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post Mar 26 2022, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(magika @ Mar 26 2022, 06:29 PM)

I also take cognisance of the fact that you tolerate no fools, just please bear in mind that this is just a financial forum, where discourse should be entertained, in the long run it benefits everyone.

Just to clear the air, based on your recent data disclosure, you are absolutely right that the return is compounded daily.
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i am glad you finally admitted the return is compounded daily. But your friend above still refused to admit so.

Still you did not explain why you said this:
QUOTE(magika @ Mar 26 2022, 02:54 PM)
I think you wont win any award for your England sentence.

The sentence should run as " But i am getting RM130.73 today in contrast to yesterday interest of RM130.60. "

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is my english that bad ? And why daily interest must increase Rm0.13 knowing accumulated returns only RM2299..

You know how much confusion you guys have caused by pretending not to know the fact?

Am i the only guy with KDI save ??
Just login your own account, you can see also what. doh.gif
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post Mar 27 2022, 12:40 AM

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QUOTE(cklimm @ Mar 26 2022, 08:56 PM)
Ello, why would you guys quarrel over the measly difference?
Dont you guys have bigger fish to fry?
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QUOTE(magika @ Mar 26 2022, 10:55 PM)
u should get 0.14 cents extra compound interest on sum of RM2299.74 x 2.25% /365 that is today.
Its calculated separately so to avoid confusion on my part, maybe. Your net deposit of RM2052k is following the standard calculation 200k @3% 1852k @2.25% pa equals to RM130.60 per day if my calc is correct. So total return today 26/3/22 should be around RM130.74
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what you said above is not wrong.you are becoming another @xander83

But what you said earlier was clearly wrong. this.
QUOTE(magika @ Mar 26 2022, 02:54 PM)
The sentence should run as " But i am getting RM130.73 today in contrast to yesterday interest of RM130.60. "
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How could u even suggested me to say the above which is obviously wrong! telling people daily interest can increase 13 sen

Daily interest increase by very small amount 1 or 2sen only a day.
see what u said above and see daily interest increment below.

19.3.22 Interest today RM130.70- Total Returns RM1515.39
20.3.22 Interest today RM130.70 Returns RM1646.09
21.3.22 Interest today RM130.72 Returns RM1776.81
22.3.22 Interest today RM130.72 Returns RM1907.53
23.3.22 Interest today RM130.73 Returns RM2038.26
24.3.22 Interest today RM130.73 Returns RM2168.99
25.3.22 Interest today RM130.75 Returns RM2299.74




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post Mar 27 2022, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(magika @ Mar 27 2022, 12:58 AM)
If you look at my reply you would see that i am requoting you.
Changing your sentence to try to make more sense.
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You must not correct me if you do not understand what i said.
why @Jwkhor could get it but you couldn't despite me prompted you twice?

you cant be that slow, mathematically so unsavvy
worse is try become another @xander83, twist and turn,
pretend nothing happened.

QUOTE(Jwkhor @ Mar 27 2022, 11:56 AM)
I think i see the confusion here. What guy3288 meant was if interest was not compounded he would he would be getting Rm130.60 everyday. However his latest daily interest is RM130.73 proofing that interest is compounded.

He did not mean his daily interest the day before was RM130.60 and the next day is RM130.73, which by u changing his sentence to “But i am getting RM130.73 today in contrast to yesterday interest of RM130.60.” implies just that which is now inaccurate and not what guy3288 was saying
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QUOTE(magika @ Mar 27 2022, 12:04 PM)
Noted.  On hindsight i agree.
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QUOTE(skty @ Mar 27 2022, 12:24 PM)
move on guys. don't waste too much time on this...

I personally will only use KDI Save to temporary park the money that does not belongs to me so I can earn interest while always be ready to return the money when the owners come looking for it.
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good. be patient with forumner who are abit slow but genuinely want to learn
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For those who like to comment but lazy to find out first
the saga started when some starting to worry about their money, interest being cut at withdrawal,
how interest calculated etc etc.

