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post Mar 30 2022, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Mar 30 2022, 12:19 PM)
This is an example of quality reply. Understand the question ,know why the question was asked and suggested logical solution, thanks
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I believe you already know this is the solution to it before asking, you just want to check if there's any better suggestion/solution, right?

I hope you already done the withdrawal this morning before 11am as today will be 1st day of 4 working days

You can max out your interest earning of another 50k on the last day, capitalize on the 50k FPX transfer of your B Islam
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post Apr 8 2022, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(Daprind @ Apr 8 2022, 11:48 AM)
Decided to put 1K in KDI Invest. Don't mind to leave it there for couple of years. Hope to see +++ coming...
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Good expectation and mindset for investment, have a long term horizon. But imagine this, assume yearly 10%, 5 years compounded total return 61.05%

Your investment of 1k will grow to 1.61k, will that additional RM 610 makes any big difference to your life? If yes, go on.

If not, then you should consider set aside a fix amount and invest periodically (weekly best, else monthly), with that you will get a more meaningful amount for your future self.
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post Apr 9 2022, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(Hoshiyuu @ Apr 8 2022, 04:40 PM)
It'll depend on your capital, your investment interval, and how much you plan to deposit each time. It goes something like this:

1. 0 lump sum capital, plan to put in 200 or so a month build investing habit: Stashaway, KDI Invest is fine.

2. 500-1000 a month, prefer monthly DCA to better capture up and downs of the market - IBKR and buy $VT, accept paying 15% more WHT for cheaper trading fees. Move to Ireland domiciled &VWRA in the future when withholding tax drag is bigger than trade commission cost.

3. ~2500-3000++ a month, or willing to invest quarterly (save up to 3000-5000+ then one shot invest every 3-4 months): $VWRA on IBKR.

Fees for reference:

Wise forex MYR -> USD is about 0.5% forex charge
IBKR forex: 2USD fixed, spot rate.
IBKR US stocks : 0.35USD
IBKR Ireland domiciled USD denominated stocks: 1.70USD
$VT Expense Ratio: 0.07% annually
$VWRA Expense Ratio:  0.22% annually
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Very good sharing, thank for the long explanation, it's so true that the lower the fees, the higher effective return our portfolio will be. Kudos!

Have you ever thought of how your portfolio can pass down to your love ones if anything happens to you? Estate distribution for each country differs and require lawyer of that country to run the paper work, which cost much more fees and time compare to assets setup in Malaysia (KDI). This could be an example of penny wise pound foolish. Worst is non of your family aware you have account in overseas platform, that will be equivalent to total lost.

Alternatively, make sure you write down your platform login particular with trading code, your phone password somewhere so your next of kin can access to the portfolio you setup with IBKR. Make sure you hide somewhere very hard to find but easy to find when you're gone.

My 2 cents for those who wish to have overseas investment platform, think long term, think about your estate planning, consult your lawyer or estate planner.
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post Apr 21 2022, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(fruitie @ Apr 21 2022, 02:31 PM)
Just to confirm if I were to deposit to KDI Save before tomorrow's 11.00 a.m., then it will be reflected at tomorrow's 4.00 p.m.?
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Yes, provided the tomorrow mention herein is a working day
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post Apr 25 2022, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(CoolStoryWriter @ Apr 25 2022, 08:48 PM)
is now a good time to put money in KDI invest?
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For KDI Save, anytime is a good time

For KDI Invest, case to case basis, perform the risk profiling and read the disclaimer carefully
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post Apr 26 2022, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(tadashi987 @ Apr 26 2022, 01:29 PM)
Two months manage to get RM 100 million of AUM with 6500 success sign up, that's average of RM 15.3k++ per account holder, not bad!
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post Apr 27 2022, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Apr 27 2022, 09:06 PM)
positive return 10% so high?

My KDI Invest Growth now under water already.
Aggressive portfolio surely also same or worse.

If Balance portfolio so good gain 10%, we must switch liao...
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Be rational bro, the investment date is very crucial. Even though both are same portfolio, investment date plays an important element to determine return la
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post Apr 29 2022, 11:18 AM

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Loss aversion, refers to people's preferences to avoid losing compared to gaining the equivalent amount, in simple term, human emotion on losing RM 1000 is the same when making gain of about RM 1500 to RM 2500.

This is the flaws of human nature which cause most of the people realize the losses when they see negative in their portfolio. Only small fraction who can with stand able to enjoy the fruits of return in long run
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post Apr 29 2022, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(runningdash @ Apr 29 2022, 01:29 AM)
Invested 2.7k at aggressive portfolio earlier this month around 7 april. Last week positive return +rm27 make me so happy thought can become more by end of month then suddenly friday become negative -rm42 . Today become negative -rm30.

Should sell or hold onto the portfolio?
Advise please.

