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 Jobs exceed RM15k pay in doesn't exist in Msia, Makan gaji cannot go beyond RM15k

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knumskul
post May 30 2022, 07:35 PM

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TS really katak dibawah tempurung.

I have 3 close friends earning >15k and not even in IT industry, director level, nor daddykasi cable.
1 of them from B40 background during school years.
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post May 30 2022, 08:59 PM

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Anyhow, there are plenty of civil engineers and architects are underpaid in Malaysia

So I guess is really dependent on industry and your luck
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post May 31 2022, 02:28 AM

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Branch managers easily 15k
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post May 31 2022, 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(Mavik @ May 30 2022, 10:35 AM)
You probably need to check out - https://www.instagram.com/malaysianpaygap/

If you want to see even more data - https://datastudio.google.com/u/0/reporting...ge/p_y00cuqsxsc

I know sometimes it is difficult to believe what people might say in forums but here are some data collected.

If you filter the dashboard to more than RM15k, you can see 274 submissions.

Total submissions at this point in time is 4572.

This makes the population in that database to be 6% earning more than RM15k.
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Great sharing, but the question is how true and is anyone validate those data?? Congrats to those 6% of people who achieve >RM15k pay?

Many people just said who and who making this and that... but how sure are you they're just try to show off? Please delight me if you're one of the Elite.

Pretty sad huh? A junior guy in SG can earn 5k and make more or same than those Malaysia senior manager with >10 yrs experience.

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post May 31 2022, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(carboost @ May 31 2022, 08:13 PM)
Great sharing, but the question is how true and is anyone validate those data?? Congrats to those 6% of people who achieve >RM15k pay?

Many people just said who and who making this and that... but how sure are you they're just try to show off? Please delight me if you're one of the Elite.

Pretty sad huh? A junior guy in SG can earn 5k and make more or same than those Malaysia senior manager with >10 yrs experience.
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You can download from headhunter salary survey as well:
https://www.hays.com.my/salary-guide

If you want further benchmark, can check robert Walters and Kelly. You can see rm15k is quite normal for many experienced skillful roles.

You do know the concept of foreign currency? If that's the case a Singaporean worker will always earn lesser than its UK and US counterpart? You do know the concept of purchasing power parity as well? SG is highly competitive as they have expats as well competing with their citizens there. You see plenty of SG citizens working at fields that mys will scoff at such as at food court centers, dockyard and hotel services. In MYS, most of these are outsourced to South Asians. Just go and see their national zoo workers.

I see no reason/ purpose to show off. Again I can't see what are you trying to achieve here. Are you:
1) Looking to get into the RM15k club but you not there yet and want to know how? Get promoted/ change company. Cannot find opportunity? Keep searching and network. Plenty of people fail before they get to where they want to go. Everyone wants the glamour of a CEO, not everybody willing to have a meeting at 11pm on a Saturday night though or sleep at production plant during crunch time.

2) You are not in the RM15k club and you are unclear why people are paid such high salary? I can recommend few books/ articles but in summary you create value, you will get paid. You can create value by work hard, smart, cheat, manipulate, hustle, ...etc.

3) You are not in the RM15k club and you are frustrated and unwilling to work to get there. Feel free to find articles to support your mental well being at bored panda whichever makes you feel better.


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post May 31 2022, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(carboost @ May 31 2022, 08:13 PM)
Great sharing, but the question is how true and is anyone validate those data?? Congrats to those 6% of people who achieve >RM15k pay?

Many people just said who and who making this and that... but how sure are you they're just try to show off? Please delight me if you're one of the Elite.

