of cos la, cos the razer stuff comes from SG

Not by much though..... It's maybe 10 Ringgit less or something

Well, DB 3G wasn't in the context
DA pwns lol [im a righty XD]
can you do me a favour? take ur db 3g and drag it left and right like crazy on ur everglide. see whether it skips anot =p
should be getting a dkt or fnatic monster mat next month, im all dry this month thx to DA and a new keyboard

sure or not? i bought my exactmat at SGD55 when the price was about RM100+ ..

i bought mine at 40 sgd

the razer pro pad and razer exactmat is the same right..??

will the white color of the razer pro pad effect the performance..

GTG

mine was wif exact rest wor.. and nearly 2 yrs ago... wa tht means i kena cheat liao.. .. sien adi..

hehe mine also have the rest

great , will see how it goes ...

if dont get my guitar , imma gonna get me a new mouse

whens the launch for the dunno whats its name mouse ah ?

theres your answer.
never belief anything, but belief the store owner who ripped you off
when exactmat came out a few yrs, i paid razer SG a visit then, managed to get it for IIRC around $35-38.
this was before exactrest was released, and when exactmat without rest retailed for RM129.

depends la, the more you spend the more you save, thats always the case

anyway, heres a recent promo from SG.


DB 3G can get $75.
that protype bundle with DB also is cool right?

some stuff not mentioned.
exactmat w/ rest $35.
the tarantula bundle can actually get $159, the free gift is...a krait.
another one not mentioned there is a combo of tarantula and DA for $209...

so ppl dont cry k

This post has been edited by Everdying: Oct 17 2007, 10:50 AM

wah.. meaning i have to camp at sg n wait for lachesis already...

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Added on October 17, 2007, 10:25 am

wah.. expensive..

This post has been edited by jakesean: Oct 17 2007, 10:25 AM

DAMMIT....... I think I'm going to Singapore and get my Tarantula!!!! Hopefully I can go there by end of the month......

wah free mantis,btw izzit big difference razer mouse frm normal mouse?

This post has been edited by choyster: Oct 17 2007, 04:56 PM

YESS.. i will neverrrrrr.. neverrrrrrrrrrrrr use another rm5 mouse again.. except if i really have got no other choice ..

Hells yeah......... VERY VERY big difference....... especially on the newer 3G technology ones........

Is the DB 3G light can turn off using the mouse driver?

Add me ^^ just bought my Razer Diamondback 3G with Mantis Speed.

Alright, I already did a exchange for my Death Adder and it is now a brand new unit.

Here is the review. With alot of my personal preference so it might sound biased towards what I prefer. Hopefully it doesn't look it clouds the review.

Originally it came with firmware V1.10 and knowing the bugs that it has, I quickly flashed it to V1.25 which solves several annoying bugs.

First thing that comes into mind when having a Death Adder is its elegant looks. The Microsoft IntelliMouse Explorer 3.0 design inspired is biased towards right handers. The mouse is illuminated in a color Razer calls Nova Blue with the logo pulsating in a pleasant manner.
he entire upper part of the mouse is covered in a material which is a hybrid combination of plastic and rubber. It is wonderful to touch and a sight for sore eyes. However it is not without its flaws. This sort of material tends to absorb sweat and oil, so overtime it will definitely turn from a work of art to a scarface. The rest of the body is made out of polished plastic, yet again, this is a design flaw. Human bodies produces oil and sweat, with polished plastic, oil tends stain and grip of the mouse will severely affected.

The clicks on the mouse button 1,2,3,4 and 5 all feel solid and tactile. The mouse wheel utilizes small grooves so it doesn't click loudly as it is being rotated. The cable is thin and light comparatively to the 3 other mice I own which is the MIE3.0 MIE1.1a and the Logitech MX518. The difference here is that it provides a less restrictive movement during gameplay if you're not using a mouse bungee or some sort of cable management system.

Now we shall move down to the selling point of the mouse. We all know the Death Adder's sensor is a 3rd Generation (3G) Infrared optical sensor with a maximum resolution of 1800 dpi that was claimed to be built for low sensitivity players. Perfect! I'm a low sensitivity player myself. With ESReality's mouse benchmark proving that its sensor is at least as good as (but in the tests, superior) the MX518's optical sensor. I was left with high expectations and a dry wallet.

