine, I noticed their gate open and close quite smoothly, remote can be sensed from far. Mine : open and close very slow and now left hand side became slower so currently looks very imbalance. When I press my remote to 'open' then try to press again to 'stop', the gate don't respond to stop immediately. Need to press one more time, only it will respond.  rclxub.gif
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You need to have bearing, if not the gate will not close or open smooth (especially when gate is heavy) Better ask the installer come and check.

How is your remote look like? I have 7 remote with me smile.gif, 4 are dip switch, 3 are copy. The copy type will respond slower.

Don't compare price. We can always find cheaper after we brought the things.
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post Feb 8 2012, 12:10 AM

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Think it come with 3.

I am setting it identical to my mom house, so I use one remote for 2 houses. Previously, my mom house I brought some extra remote @ Lelong. That is how I have so many now smile.gif

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post Feb 8 2012, 06:12 PM

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Come with normal or code hopping remotes?
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post Feb 9 2012, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Feb 9 2012, 09:02 AM)
Are you using the type of auto gate in which the motors are concealed underground? If I recall correctly, I have come across recently that it cost less than RM900 include installation; but exclude the amour cabling from the house to the gate pillar. As this system is underground, they are prone to water seepage due to hardening of the rubber seals. Thus damaging the motor. On top of that, there is the problem with hydraulic leakages. Following these reoccurring problems, many suppliers are reluctant to supply these system to avoid complains from house owners.
I was using this system in my previous house and was having problem in getting replacement parts.
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The submerge system is ok lah. Not too bad. My In-Law house been using for > 10 years. Only recently got problem not because of the motor but because the gate now offset already. Maybe due to faulty bearing.

If you see some submerge installer actually raid 1/2" up so water won't go in easy. And use proper O ring can last very very long. I was quote more expensive for submerge because it need to dig bigger hole.


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QUOTE(lowlowc @ Feb 9 2012, 08:27 AM)
How to say.. the simple 2 button type. One for opening one side only, another to open two side. Press back the same button to stop and to close back.

Not trying to compare price.. but very sakit hati when you see the door doesn't operated as good as you want. Just need to know.. am I paying the correct price for Celmer autogate? If yes, then I accept the fact and ask the ppl to come again and adjust.
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Not sure if Celmer local or imported. Ask them come and check again.

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post Feb 9 2012, 04:20 PM

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Price look good. Never really check DC motor price. Only got one quote some months back, but never want to use it. Don't want a bulk box on the wall.
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post Feb 9 2012, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(netcrawler @ Feb 9 2012, 09:46 PM)
Weikee,
Which one you recommended for autogate? What is the price range and reliability.
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I use local arm type, brand is OAE. Reliable or not.. not sure still running after 2+ months. Some gates due to size and weight may need difference specification.
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post Feb 15 2012, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(leeyung @ Feb 15 2012, 10:47 PM)
is my time to go for autogate biggrin.gif after read some review from several website, found few comments but which are relatively low

http://www.planetmy.com/blog/auto-gate-problem-again/
Mentioning problem for OAE autogate and giving some good feedback regarding DCMoto brand.

Anyway, for those who are looking for product Brochure for autogate (ignore the price as in the website), just wish to have a look on the spec, you may go to the site below, quite informative
http://autogatemalaysia.blogspot.com/
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If you read the comment further, problem come from installer and controller board. OAE and many other arm are reliable, but the installer and control unit is the main cause.
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post Feb 15 2012, 11:05 PM

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I am also using it for coming to 3 months.
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post Feb 15 2012, 11:41 PM

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So far this is 2nd house using autogate. My Mom house using sliding gate, have been running good, problem we faced mainly our fault. Gate was not fully open and we reversed out, damage the sensor. Still fixable.

my current house, normal swing type. So far ok.

Why water seeepage got to do with Autogate? I don't see how it cause this in autogate.

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post Feb 16 2012, 12:01 AM

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You not using submerged system right?
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post Feb 16 2012, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(leeyung @ Feb 16 2012, 12:10 AM)
before this think of submerged, after considering the seepage of water issue, then plan to go for the swing arm system (exposed one)
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I don't think seepage is an issue. My in-law house using submerged type for so many years without problem. Think it come with a casing and it should be water proof too.
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post Feb 16 2012, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(leeyung @ Feb 16 2012, 11:21 AM)
because I read from here the last section, the typical underground arm motor flooded due to seepage of water after several years.
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I think you worry too much. Sometime considering too many factor will make you not want to do what you want.
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post Feb 17 2012, 09:47 AM

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Arm type is cheaper smile.gif easy troubleshoot too.
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Anything will breakdown, no matter how reliable and quality, it will break down one day. Even human will fall sick. And power failure do happen.

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