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SUV vs Sedan?
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May 10 2022, 10:13 PM
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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ May 10 2022, 10:10 PM) I think the Cross will be the more practical compared to the new HRV. Rear door is very square at the glass section compared to the sloping HRV. Have to see it in person to judge. But historically, the honda being honda will be the more entertaining to drive of the 2. Toyota's have very numb steering, but often better sound proofing, more comfortable suspension and the 1.8L engine is a proven reliable unit. Neither will set your pants on fire though, but you also won't go wrong with either. The 2008 on the other hand.......... Don't. It's actually a segment smaller anyway. Hrv is 3xx liter boot while cross is 4xx liter boot. Cross looks intimidating and big. Hrv looks good.
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May 10 2022, 10:20 PM
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QUOTE(lotussgot @ May 10 2022, 05:25 PM) if got child , go for Sedan la and use baby bassinet if its a baby SUV mana safe if shit happens. Do you see AhFatt or Hellfire ever got approved to be sold in the States or EU ? enough said Because they dont care about their parents. How often do you see americans europeans bring grandpa and grandchildren out?
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oM41GoD_
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May 10 2022, 10:49 PM
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If same segment Sedan rear seat more comfortable. U can try compare corolla Altis and Corolla cross
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Kylow
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May 10 2022, 10:50 PM
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yolo coupe
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eenong89
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May 10 2022, 11:53 PM
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Just go for sedan… If really must get suv, buy a REAL SUV.. Example: subaru xv or forester They are value for money.. AWD with double wishbone suspension plus one of the best active cruise control in the market… They actually handle better than most sedan…
This post has been edited by eenong89: May 10 2022, 11:57 PM
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vexus
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May 10 2022, 11:53 PM
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SUV la. taller. cross flood water also no need worry
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MADReaLJL
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May 11 2022, 01:08 AM
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QUOTE(usop8290 @ May 10 2022, 02:14 PM) SUV for comfort and relaxing drive. sedan if you are into driving feel. every weekend layan karak circuit. This. I like cruising 90 - 110 km/hr on highway Of course you can speed up, but too frequent will defeat the purpose of suv.
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FlamingFox
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May 11 2022, 01:26 AM
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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ May 10 2022, 10:10 PM) I think the Cross will be the more practical compared to the new HRV. Rear door is very square at the glass section compared to the sloping HRV. Have to see it in person to judge. But historically, the honda being honda will be the more entertaining to drive of the 2. Toyota's have very numb steering, but often better sound proofing, more comfortable suspension and the 1.8L engine is a proven reliable unit. Neither will set your pants on fire though, but you also won't go wrong with either. The 2008 on the other hand.......... Don't. It's actually a segment smaller anyway. What is numb steering?
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POYOZER
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May 11 2022, 02:22 AM
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QUOTE(blackamikaze @ May 10 2022, 01:10 PM) If u want to experience how to drive a boat, then take suv. Other than that sedan > suv You are so yesterday. Not all SUV are sucks like that. If you drive CRV or CX5 of course you will feel like a boat. Bad at high speed cornering too. But some SUVs can handle better than typical sedan. I know it because I own one. Tested it at LDP, Karak and LPT without any problem. Speed around 160km/h to 200km/h. Very rock stable and good grip. Can handle high speed cornering more than 100km/h without feeling body roll. CRV and CX5 cannot do that. This post has been edited by POYOZER: May 11 2022, 02:23 AM
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TORA datang lagi!
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May 11 2022, 02:50 AM
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SUV due to practicality and space to put baby stroller. Yes sedan also has enough space to put baby stroller. But only laying down position and wasting bonet space. In SUV u can put folded stroller in upright position and saving space for other luggage. Summore it is asier to put in and take out from bonet in upright position.
I have 5 mo baby and used HRV. Really2 convenient to put baby stroller. Also tips from me get car seat than can rotate 360°, much easier to put baby in and out.
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jaycee1
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May 11 2022, 10:21 AM
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QUOTE(FlamingFox @ May 11 2022, 01:26 AM) Numb steering aka, uncommunicative steering is where the steering feel is so isolated and muted that it doesn't transmit any feel of what the front wheels are doing or how much grip the front has. Numb steering may also mean vague on centre feel and steering return feel after you have made a turn. This has been made worst with the move to electric assisted power steering Vs older hydraulic systems, making the steering feel vague and slightly "disconnected" It is an antithesis of a sporty car as you need to feel the limits of grip to push the car to its limits. Factors that contribute to this are different suspension and steering geometry, lock to lock turns, how the steering is damped for NVH and how the steering is powered. That said, it's not a problem if you are not a sporty driver and just want ...a car.
