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 The Razer Thread V3.0, Mako - The bringer of bankruptcy

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sean392
post Sep 30 2007, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(shinjun @ Sep 30 2007, 12:25 PM)
Joke? laugh.gif Install the driver and you can get to use it.
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Well, maybe he meant without drivers.
Drivers are abit of a hassle on LAN tourneys, sometimes some marshal's can be a pr!ck bout installing drivers.
Plug and play ftw biggrin.gif
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post Sep 30 2007, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(blacktrix @ Sep 30 2007, 05:34 PM)
In that case it's either the LH (That's what I'm calling it now..... so there!) or the CH for you, as those are the only ones with on board memory.
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I can't use the CH
its sensor doesn't allow low sensitivity,
it skips like crazy for me.
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post Oct 8 2007, 12:03 AM

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....... was planning to get a deathadder to replace my MIE3.0
now usb issues?
is it on the newer or older batch?
my friends DA seems to be fine. its been bout 2/3 months now
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post Oct 9 2007, 08:31 PM

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ugh, screw impulsive buying. lol
update me, got myself a deathadder to replace my MIE3.0

only thing i don't like is the mouse is freaking warm ><
guess thats what you get when its using an infrared sensor


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post Oct 9 2007, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(Maverick_Neutron @ Oct 9 2007, 09:11 PM)
actually, it's warm because of the led light beneath your palm. Razer has this annoying habit of putting bright blue led all over their products. Eye-piercing to the max.
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LEDs don't generate much heat.
I think its like this, the infrared sensor emits a an infrared light, the chips and chassis of the mouse absorbs some of the light and irradiates energy in the form of heat.
I don't recall any copperhead users complaining bout their mice being hot. Maybe I haven't heard it all, but I have used the copperhead myself, so I'm also saying this based on first hand experience.

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post Oct 9 2007, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(skylinegtr34rule4life @ Oct 9 2007, 09:53 PM)
screw u 4 being impulsively jealous of impulsive buyers laugh.gif

anyway razer mouse is memang hot like a boiled kettle of water...i tried razer kraut in CC nearby me n i can feel one spot of hottness on my palm...not sure how i can endure with the hotness when i get one razer in the future...hahaha blush.gif
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I've been wanting a Death Adder since I felt the Habu back during CEL games. I know the Habu has a retarded sensor, and I knew the Death Adder had the same body, but a sensor even better than my IntelliExplorer 3.0.
Was delaying till today, dunno y out of nowhere I popped into moderno's shop and just bought it. LOL
IT HAPPENED SO FAST I DIN EVEN THINK BOUT BEING BROKE FOR THE MONTH LOL
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post Oct 10 2007, 12:18 AM

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!@#@$%#$^@$#$^&
wtf?
my death adder skips when i play cs
T_T
faulty sensor?
so much for 3G infrared optical

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post Oct 10 2007, 08:09 AM

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thing is, i don' think its a faulty unit, it only skips occasionally when i do a very fast drag to turn around, (of course my drag shot will never skip a mouse lol)

its more like im whining tho, i spent nearly 200 bucks, and i would expect it to perform at least as good as my ie3 and mx518

ugh, i'll go try my friends DA see whether it has the same problem anot
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post Oct 10 2007, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Oct 10 2007, 09:24 AM)
remember earlier i said, even tho DA and DB 3G have the exact same sensor, but both perform differently in different games AND different mousepads.
well, i say you might be experiencing that now.

you by any chance using a steelpad? tongue.gif
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bloody good guess
steelpad qck, my exactmat on loan to my friend and i no longer use hardpads lol

borrowing a mantis from my friend later to try it out

is there anyway to know the firmware version of the mouse without installing the drivers?
i much prefer not using drivers, its better for lan lol


QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ Oct 10 2007, 09:31 AM)
so is it DB 3G a good buy? i'm a high sens player.
does it ever gets warm like ppl complained about DA?

i could do without too much bling on the logo. and since my CH is killing me now...both left and right button double clicks. :/
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Definitely good. It having an infrared sensor, I do think it'll be rather warm.

