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post May 29 2024, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(Gratitude2022 @ May 26 2024, 04:28 PM)
Any reliable Alza workshop in PJ? My Alza mileage is very bad. RM 50 can travel 150km to max 200km. I suspect oxygen sensor rosak but they say no check engine light means no problem. Any workshop that I can send to check? Thanks.
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No warning light does not mean the sensor is still okay. Suggest to take out the sensor, clean it as the first step.
If have good obd sensor, can check the sensor working chart.. eventhough it still function but maybe not full working condition, there will be no error code. There should be a way to also test the sensor using multimeter. check out xxxtube. Hope this helps.


QUOTE(LostAndFound @ May 26 2024, 05:48 PM)
Anyone had to change battery so far? Today morning car refuse to start, after jump start and drive a bit on highway seems okay.
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how many years dah? suggest go to check/test the CCA on the battery first, top up battery water if needed, go for a drive like 30mins then test cca. New battery should be 360 if not wrong. if below 70% (about 250-260), it wont start. Then no choice to change battery already. just my view unless want to try the 'magic' battery water.



QUOTE(sl!mer @ May 29 2024, 09:54 AM)
Anyone had this problem with 1st gen alza
when raining time drive through water patch battery light or AT will appear.
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My previous 13yo Alza don't have this problem. suggest to check the error code first. suspecting the AT/gearbox sensor.
Check the socket first to see if possible crack socket or loosen. Clean it and plug back, ensuring the rubber seal in socket still okay as water sips in.

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so sorry, double post again.. my bad. I need to change my mouse already.

This post has been edited by Kiefer: May 29 2024, 12:14 PM
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post May 29 2024, 01:21 PM

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Noted. will check on socket
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post May 29 2024, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(cdspins @ May 27 2024, 09:52 AM)
How long since your battery in operation? Easiest way is to do a battery health check. The mechanic then can advice if need to change or still can use.
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QUOTE(Kiefer @ May 29 2024, 11:20 AM)
how many years dah?  suggest go to check/test the CCA on the battery first, top up battery water if needed, go for a drive like 30mins then test cca.  New battery should be 360 if not wrong.  if below 70% (about 250-260), it wont start.  Then no choice to change battery already.  just my view unless want to try the 'magic' battery water.
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Still the original battery with the car delivery July 2022. Decided to just change, all the warning lights seem to have gone away (fingers crossed).
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post May 30 2024, 01:21 AM

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QUOTE(LostAndFound @ May 29 2024, 03:47 PM)
Still the original battery with the car delivery July 2022. Decided to just change, all the warning lights seem to have gone away (fingers crossed).
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Ok lah, about 2 years liao...within expected batter life range cool2.gif
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post May 30 2024, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(LostAndFound @ May 29 2024, 03:47 PM)
Still the original battery with the car delivery July 2022. Decided to just change, all the warning lights seem to have gone away (fingers crossed).
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okay la 2 years. you using the auto-idle / eco-idle thing?
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QUOTE(Kiefer @ May 30 2024, 09:19 AM)
okay la 2 years.  you using the auto-idle / eco-idle thing?
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Yes I am (which definitely contributes to lower battery life). For me, if turn that off and spend more on petrol, probably will cost more than the battery replacement cost over time?
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post May 31 2024, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(LostAndFound @ May 30 2024, 09:21 PM)
Yes I am (which definitely contributes to lower battery life). For me, if turn that off and spend more on petrol, probably will cost more than the battery replacement cost over time?
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I think 2 years is OK, it is well within range, if not using auto idle, probably last 6 more months or 1 year longer... but that is just too much variations for the cost calculation.
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post May 31 2024, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(LostAndFound @ May 30 2024, 09:21 PM)
Yes I am (which definitely contributes to lower battery life). For me, if turn that off and spend more on petrol, probably will cost more than the battery replacement cost over time?
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Very good question !! I think depends on how each driver use and also think.. hehehe

I just did a quick google as reference.. it is about 1.2liter fuel used per hour during idle. If 1 month the idle off for 1 hour total, we saved 1.2L.. that is RM2.46 (RM2.05 * 1.2) saving on fuel.
so 2 years RM2.46 x 24 mths, that is RM59.04 saved.

If don't use eco-idle, et's say the battery life is 3 years, then no fuel saving on idle. Our battery costs about RM300 for eco-idle.