Pretty sad huh? A junior guy in SG can earn 5k and make more or same than those Malaysia senior manager with >10 yrs experience.
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Our currency small, thats why covenrt to sgd or usd it looks small.
But if you earn 15k in usd or sgd ofc convert back to myr big lah
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post May 31 2022, 10:13 PM

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post May 31 2022, 10:46 PM

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https://loanstreet.com.my/learning-centre/m...ion-b40-m40-t20

actually Malaysia Gini coefficient is damn high, that's the truth also

if you earn more than 11k, then you are in the nationwide T20 classification, while in WPKL, you need to earn at least 20k if you are single to qualify for T20 in KL, meanwhile in poor states like Kelantan, not even 8k can enter into T20

at the end of the day its just a number game

with the current inflation, many SME will have another wave of salary adjustments, which further driving the inflation up

to sum the thread, 6% of the survey population making more than 15k kind of reflecting our economy objectively, its just a bell shaped curve

This post has been edited by dattebayo: May 31 2022, 10:48 PM
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post May 31 2022, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(Topace111 @ May 31 2022, 09:31 PM)
You can download from headhunter salary survey as well:
https://www.hays.com.my/salary-guide

If you want further benchmark, can check robert Walters and Kelly. You can see rm15k is quite normal for many experienced skillful roles.

You do know the concept of foreign currency? If that's the case a Singaporean worker will always earn lesser than its UK and US counterpart? You do know the concept of purchasing power parity as well? SG is highly competitive as they have expats as well competing with their citizens there. You see plenty of SG citizens working at fields that mys will scoff at such as at food court centers, dockyard and hotel services. In MYS, most of these are outsourced to South Asians. Just go and see their national zoo workers.

I see no reason/ purpose to show off. Again I can't see what are you trying to achieve here. Are you:
1) Looking to get into the RM15k club but you not there yet and want to know how? Get promoted/ change company. Cannot find opportunity? Keep searching and network. Plenty of people fail before they get to where they want to go. Everyone wants the glamour of a CEO, not everybody willing to have a meeting at 11pm on a Saturday night though or sleep at production plant during crunch time.

2) You are not in the RM15k club and you are unclear why people are paid such high salary? I can recommend few books/ articles but in summary you create value, you will get paid. You can create value by work hard, smart, cheat, manipulate, hustle, ...etc.

3) You are not in the RM15k club and you are frustrated and unwilling to work to get there. Feel free to find articles to support your mental well being at bored panda whichever makes you feel better.
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Clearly everyone just refer to their friend or manager or site/salary report who earn >RM15k

Thanks for the link, myself also can gfgi
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ May 31 2022, 10:46 PM)
https://loanstreet.com.my/learning-centre/m...ion-b40-m40-t20

actually Malaysia Gini coefficient is damn high, that's the truth also

if you earn more than 11k, then you are in the nationwide T20 classification, while in WPKL, you need to earn at least 20k if you are single to qualify for T20 in KL, meanwhile in poor states like Kelantan, not even 8k can enter into T20

at the end of the day its just a number game

with the current inflation, many SME will have another wave of salary adjustments, which further driving the inflation up

to sum the thread, 6% of the survey population making more than 15k kind of reflecting our economy objectively, its just a bell shaped curve
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thanks for the insight, sad but true, its just a bell curve
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post May 31 2022, 11:01 PM

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Sendiri cannot achieve 15k salary then blame there is no job that pays 15k ... Kek
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post May 31 2022, 11:03 PM

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Even if me show my salary slip that above RM15k also you won't believe if you choose not to believe tongue.gif

btw, I am not director level, not daddykasi nor IT/ Oil & Gas industry...you just need to be good, or be above what your peers and withstand the stress that come with it.

