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Mai189
post Jun 27 2023, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(Mai189 @ Oct 23 2022, 09:54 PM)
Fyi, the basic GMRLS guided rockets have a range of >70km.

The basic guided rocket has been successfully tested to range of 92km: https://www.army-technology.com/news/news69339-html/

However, the US army was able to use it and surgically strike targets with precision at around >105km in Afghanistan.

This means that is its actual range is more >100km.

In Ukraine, it has been routinely used to strike targets at more than >100km.



P.S: Russian defence manufacturers tend to overstate capabilities. Western defence manufacturers do the opposite.

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In SEA and Oceania, Himars has been bought by Singapore and recently Australia.

Info from open source is limited. As shared previously, Singapore has bought more than >108 launch pods. This was declassified by Lockheed Martin (until 2016 only). This would mean that Singapore has at least 54 Himars launchers (until 2016). One launcher + one supply vehicle generally (although the US army may use 2 supply vehicles per launcher.).

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Link for above: https://apps.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/1019443.pdf

I dont have numbers post 2016.

I note that newly built GMRLS rockets are largely the ER versions with range in excess of >150km. These were purchased by Australia recently. If Sg bought new GMLRS rockets recently, it is likely these will be the newer ER versions.

Australian Himars:
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/special-re...061331d10fd4799
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Also note that US and generally Western weapon makers tend to under declare range and utility as opposed to perhaps the Russians. See above^
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post Jun 27 2023, 11:32 AM

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US granted sinkies higher exemption threshold from contract reporting. Thats why many years sinkie buy below threshold for gmlrs. yes they also participated in gmlrs+ which I think tested range to at least 120km.
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post Jun 28 2023, 07:37 PM

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Mai189
post Jun 28 2023, 09:35 PM

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US granted sinkies higher exemption threshold from contract reporting. Thats why many years sinkie buy below threshold for gmlrs. yes they also participated in gmlrs+ which I think tested range to at least 120km.
Sg is the US "only" major security cooperation partner.

Basically the US has been offering major US ally "plus" status to Sg (higher than the US ally status with say Thailand or Pakistan) and one rung below a treaty alliance.

Sg repeatedly turned it down as Sg is officially is neutral and wants to be a bridge between China and US.

Instead the US and Sg worked out the Security Framework Agreement - all or most of the military advantages US treaty allies get but minus the diplomatic mess. Hence the moniker - US major security partner. The only one in the world.

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KLthinker91
post Jun 28 2023, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(Mai189 @ Jun 28 2023, 09:35 PM)
Sg is the US "only" major security cooperation partner.

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Hence the moniker - US major security partner. The only one in the world.
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Lol
You think you have a more special relationship than THE Special Relationship?
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jun 20 2023, 06:26 PM)
Pipul be shitting on Russia taking out its T-62 out of storage while the M60 is still being used in active duty all this time.

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so Russia is on a level with Turkey only lah
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post Jun 28 2023, 10:17 PM

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names are only words. treaties are only paper. reality like ukraine is that if someone want to intervene, no need name nor paper.

https://www.state.gov/u-s-security-cooperat...with-singapore/

US$8.38b in active fms, US$26.3b in dcs export approvals between 2019-2021. those are numbers that count.
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post Jun 28 2023, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(takbodoh722 @ Jun 28 2023, 10:17 PM)
names are only words. treaties are only paper. reality like ukraine is that if someone want to intervene, no need name nor paper.

https://www.state.gov/u-s-security-cooperat...with-singapore/

US$8.38b in active fms, US$26.3b in dcs export approvals between 2019-2021. those are numbers that count.
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Indeed esp. if you see the scenarios they jointly train under.

I have not followed up on the sums. Thks for sharing. Thats relatively a lot.

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From 2019 through 2021, the United States authorized the permanent export of over $26.3 billion in defense articles to Singapore via Direct Commercial Sales (DCS). The top categories of DCS to Singapore are aircraft parts and components, gas turbine engines, and military electronics.


Interesting. Additional F35s?
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https://www.snafu-solomon.com/2023/06/kf-21...-appear-to.html

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KF-21 Boramae 6th prototype maiden flight.


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QUOTE(azriel @ Jun 29 2023, 07:02 AM)

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not sure it counts as fully 5th gen but this is certainly the lowest RCS 4.5th gen aircraft I think
any official word on RCS?
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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Jun 29 2023, 12:35 PM)
not sure it counts as fully 5th gen but this is certainly the lowest RCS 4.5th gen aircraft I think
any official word on RCS?
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RCS is one thing

Sensor fusion is another.
The F35 is the only jet on the world which have it until the GCAP & NGAD comes online.
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QUOTE(darth5zaft @ Jun 29 2023, 11:44 PM)
RCS is one thing

Sensor fusion is another.
The F35 is the only jet on the world which have it until the GCAP & NGAD comes online.
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That is why it is classed as a 5th Gen aircraft - one of key attributes of 5th Gen is the sensor fusion.



Fresh from the oven^

I am keen to know about Raytheon's DAS which replaces the original one by Northrop Grumman and in order of magnitudes better than Northrop's.

This is the older Northrop's variant:



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post Jul 1 2023, 06:13 PM

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In other news - SG's F16Vs are now using the Python 5 and EL/L-8212 ECM pod:

https://aviationweek.com/defense-space/miss...6-mlu-no-aim-9x









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post Jul 1 2023, 06:21 PM

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Python 5, apart from being a 360 degrees full-sphere missile, can rely not just on the plane's sensors or the missile's sensors but that of the full battle network of sensors and shooters e.g. AEW&C aircraft:


https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news-det...global-link-sdr

Derby (no longer in production), Derby-ER and Derby-LR should have the same capability as well.

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