Let's say we put 6 years owning the Alza:

1. with Eco-idle:
a. 6 years fuel saving total RM177.12.
b. changing 3 times battery, hence spending RM900.
c. RM900 - RM177.12 = RM722.88.


2. without eco-idle:
a. 6 years fuel saving total = RM0
b. changing 2 times battery, hence spending RM600
c. RM600 - RM0 = RM600


With the above 2 scenarios over 6 years, then without eco-idle is better. If the price of petrol up, then result will be different.

Just my view and may not be the right one to look at. Please do give your view too as I dont know if my way of view is correct. just something to 'korek' our heads.

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actually use eco can tahan 3yr plus. original gs brand battery
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post Jun 1 2024, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Jun 1 2024, 12:26 PM)
actually use eco can tahan 3yr plus. original gs brand battery
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shld be for original first battery. but kena jaga battery level also.
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QUOTE(Kiefer @ May 31 2024, 01:15 PM)
Very good question !!  I think depends on how each driver use and also think.. hehehe

I just did a quick google as reference.. it is about 1.2liter fuel used per hour during idle.  If 1 month the idle off for 1 hour total, we saved 1.2L.. that is RM2.46 (RM2.05 * 1.2) saving on fuel.
so 2 years RM2.46 x 24 mths, that is RM59.04 saved.

If don't use eco-idle, et's say the battery life is 3 years, then no fuel saving on idle.  Our battery costs about RM300 for eco-idle.

Let's say we put 6 years owning the Alza:

1.  with Eco-idle:
    a.  6 years fuel saving total RM177.12.
    b.  changing 3 times battery, hence spending RM900.
    c.  RM900 - RM177.12 = RM722.88.
2. without eco-idle:
    a. 6 years fuel saving total = RM0
    b. changing 2 times battery, hence spending RM600
    c.  RM600 - RM0 = RM600
With the above 2 scenarios over 6 years, then without eco-idle is better.  If the price of petrol up, then result will be different.

Just my view and may not be the right one to look at.  Please do give your view too as I dont know if my way of view is correct. just something to 'korek' our heads.
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If calculate purely on Fuel price, eco idle is to no benefit at all because Malaysia fuel price is too cheap. But maybe soon this will all change with no more subsidy.
For those who use eco idle, a pat on the back for being environmental friendly.
Another thing is that with eco idle, maybe you slightly reduce engine wear and tear as well, but it will not reflect on your service cost as service is by mileage.
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After using my new Alza AV for a few months, I have a few items that I like to seek fellow Alza owners for advice & comments:

Door Auto-unlock Function
I understand that there is door auto-unlock functions (settings to switch between gear shift position linked auto-unlock of doors, engine switch-off linked auto-unlock of doors or disable function). I like to set to engine switch-off linked auto-unlock of doors but the service rep of Perodua said not possible to set this up. Anyone has any experience in this?

Heads-up Display Function
I discovered on my car that frequently (but still unable to ascertain under what specific conditions) if I shift to reverse very shortly after I have started the car, the reverse camera will come on for a short while then disappear. So, I ended up having to shift out of reverse and shift back to reverse to get the reverse camera. Anyone has such experience? Is this just the Heads-up Display unit taking too slow to fully start up? My previous car (7 years old Nissan XTrail) has no such issue, and the HU display seems to be a lot more responsive than Alza's (hence my suspicion this issue is due to slow start up).

2nd Row Seatback Adjustment Lever
My 2nd row seatback adjustment levers (to fold up the 2nd row seat to access to 3rd row seats) are very stiff. Any suggestion where I can apply some silicon or WD40 to lubricate to reduce the difficulties in folding the seat?

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post Jun 1 2024, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(QQQ133 @ Jun 1 2024, 08:00 PM)
After using my new Alza AV for a few months, I have a few items that I like to seek fellow Alza owners for advice & comments:

Door Auto-unlock Function
I understand that there is door auto-unlock functions (settings to switch between gear shift position linked auto-unlock of doors, engine switch-off linked auto-unlock of doors or disable function). I like to set to engine switch-off linked auto-unlock of doors but the service rep of Perodua said not possible to set this up. Anyone has any experience in this?