cant blame them as KDi was at fault not being clear and "cutting" returns trf to Nett Deposit when we withdraw.
i raised the issue on 14.3.22 , but quickly found the answer, kudos to @shawnme
QUOTE(guy3288 @ Mar 14 2022, 08:51 PM)
After withdrawal noticed reduced interest is more than expected
WD RM10k,  today daily interest  reduced by RM3.54, should cut only RM0.62
WD RM1k ,  today daily interest  reduced by RM0.40, should cut only RM0.06
Anybody noticed that?
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QUOTE(shawnme @ Mar 15 2022, 08:39 AM)
I've made a withdrawal of RM 1k, and I noticed my "Net Deposit" amount increased by RM 0.70. Could it be where it went to?
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Then as usual trying to explain by giving false info, shit stirrer came
QUOTE(xander83 @ Mar 15 2022, 01:22 AM)
It is FIFO whereby withdrawals will be from earlier deposits  doh.gif
Lesson is never fiddled withdrawal unless it is necessary  doh.gif
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FACT- it is first in last out, NOT FIFO!!

next came magika raising question on compound interest
QUOTE(magika @ Mar 24 2022, 07:36 PM)
Hope not intruding but based on the issues, so the Return is in separate account meaning it is not compounding ?
Or am i mistaken. Base Compounding Interest ... what does it mean...
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QUOTE(xander83 @ Mar 24 2022, 07:54 PM)
Return is not compounded
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they caused so much confusion...
QUOTE(ericlaiys @ Mar 25 2022, 10:20 AM)
but it is not compounded. so in the long run, it is no good. it will be like FD which you put for lock in 9 month. different here is no lock down
Now I have doubt if we can get those mentioned return when we withdraw all now. Sometimes, it is marketing to trick you that you earn a lot of interest but may not be the case when withdraw now
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QUOTE(Jwkhor @ Mar 25 2022, 10:25 AM)
If we take KDI max limit of 200k for 3%, vs 200k for say 2.4% on similar platforms. The difference is about there RM100 pm.

But that wasnt the point, im more concerned with how they calculate the interest if u made withdrawals cuz some ppl have mentioned there has been some discrepancies.
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QUOTE(cybpsych @ Mar 24 2022, 04:18 PM)
pure KDI Save
seems like withdrawal will also clawback the profit too?
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the rest is history... the 2 of them just going round and round everytime i tried to explain
with data and calculation till you guys all got fed up!.

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QUOTE(cklimm @ Mar 28 2022, 02:23 PM)
oh no, dont start it again..
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a short answer YES is harmless, shit happened only when some just refused to accept truth,
twist and turn to rebut.

QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Mar 28 2022, 02:27 PM)
What so big deal about 200000 and 200164…..
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yeah the amount is too small to be visible.

QUOTE(ericlaiys @ Mar 28 2022, 02:29 PM)
everyone please dont answer those question that have been discussed for few days. kindly refer to previous thread rather than post same question everyday
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right also, answer is already there
QUOTE(Afterburner1.0 @ Mar 28 2022, 02:40 PM)
no no don't get me wrong, just for my knowledge only... looking for short simple answers only.... so its confirmed compounding interest if i read all the long ass answers/ debate in  the previous post rite?
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isnt the answer already there?

QUOTE(MUM @ Mar 28 2022, 02:56 PM)
KDI Save offers a promotional fixed return of 3.0% per annum for the first RM 200,000 in cash deposits made until 31 December 2022.
The rates for any placement above RM 200,000 would be 2.25% per annum.
https://kclau.com/investment/kdi-save-review/

So that 200k will get 3%,...what about those interest earned? Will only get 2.25%pa or 3%pa? (as it is not considered as cash deposit... But interest earned or will they consider interest earned as cash deposits too? ) 🤔🤔
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above 200k why should KDI pay 3% again? How if some put RM10 million and earn so much interest
and that interest is asking KDI for 3% beyond the RM200k?

QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Mar 29 2022, 12:30 AM)
ask customer service
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then it defeats the purpose of this forumn.
We must differentiate genuine slow forumner from shit stirrer.

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post Mar 29 2022, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Mar 29 2022, 10:05 AM)
As it is a deposit, then it would be as follows..
"KDI Save offers a promotional fixed return of 3.0% per annum for the first RM 200,000 in cash deposits made until 31 December 2022.
The rates for any placement above RM 200,000 would be 2.25% per annum."
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You didn't get my point, read again.
Imagine i deposit rm200million, my accumulated returns now
Rm229000, would KDI pay 3% for this?