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Zot
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May 11 2022, 10:29 AM
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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ May 11 2022, 10:21 AM) Numb steering aka, uncommunicative steering is where the steering feel is so isolated and muted that it doesn't transmit any feel of what the front wheels are doing or how much grip the front has. Numb steering may also mean vague on centre feel and steering return feel after you have made a turn. This has been made worst with the move to electric assisted power steering Vs older hydraulic systems, making the steering feel vague and slightly "disconnected" It is an antithesis of a sporty car as you need to feel the limits of grip to push the car to its limits. Factors that contribute to this are different suspension and steering geometry, lock to lock turns, how the steering is damped for NVH and how the steering is powered. That said, it's not a problem if you are not a sporty driver and just want ...a car. If you want best feedback then drive Axia/MyVi. Luxury car mostly numb steering
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jaycee1
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May 11 2022, 10:35 AM
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For those people that still want to maintain practically and driving dynamics that SUVs and MPVs lack there remains options of larger hatchbacks or station wagons. Both share the large and square rear door openings and big boot opening of the SUV without suffering from the comfort orientated suspension and higher ride height of the former. Rare and expensive in our market now because we simple don't appreciate cars like that now, unlike in Europe.
Cars like the Subaru Legacy wagons and Levorg (and related outback versions), Volvo wagons and those from the Germans offer both practicality and good driving dynamics.
If one really don't want both the wagons and hatchbacks, BMW makes a range of "GT" versions of the 3 and 5 series for that. Audi has the Sportback A5 and A7, and VW has the Arteon
Sporty SUVs does exist, but that's in another price range alltogether.
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loutze
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May 11 2022, 11:02 AM
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QUOTE(boboke @ May 10 2022, 03:44 PM) Thanks for pointing out these things. Seems like if main concern is baby, the SUV should be the choice. Yes, for sedan, this or Civic FE are in the shorlist. Do consider the cost of maintaining such vehicle as well. I started to look into ownership of a particular vehicle if it's worthy before final purchase. SUV, Sedan and MPV have different road tax category and maintenance for instance price of as tires, car batteries (those norm wear and tear stuff). Many consumer just think of purchasing price most of the time.
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FlamingFox
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May 11 2022, 12:22 PM
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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ May 11 2022, 10:21 AM) Numb steering aka, uncommunicative steering is where the steering feel is so isolated and muted that it doesn't transmit any feel of what the front wheels are doing or how much grip the front has. Numb steering may also mean vague on centre feel and steering return feel after you have made a turn. This has been made worst with the move to electric assisted power steering Vs older hydraulic systems, making the steering feel vague and slightly "disconnected" It is an antithesis of a sporty car as you need to feel the limits of grip to push the car to its limits. Factors that contribute to this are different suspension and steering geometry, lock to lock turns, how the steering is damped for NVH and how the steering is powered. That said, it's not a problem if you are not a sporty driver and just want ...a car. Yup, maybe I'm not a sporty driver at all. I'm appreciative of the electric assisted power steering that makes turning and u-turning such a breeze. Now when driving other cars, I'm no longer used to their steering which feels too heavy for my liking.
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ihavenoidea
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May 11 2022, 12:30 PM
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QUOTE(TORA datang lagi! @ May 11 2022, 02:50 AM) SUV due to practicality and space to put baby stroller. Yes sedan also has enough space to put baby stroller. But only laying down position and wasting bonet space. In SUV u can put folded stroller in upright position and saving space for other luggage. Summore it is asier to put in and take out from bonet in upright position. I have 5 mo baby and used HRV. Really2 convenient to put baby stroller. Also tips from me get car seat than can rotate 360°, much easier to put baby in and out. people see on paper trunk size pakai liter, dont think proper usable space for odd shaped stuff like stroller.
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romuluz777
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May 11 2022, 12:36 PM
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If budget allows, buy both. 1x C segment crossover SUV and a C or D sporty sedan.
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JimbeamofNRT
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May 11 2022, 12:39 PM
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QUOTE(boboke @ May 10 2022, 12:58 PM) Hi, I plan to buy car, family consist of me + wife + 8m/o son + unborn child. Car will use for daily drive,(fetch 2 kids to babysitter), and use as family car long distance travel(maybe once a month). Office and babysitter distance is only like 20minutes from my house. Do you guys think SUV or Sedan better for us? a very wise choice, indeed
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JimbeamofNRT
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May 11 2022, 12:41 PM
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QUOTE(Zot @ May 11 2022, 10:29 AM) If you want best feedback then drive Axia/MyVi. Luxury car mostly numb steering  the current myvi steering also like wth? very light indeed. wonder how tf those kids can drive it beyond 130km/h on highway
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jaycee1
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May 11 2022, 12:44 PM
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QUOTE(ihavenoidea @ May 11 2022, 12:30 PM) people see on paper trunk size pakai liter, dont think proper usable space for odd shaped stuff like stroller. Yep. Also the loading "hole" size and shape. And the load floor height. Normal quoted boot space is usually calculated to the window line, so for SUVs and MPVs it is sometimes deceptively smaller than a sedan (even a B segment City has 500L, bigger than most SUV/MPV) but very often a SUV/MPV can easily load things past the window line. Safe or not or police kacau is another story. A lot of things that makes sense for families don't necessarily make a lot of sense otherwise. Like sliding MPV doors for example...great for children to use and not to worry about them smashing the doors into other cars. Compared to MPVs with normal swing out doors like on the Alza that are very long and swing out very far, tough for tight parking spots (fortunately he Alza is fairly narrow). A lot of people buy cars based on Thier emotions and not the technically and functionality and fail to test out these aspects when car shopping.
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