Heads-up Display Function
I discovered on my car that frequently (but still unable to ascertain under what specific conditions) if I shift to reverse very shortly after I have started the car, the reverse camera will come on for a short while then disappear. So, I ended up having to shift out of reverse and shift back to reverse to get the reverse camera. Anyone has such experience? Is this just the Heads-up Display unit taking too slow to fully start up? My previous car (7 years old Nissan XTrail) has no such issue, and the HU display seems to be a lot more responsive than Alza's (hence my suspicion this issue is due to slow start up).

2nd Row Seatback Adjustment Lever
My 2nd row seatback adjustment levers (to fold up the 2nd row seat to access to 3rd row seats) are very stiff. Any suggestion where I can apply some silicon or WD40 to lubricate to reduce the difficulties in folding the seat?

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For auto-unlocking when ignition off, can. See owners manual page 2-45.

For 2nd row seat, not sure when you said stiff.. you mean the lever on the side that trigger folding up? maybe a quick video to show us.. else, you go to showroom, if got test car, try it if it is easy.. then tell SC in next service. If you spray WD40.. nanti drips out to carpet or seat lagi jialat. My one okay ah no issue.
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QUOTE(Kiefer @ Jun 1 2024, 11:12 PM)
For auto-unlocking when ignition off, can.  See owners manual page 2-45.

For 2nd row seat, not sure when you said stiff.. you mean the lever on the side that trigger folding up?  maybe a quick video to show us.. else, you go to showroom, if got test car, try it if it is easy.. then tell SC in next service.  If you spray WD40.. nanti drips out to carpet or seat lagi jialat.  My one okay ah no issue.
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Thanks for your help, managed to set up the auto-unlock.

The 2nd row seat = you are right, I meant the lever on the side of the seat that you need to press forward to release the seat for folding. I remember checking with the Service Rep during my first service & he said nothing can be done, it will be less stiff after use. But, so far, I am still having great difficulty to press the lever forward enough to release the seat. You know, when you have kids rushing to either get in or out of the 3rd row seats, such stiffness creates pressures on me biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(QQQ133 @ Jun 3 2024, 09:20 PM)
Thanks for your help, managed to set up the auto-unlock.

The 2nd row seat = you are right, I meant the lever on the side of the seat that you need to press forward to release the seat for folding. I remember checking with the Service Rep during my first service & he said nothing can be done, it will be less stiff after use. But, so far, I am still having great difficulty to press the lever forward enough to release the seat. You know, when you have kids rushing to either get in or out of the 3rd row seats, such stiffness creates pressures on me biggrin.gif
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Do u feel the 2nd row seat got spring noise when someone sit on it
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Just curious how many km/l you guys got for your Alza. I'm getting about 14 to 14.5km/l on mix city highway drive
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QUOTE(cdspins @ Jul 4 2024, 12:28 AM)
Just curious how many km/l you guys got for your Alza. I'm getting about 14 to 14.5km/l on mix city highway drive
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I am getting around 14-15+ on mix city hiway drive. If pure hiway for that day, getting about 18-20+, about 21-22 if using eco mode.
When purely in town drive getting about 12+ only.

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QUOTE(Kiefer @ Jul 4 2024, 09:51 AM)
I am getting around 14-15+ on mix city hiway drive.  If pure hiway for that day, getting about 18-20+, about 21-22 if using eco mode.
When purely in town drive getting about 12+ only.
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Wow... you have a feather feet. tongue.gif city highway mix can get 15+
Need to improve on my pedaling so that have better fuel consumption cool2.gif

Even on all highway, I only reach 16...
By the way, you drive 110 speed, right, or keep at 80km/h?
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QUOTE(cdspins @ Jul 4 2024, 11:37 AM)
Wow... you have a feather feet.  tongue.gif city highway mix can get 15+
Need to improve on my pedaling so that have better fuel consumption  cool2.gif

Even on all highway, I only reach 16...
By the  way, you drive 110 speed, right, or keep at 80km/h?
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mix hiway seremban - PJ - Seremban, more like a day trip to PJ.. if drive gently.. can get.

on hiway, i trying best to keep follow max speed limit, potong if need be which needed be. 110 average i would say. if i lenjak a bit at certain stretch, it will go down to 16-17.
just keep steady and drive safe. :>


BTW, just DIY changed CVT filter and CVT lube last week. 3L total. 40k mileage. Last changed was at 20k (just CVT oil). Dont wait till 100k mileage.

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