You argue this is not deposit, it is interest ,i doubt kdi can pay 3% for any amount above 200k, whether deposit or interest
QUOTE(kykyky @ Mar 29 2022, 10:17 AM)
Guys, for KDI save, any idea where the withdrawal will withdraw the money from "Returns" first, or will withdraw the money from "Net Deposit" first?
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Almost all from nett deposit

QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Mar 29 2022, 10:34 AM)

i reiterate official info must always come from kenanga. many forumers got wrong info and blindly follow, not only in this thread but also other threads. anything wrong, can't hold forumers responsible. just got to keep quiet and hide in shame.
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Obviously, OFFICIAL word is not there for nothing.

But i agree follow blindly go suffer quietly, cant blame anyone.

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QUOTE(MUM @ Mar 29 2022, 11:49 AM)
So that means the earlier post by a forummers questioning that if he will get 200k x 3% interest after 10 days.... Is he will not continue to get 3% on all his money for the I terest earned will exceed 200k n the rate will be reduced for any access of 200k...
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Answer is already there. If i explain further others would get impatient with you and jittery again
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Share with you guys another set of data
from the same account

QUOTE(Afterburner1.0 @ Mar 28 2022, 02:13 PM)
If i invest 200k in KDI Save and get an interest of 3% pa, so its about rm16.43 per day? After 10 days my total will be 200,164.38. So do they take 200k or 200,164.38 to calculate my 11th day interest?

Just curious how it works here....
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Preparing for WD to multiple bank accounts soon,
I got another set of data to confirm "how it works"

Earlier i said
Daily interest= ( X+Y+Z) x 3%/365

X= Nett deposit yesterday
Y=New deposit today b4 11am
Z=Returns accumulated yesterday


Now add WD to the formula

Int today =(X+Y+Z-WD)3%/365

1st 200k 3%, you adjust accordingly
Accumulated returns yesterday RM2692.04

My interest today should be
= (200k x3%)/365 +{(1852k +33.8k + RM2692.04 - RM400)x2.25%}/365
=RM16.438 + RM116.389
=RM132.83

Expected returns today = RM2692.04 + 132.83 = RM2824.87
KDI returns--> RM2824.42??.

Earlier people thought RM0.45 cut was penalty/claw back for making withdrawals.

No , It is just being transferred to Nett Deposit.







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QUOTE(Yluxion @ Mar 29 2022, 07:39 PM)
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Any idea the supposed RM 0.45 return being transfer to Net Deposit? Was it partly due to your RM 400 withdrawal?

Could it be Kenanga fork out the extra RM 0.45, and transfer into your account as Net Deposit?
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Think first before you ask, some here are impatient and dont like repeats.

Of course it is due to the withdrawal, if not there won't be transfer rm0.45 from returns to nett deposit.

Rm0.45 is part of the interest today.didnt i show the calculation above? Not kenanga's money

If kenaga simply fork out extra everytime people withdraw bankrupt lo..
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QUOTE(Yluxion @ Mar 29 2022, 09:16 PM)
So do you know what is the reason that partial of the returns being moved to Net Deposit when withdrawal occurs? hmm.gif
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i dont know, is it important to know the real reason?? hmm.gif hmm.gif

not important as long as we don't lose out, capital same, interest earning same also.
kenanga system silly doing that can cause some to think kenanga cheat cut their interest..

another thing silly is kenanga profile only allow 1 bank account
causing me trouble now how to WD to multiple banks in 1 day.

i updated the bank account, received email instantly said bank acc updated- so i WD RM100 to bank A

i updated it again put bank B acc, again email came said acc updated - so i made another WD to bank B
this is misleading, actually it is not updated
because end of the day i received all RM100 x4 in bank D, the last update!


However the system is clever when i tested key in 1 wrong number, it knows and wont accept that bank acc.
But no use, what i need is instant updating and WD money paid to that account when WD order sent like in Phillip eUT.
I could WD to multiple different bank accounts within minutes in eUT.


Anybody can suggest how to do WD to multiple different bank accounts in 1 day?

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QUOTE(Zeroxhunter @ Mar 29 2022, 10:23 PM)
Why not just instant transfer from all bank accounts you have to the one you register in KDI? It's foc anyway.
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Mar 30 2022, 12:33 AM)
Bro use the old trick of wife, children account. That way you can keep up to say rm800k in there provided you have 2 children.
I think 4 account is more that enough for you? tongue.gif
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thanks for trying to help, perhaps i must make myself clearer to get better suggestion..