I know market is dropping but shouldn't robo be able to predict and do something about it.
Like that not much different from buying own self and robo.
Market drop robo also drop, then what is robo for?
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It is foolhardy to ask about investment decision on forum, anyone can give you crap advise, no one will be responsible on the advise given.
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post May 11 2022, 03:46 PM

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https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/bnm-...-record-low-175

BNM increase OPR to 2%, hopefully our KDI Save return rate can be higher, or maybe the 2.25% above 200k deposit can be higher.
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post May 12 2022, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ May 12 2022, 05:02 PM)
already passed 100mil AUM (assets under management) for KDI Save and Invest.. they better improve the app:

https://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...gital-investing

1. give us face id / fingerprint scanning.
2. detailed breakdown of the ETFs, before we invest in KDI invest for every risk profile.

just these 2 big things and we will happy liao.
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1. Since day 1 I been using fingerprint with the password saved in password vault

2. No likely will get the latest updared ETF portfolio from day to day, if not someone will just copy buta buta
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post May 14 2022, 11:28 AM

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I report to them on their calculation of total deposit and total return, which any withdrawal will deduct certain amount from total return. And they admitted the flaws.

The bottom line is, I occasionally double check the total account value with 3% for 200k and 2.25% on the remaining balance, it does tally and sometimes few cents better, heheheh
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post May 18 2022, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ May 14 2022, 06:35 PM)
if software bug, shouldn't the 3% be applied to  bigger amount?

it seems to me only applied to  returns earned from 1st 200k,
200k x 3% in ~3 months 
just around there 1249 and 1309 i think..
i believe you also have a portion above 200k that earns 3%

use my method above, simulate a test  withdraw all amount above RM200k.

There you can see it.

Note:Today KDI Save returns no update so late already.
        KDI Invest updated pulak...
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I figured it out how they calculate the interest rate for KDI Save when your total value above 200k

3% on return, regardless how much is your total value

1st 200k of Net Deposit at 3%
Subsequent amount of Net Depsoit at 2.25%

With that, if your Net Deposit at 200k, return let say 10k, you will still get 3% on total value of RM 210k
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post May 18 2022, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ May 18 2022, 10:22 AM)
What about when you hv 210k?
All 210k will get 3%,
Or 200k will get 3%, while the balance will get 2.25%
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Obviously my explanation not clear enough for you.

If it's a new portfolio with new investment into KDI Save RM 210k, then 1st 200k @ 3%, 10k @ 2.25%

If you have invested sometime ago, made multiple withdrawals and deposits, then the calculation follow my previous post.

*Conclusion, investor on advantage, but I found myself silly to proof this and try to explain. The return wont make us rich neither make us poor, just move on stay invested till the end-Dec 2022.

This post has been edited by lovelyuser: May 18 2022, 10:47 AM
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post May 18 2022, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ May 18 2022, 10:46 AM)
Oh, that means,
"If you have invested sometime ago, made multiple withdrawals and deposits, then the calculation follow your previous post.... All will still get 3% regardless of even there are accumulation of deposits and the balance in the account is of over 200k?
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Is your total value more than 200k?

If yes, do you mind share the screenshot and I explain from there.
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post May 27 2022, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ May 27 2022, 09:30 AM)
I just pumped KDI invest more up to 2.8k total

now wait for it to grow. Exceed 3k will then transfer some to KDI save for foc fee.

good time to top up when stocks hit all time lows.
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1st of all, according to the TnC, fees only charge for DEPOSIT above 3k, not account value above 3k

2nd, you need to be clear why you're investing. If you are so concern about the fee and keep investment amount at 3k, assuming 8% pa compounding, it will grow to 6,476 10 years later. RM 6,476 will make a difference to your life 10 years later?

Even with 10%, 10 years later will be just merely RM 7,781

Why the hassle?
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post Jul 7 2022, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Jul 7 2022, 04:40 PM)
Yeah, and 1 last difference is those kiasi people will favor FD more due to PIDM protection up to certain amount.

For us in KDI Save no such protection.
There are many investments no PIDM protection, is have to calculate all the risks see ok or not.  laugh.gif Got SC approved is very safe liao for avoiding scams and such.
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KDI Save is for those who are well verse and confident to go online and paperless.

One man's meat is another man's poison, no point hard sell to hardcore FD, just stick with what we are comfortable.

FYI, FD is the last thing I want to have bruce.gif
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post Jul 9 2022, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(bcombat @ Jul 8 2022, 06:39 PM)
user posted image

my conservative portfolio assets
looks like they try to manage the underlying assets volatility rather than go all out to maximise investor profit
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The name conservative mean not taking excessive risk, change your portfolio to aggressive growth if you want all out
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post Jul 9 2022, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(bcombat @ Jul 9 2022, 09:16 AM)
as share by someone. Aggressive portfolio also mostly fixed income assets.

And why want to aggressive at the time like this?
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Aggressive will have hybrid option for AI to decide when to all out when to be conservative, if you maintain at conservative, no chance can be all out no matter what circumstances
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post Jul 12 2022, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Jul 12 2022, 09:04 AM)
past few days my KDI from desktop does not seem to work.

not sure if its my PC or their problem... anyone else hv same issue?

works fine on telephone.
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Work fine on my Android phone and Google Chrome on PC, for now

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