If you ask me worth it or not, I would say, short term yes, long term no. I am planning my exit plan, rather taking lower pay, lesser stress
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QUOTE(LuckyBai @ May 31 2022, 11:01 PM)
Sendiri cannot achieve 15k salary then blame there is no job that pays 15k ... Kek
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TS: Earning 15k? Dream on
Replies: Shows proof of 15k

I can already see that pikachu gif here
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post Jun 1 2022, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(dattebayo @ May 29 2022, 12:45 PM)
they are, you just need to look at the correct industry

i believe IT now is the new O&G after pandemic

15k MYR is just the upper range of senior engineer in IT field. For team leads, specialists, SMEs can get from 15k and beyond.

one thing good about IT is the one can put in lesser amount of effort for every buck they earn, some dumb people keep saying oh grab riders can earn rm8k also but they ignore the fact that how many risks and hours grab riders need to spent to earn that amount
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Lool, i feel grab driver better than those IT staring at PC whole day and night till eye bengkak everyday and risking eye sight. used to work in security system. Those sales and IT specialist you can see their eye is so different from those normal people. Their eye so bengkak one of my superior salesman actually his eyelid have some flesh growing.

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QUOTE(kesvani @ Jun 1 2022, 12:01 AM)
Lool, i feel grab driver better than those IT staring at PC whole day and night till eye bengkak everyday and risking eye sight. used to work in security system. Those sales and IT specialist you can see their eye is so different from those normal people. Their eye so bengkak one of my superior salesman actually his eyelid have some flesh growing.
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Huh in what way different?
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post Jun 1 2022, 01:47 AM

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QUOTE(dattebayo @ May 31 2022, 10:46 PM)
https://loanstreet.com.my/learning-centre/m...ion-b40-m40-t20

actually Malaysia Gini coefficient is damn high, that's the truth also

if you earn more than 11k, then you are in the nationwide T20 classification, while in WPKL, you need to earn at least 20k if you are single to qualify for T20 in KL, meanwhile in poor states like Kelantan, not even 8k can enter into T20

at the end of the day its just a number game

with the current inflation, many SME will have another wave of salary adjustments, which further driving the inflation up

to sum the thread, 6% of the survey population making more than 15k kind of reflecting our economy objectively, its just a bell shaped curve
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Dude.... that is household income la dey.... comprehension and reading skill ain't your strong point eh??

Based on EPF data...

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/epf-...drawal-facility

T20 nationwide for single person is literally just earning above RM4,900...

If apply the same percentage logic of household income....which is 55% more than the national income...WPKL T20 for single person should be >RM7,595

This post has been edited by holypredator: Jun 1 2022, 01:48 AM
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post Jun 1 2022, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(holypredator @ Jun 1 2022, 01:47 AM)
Dude.... that is household income la dey.... comprehension and reading skill ain't your strong point eh??

Based on EPF data...

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/epf-...drawal-facility

T20 nationwide for single person is literally just earning above RM4,900...

If apply the same percentage logic of household income....which is 55% more than the national income...WPKL T20 for single person should be >RM7,595
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if that's the case

then the barrier for T20 is even lower

besides that, assuming most ppl are still single, therefore household income = solo income, we can't possibly include the income for parents and siblings as well, right?
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QUOTE(kesvani @ Jun 1 2022, 12:01 AM)
Lool, i feel grab driver better than those IT staring at PC whole day and night till eye bengkak everyday and risking eye sight. used to work in security system. Those sales and IT specialist you can see their eye is so different from those normal people. Their eye so bengkak one of my superior salesman actually his eyelid have some flesh growing.
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not all of them are like this

alot of factors to decide

most obvious being the environment and the bosses, eg European MNC defintiely not the same as local SME chinaman
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QUOTE(carboost @ May 31 2022, 08:13 PM)
Many people just said who and who making this and that... but how sure are you they're just try to show off? Please delight me if you're one of the Elite.
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I am curious about your intentions, what is it about the delighting that you are looking at? If you want to know more and want to be delighted, by all means, drop me a PM and I can help you out.
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Jun 1 2022, 12:52 PM)
if that's the case

then the barrier for T20 is even lower

besides that, assuming most ppl are still single, therefore household income = solo income, we can't possibly include the income for parents and siblings as well, right?
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Unless you are saying EPF is lying... I trust that is the case....

Single is indeed according to EPF is only >RM4.9k to qualify for T20 nationwide..

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