I want to withdraw RM 1.8M out fr my KDI Save to 4 diff bank accs all in 1 day.
RM800k B islam, 400k PBB, 300k MBB , 300k HLB all on 4.4.22
i tested with RM100 yesterday , tak jadi!

deposit masuk use 6 bank accounts also all accepted.
Withdraw out to 4 banks, why KDI can't make it easier?. ranting.gif



QUOTE(Yluxion @ Mar 30 2022, 12:10 AM)
My guess is Kenanga imposing such withdrawal limitation (1 single bank account withdrawal), might be to let them to have a better control of the funds' outflow within a business day.
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maybe, but it says WD no limit, luckily........... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(ericlaiys @ Mar 30 2022, 08:33 AM)
just withdraw from 1 account. then from there there transfer to 3 account. it is same and avoid fraud to multiple accounts. even other investments like stashaway, versa, fsm -all tie to 1 account. why make a complain that want 4 account in kdi?
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Disappointed you lack financial savviness. at least ask lah why, then you can learn.

Worse you acted like you have enough knowledge in SA, Versa, FSM. i have all that ok?

You are wrong and this is reason others get impatient as i need to correct wrong info.
See Versa 1 eg i have off hand.


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QUOTE(tadashi987 @ Mar 30 2022, 10:05 AM)
guys, discussion or reply lately seems to be getting hostile

as a thread starter my mere hope that we stay open/calm and remain courteous in all forms of discussion, just trying to avoid here becoming a toxic thread  sad.gif
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You tolerate people simply talk like they actually know but wrong rather then i correct them and put back in position?

Cant say this is toxic unless you only want low quality rambling without useful information for users

QUOTE(elea88 @ Mar 30 2022, 10:10 AM)
troublesome.. and it creates too many transactions in bank account.
i also got request CS to hv more bank account for withdrawal.

If they can few bank ac bank in.. so should hv the same few ac for withdrawal.
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More than just that, main reason is i need speed in moving money, one account cant move them all as there is limit

QUOTE(ericlaiys @ Mar 30 2022, 10:23 AM)
dude calm down. if you're unhappy. don't use kdi. no point complained in forum. write an official email or call kdi to make them listen to u.
Please divert your feedback to https://digitalinvesting.com.my/contact-us/
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See the tone you set, like reprimanded me , if you are right i accept, but not when you came in high handedly with wrong information. I am a reasonable person. Dint you think you need to be corrected when you are wrong?

QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Mar 30 2022, 10:34 AM)
can't help it.. Stashaway thread also have many toxic moments in it.

once it comes to money, some people can get quite emotional about it.
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This is not emotional, it is allergy to misinformation or worse those act pandai but kosong upstairs
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QUOTE(lovelyuser @ Mar 30 2022, 10:53 AM)
With the limitation of KDI right now, probably you have to give up few days of interest by spreading the withdrawal into 4 days, starting with smaller amout

1st day 300k HLB
2nd day 300k MBB
3rd day 400k PBB
4th day 800k BIslam

This is the best I can think of for you.
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This is an example of quality reply. Understand the question ,know why the question was asked and suggested logical solution, thanks
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QUOTE(lovelyuser @ Mar 30 2022, 12:26 PM)
I believe you already know this is the solution to it before asking, you just want to check if there's any better suggestion/solution, right?

I hope you already done the withdrawal this morning before 11am as today will be 1st day of 4 working days

You can max out your interest earning of another 50k on the last day, capitalize on the 50k FPX transfer of your B Islam
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i have not made any WD yet. My intention remain same
WD last day pump all to sspn by 5.4.22
Scenario changes we change accordingly lah.

I plan to use only Bank Islam now, reason FPX 500k a day, IBFT 80k
Fri 1.4.22 RM729k
Mon 4.4.22 RM580k
Tue 5.4.22 RM580k

unless there is better suggestion later on..i am open to change.

leave only 200k for 3% till month end move again.


QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Mar 30 2022, 01:04 PM)
may be logical but nobody knows for sure other than kenanga themselves.
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i like your "even after no facepalm for a month still the same = permanent brain damage"

Tested already can work, no need ask Kenanga. Dont assume CS always know, so many dumb workers around.