As a benchmark, I used the MIE3.0 as my main mouse, although the sensor is very much inferior to the MX518, the IE3.0 felt very good to my hands. The IE3.0 does suffer from negative acceleration quite abit when you drag the mouse past a certain speed.(You can refer to the charts of the ESR benchmark results). The specs of the MIE3.0 is 450dpi optical sensor (Yes, 450 not 400 as most people believe) with a stock polling rate of 125Hz.
With the Death Adder, I installed the drivers with only one thing in mind, to update the firmware. Else, the settings are identical with what you get from a plug and play configuration. Resolution at 1800dpi as well as 125Hz polling rate. Also, I used the windows mouse settings with the pointer speed at the 3rd dot, 2 bars from the furthest left. (It then feels like 450dpi, slightly faster.)

I play Counter Strike : Source mainly, with CnC3 as a close second and occasionally CS1.6. In Source, my sensitivity is 1.7 with the Death Adder, which translates to me having to move the mouse approximately 14 cm to make a 90 degree turn. A full 360 turn forces me 4 swipes of 14 cm or 2 swipes of 28 cm approximately.
The perfect control of this mouse is amazing, I've been shooting alot better with the Death Adder thanks to its very well performing sensor, HOWEVER, benchmarking results show that it will never skip as its malfunction speed is above 4.50 m/s (Is it even possible for me to move the mouse at that speed? Well, that I don't know) It occasionally skips during fast drags. A little disappointing despite its heft price tag of 190+MYR (I'm only a student). Not forgetting to mention, the mouse tracks despite being lifted a fair amount of distance, bout 5mm on the Mantis Speed which I'm currently using as its the only pad that the Death Adder seem to agree with relatively. On hard surfaces, tracking cuts off at a good 2/3mm.

Another thing is, I feared it might have been because of the mousing surface I've been using, which is a Steelpad QCK as Death Adders have been known to have problems with Steelpads.
Heres the catch, I tried it with all mousing surfaces I own, and even borrowed some to make sure that it isn't the fault of the mouse. I tried it on an Everglide Titan DKT, Mantis Speed, Steelpad QCK, FuNc 1030, an Exactmat and the most wonderful wood veneered TABLE of mine. Note that on Mantis Control, mice tend to track quite poorly comparatively to Speed, I have no idea why.
There is an oddity here which I still don't understand, it skips indefinitely on all clothe surfaces while on all hard surfacese it does not show ANY sign of skipping or even negative acceleration. The use of Exactmat and my table and even my friends table (lol I'm really not kidding) already proven this. I stay away from hard surfaces since they grind your mouse feet very quickly and their too smooth for me. I need a lot more friction than what the Exactmat Control can offer.
Regardless, I had slightly higher expectations off the Death Adder than what I experienced.
No gripes on RTS games like CNC3 and WC3:Frozen Throne(God I love this mouse using Orcs).
Oh, I have got to add this, the bloody teflon feet is as thin as paper, using hard mats will kill it off in a week.

Conclusion - Its one of the best mice money can buy,but low sensitivity players who uses clothe surfaces should be reminded that if you play very very low sensitivity it might skip on and off depending how fast you drag your mouse. There are several design flaws that could have been avoided if they (Razer) would have paid slightly more attention to fine details, yes it looks good, but will it hold up for very serious gamers who will use the same on the long run? All in all, it still can't beat the MX518 yet, only in comfort it does.

*Edit = Oh yeah, Everdying might have been right bout the ESR mouse benchmark being biased. Although most of the results feels accurate, from the mice I've used they really feel right, which is the MIE3.0,1.1a, MX518, Copperhead, Diamondback, G3 and G5. The only one that strays from the list is the Death Adder.

**Edit 2 = I have to credit Moderno for bearing with my gripes and allowed the 1 on 1 exchange despite the problem was not very apparent.

***Edit 3 = Damn, I'm so forgetful. The IR sensor makes the mouse feel very warm. Heres some basic physics for you, infrared is an emitted electromagnetic wave usually from hot objects. However, objects can absorb infrared light and gain more energy and converting into heat. In this case, the infrared light emitted from the sensor is absorbed by the shell of the mouse and thus causing the mouse to feel hot.

This post has been edited by sean392: Oct 17 2007, 09:30 PM

of cos depends on ur usage la.
if all u gonna play is solitaire, then of cos no

games of cos got...but then if u cant play to save ur life also no difference

oh yeah, everdying, any idea how to contact razer itself?
i'd like to send in some comments to see its fixable via firmware.