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post Oct 10 2007, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Oct 10 2007, 10:53 AM)
the steelpad is not a guess...its a proven fact tongue.gif
apparently the original steelpads work fine tho, the steelpad sk also apparently work fine...just something about the newer regular ones that dont work.

but firmware? to check without drivers on another PC? no idea tongue.gif
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ergh, gay.....
hopefully it doesn't stay like this with the mantis or after i flash the firmware
the tracking distance is also rather high ><
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post Oct 10 2007, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Oct 10 2007, 11:23 AM)
tracking distance? as in liftoff?
someone measured it at 2.4mm...doesnt bother me unless i have to drop my sens real real low, which is not that often cos i hardly use that weapon tongue.gif
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mine goes up to 6mm
really annoying
anyway gonna update the firmware see if it helps ><

owh it also have positive acceleration
ewwwww

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post Oct 10 2007, 02:36 PM

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Goody firmware v1.25 fixed the lift off distance
gonna go frag awhile see how the sensor is doin now
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post Oct 10 2007, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Oct 10 2007, 03:23 PM)
to fix acceleration, try lowering the polling rate back to 125hz.
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yeah done that alr, used to playing with 125hz anyway
found the problem with the skipping, its the mat
it can't track shite on the steelpad
NUUUU
my table is a better mousepad >< it doesn't skip a bit ><
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post Oct 10 2007, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Oct 10 2007, 04:17 PM)
yea, told you steelpad tongue.gif
go everglide monstermat la, no regrets.
forget mantis, even tho same material, but everglide better cos its all BLACK tongue.gif
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eeyer, wth, it still skips on the mantis
ergh...... i go pinjam my friends everglide and try ><

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post Oct 10 2007, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Oct 10 2007, 04:17 PM)
yea, told you steelpad tongue.gif
go everglide monstermat la, no regrets.
forget mantis, even tho same material, but everglide better cos its all BLACK tongue.gif
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gay.
it still skips on the mantis
it doesn't skip on my wooden table
grrr wtf?
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post Oct 11 2007, 01:13 AM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Oct 10 2007, 09:56 PM)
now maybe try cleaning your sensor? i know with my CH even a few small specks of dust affects it abit.
well, even polling rate, DA can hit 1000hz easily...
DB 3G apparently averages out just below 900hz, thats still better than regular DB tho...but doesnt explain why its different from the DA with the same sensor, unless of cos some small changes were made between DA and DB 3G.
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yea i cleaned it alr
my mat is dusty tho, just washed it
both the mantis and the qck is dusty, i go get back my exactmat and borrow an everglide tmr, see whether it skips anot

QUOTE(Punish @ Oct 11 2007, 12:16 AM)
what the best setting for my new da....DPI ,polling rate, sensitivity..??

i use sensitivity 3 in CSS

GTG
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Well, best would be setting the polling to 500/1000hz 1800 dpi sensi
for those who didn't know switching the dpi lower reduces the performance of the death adder's sensor

I myself use 1800 dpi using windows bar to lower it till it feels around 450 [3rd bar from left] and 1.8 in css and 2.0 in cs1.6
my settings in the driver [only installed the driver for the firmware update]
1800dpi 125hz, both would be same as plugging and playing straight without drivers

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post Oct 11 2007, 07:47 AM

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if u can feel the difference between 500 and 1000 hz
then usually 1000 hz would be better, but if u can't feel it, might as well save the strain of the usb port and use 500 hz
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post Oct 11 2007, 02:46 PM

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@everdying
i think my sensor is faulty, will do an exchange tmr
it doesn't make sense that it tracks poorly on cloth surfaces

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post Oct 16 2007, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(Havoc Knightmare @ Oct 16 2007, 01:40 AM)
The copperhead uses laser while the deathadder uses 3d optical. Is there a difference when it comes to usage?
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Copperheads only advantage is that its ambidextrous. The 3G iR is in everyway superior. [Unless of course you want to be a complete prick bout it being 200dpi less than the Copperhead]
Its perfect for low sensitivity play.
My experience with the Copperhead was nothing to shout about, however with the Death Adder was very very good. Only thing is I'm pretty unlucky =/ my unit is a little faulty.
The 3G iR sensor supposed to have a very very high malfunction speed @ 4.45m/s and a very very high perfect control up to 3.96 m/s as far as I remember from ESR mouse benchmark (I know it might be a little biased, but so far the benchmark feels accurate.)

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post Oct 17 2007, 12:41 AM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Oct 16 2007, 09:09 PM)
ahems ahems.
DB 3G tongue.gif
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Well, DB 3G wasn't in the context whistling.gif
DA pwns lol [im a righty XD]
can you do me a favour? take ur db 3g and drag it left and right like crazy on ur everglide. see whether it skips anot =p
should be getting a dkt or fnatic monster mat next month, im all dry this month thx to DA and a new keyboard



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