I am sure you have read in cc threads many times can see info from forumners more accurate than bank CS...
logical thing must accept with open heart.

QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Mar 30 2022, 01:43 PM)
but better if can withdraw all in a day. haha.
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YES, that is the best, But how to put all in to SPPNi ?
I only want to sit at home click click trf and FPX only.


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QUOTE(MUM @ Mar 28 2022, 02:56 PM)
KDI Save offers a promotional fixed return of 3.0% per annum for the first RM 200,000 in cash deposits made until 31 December 2022.
The rates for any placement above RM 200,000 would be 2.25% per annum.
https://kclau.com/investment/kdi-save-review/

So that 200k will get 3%,...what about those interest earned? Will only get 2.25%pa or 3%pa? (as it is not considered as cash deposit... But interest earned or will they consider interest earned as cash deposits too? ) 🤔🤔
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After checking statements and watching the figures displayed on making withdrawals....i think there is now indication showing KDI may still pay 3% interest beyond the first RM200k.....only for a certain portions of your interest.

Share with you guys 3 set of info,, those maths savvy can help decipher, it looks like above RM200k still can earn 3%....


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QUOTE(CQT @ Apr 20 2022, 11:19 PM)
KDI can't log in,anyone got alsuch issues? Had change password three time aldy still can't login
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website or apps?
i suspect is apps, you must not use saved email or PW, need to type out all.

QUOTE(ikanbilis @ Apr 20 2022, 11:35 PM)
I just log-in, no problem
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Apps or Website?
Website can accept saved email and PW

QUOTE(c64 @ Apr 20 2022, 11:36 PM)
Calculated a few times. as expected.
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above RM200k, it pays a little more than expected, not more than 3%,
but 3% for interest earned from 1st 200k and not 2.25%

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QUOTE(Medufsaid @ Apr 23 2022, 01:04 PM)
RM250 to lose RM10, market needs to drop 4%... i fear by the time you received KDI referral, market already drop that much sweat.gif
hopefully you already cashed out the RM250
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Yes it is possible, eg i entered RM1000 on 25.2.22 and yes it dropped 4.36% by 15.3.22(RM956.39). the RM10 cant cover also..


QUOTE(Medufsaid @ Apr 23 2022, 07:44 PM)
Merubin I "started" this yahoo finance simulation with $9358now it's $9k

user posted image

waiting to see if anyone will share their real results
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i have 5 accounts with different entry points.

19.2.22 - worst loss 2.75%(8.3.22) best gain 3.52%(30.3.22)
22.2.22 - worst loss 3.24%(10.3.22) best gain 3.49%(30.3.22)
25.2.22 - worst loss 4.36%(15.3.22) best gain 2.3%(30.3.22)
28.2.22 - worst loss 3.5%(15.3.22) best gain 3.26%(30.3.22)
2.3.22 - worst loss 3.2%(12.3.22) best gain 3.18%(5.4.22)
by today all of them have recovered and gain about 1%.

Aggresive seemed worse 1.3.22 RM9358 and now RM9037 = lost 3.43%???

Need similar portfolio entered 1.3.2022 to see if KDI invest real losing 3.43%
PS mine all growth.

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QUOTE(Medufsaid @ Apr 24 2022, 11:54 AM)
i think 1/2 of us here are only for KDI save (3% FD promo). anyway, if KDI invest has "so many takers", it means KDI is right in this business model
i think last monday or tuesday it was probably in the green, friday was a bloody day, one day alone already -1.6%

if really RM9358 (above the RM3k FOC management tariff) was invested, still need to deduct management fees.
also need to add back the dividend payouts (regardless of RM9358 or RM3000) as yahoo finance doesn't "readd" them back in
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can say most go in for the 3% daily interest
i reckon almost all would also allocate some in KDI invest for the referral RM10,
clever tricks from KDI, yet still not paying the RM10..
question is how long people stay in KDI invest, how good is the portfolio?
up down up down back down again...

at the end people will withdraw if like that.


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QUOTE(lovelyuser @ Apr 26 2022, 03:38 PM)
Two months manage to get RM 100 million of AUM with 6500 success sign up, that's average of RM 15.3k++ per account holder, not bad!
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i thought it would have been much more,
just wonder why those people with lots of money rather go FD and not here.
If they all moved in surely wont be just 100M


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