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Investment Kenanga Digital Investing (KDI), KDI Invest, KDI Save

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guy3288
post Apr 26 2022, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(Medufsaid @ Apr 26 2022, 05:23 PM)
not much publicity. i told my relative about the 3% KDI save last weekend and he said he never of it
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Many FD gangs know this ... trust deficit i would say.
They trust the bank . dont trust Kenanga with their money,
new lah etc all excuses..

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post Apr 27 2022, 12:35 AM

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QUOTE(tadashi987 @ Apr 26 2022, 06:11 PM)
true, i told my mum about this she question a lot e.g. safe or not ablabla, she still stick with the approach visiting different banks for best rate  smile.gif
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older gen understandable, like my mother FD also must have cert one, no cert dont wan.

but this KDI younger gen also scared scared to enter...
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post Apr 27 2022, 02:53 AM

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QUOTE(ericlaiys @ Apr 27 2022, 01:07 AM)
Younger gen look down on 3%. They want more and prefer bitcoin
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that is different kettle of fish, want high return go take high risk.
you cant expect the safe KDI 3% return to pull them in right?.

i was referring to another group attracted to KDI 3% but scared scared to enter.
i think this fear is excessive , how risky of losing money? compared to your bitcoins?

so my musing why lah KDI can only attract RM100million AUM so far,
?FD guys and those cash rich risk averse group dont trust their money with kenanga.
pulling in this group surely will double or tripple that 100M.

you get the point?
QUOTE(guy3288 @ Feb 22 2022, 09:18 PM)
if get 0% return is considered bad already, mana boleh capital pun hilang
so many things in life we do we dont ask for guarantee.
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Would you put 7 figure sum in it? I know you will easily reach 6 figures soon. If capital is pretty much secure, I would dare to put much more but had not so good experience with  money market fund .......................
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post Apr 27 2022, 09:06 PM

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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Apr 27 2022, 09:29 AM)
My KDI invest positive return 10. My own holdings in US all red. So far pleased with their balanced portfolio.
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positive return 10% so high?

My KDI Invest Growth now under water already.
Aggressive portfolio surely also same or worse.

If Balance portfolio so good gain 10%, we must switch liao...
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post Apr 28 2022, 02:11 AM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Apr 27 2022, 09:13 PM)
"Past returns are no indicator of future performance."
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sure we all must know this basic.. but if a class of portfolio doing well over a LONG period, when all others doing badly it mean something right? good portfolio as they say...

but here we are talking about a 2 month old portfolio, too "young" to qualify yet as "past return".

Actually i had doubted that balanced portfolio could earn 10% profit , if you get the drift in my post.


QUOTE(lovelyuser @ Apr 27 2022, 10:20 PM)
Be rational bro, the investment date is very crucial. Even though both are same portfolio, investment date plays an important element to determine return la
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i know that la bro.
you must remember everyone got excited straight away and we are jumped in.
all about same time, dont believe go back see the posts
if not why Davidctf's portfolio now underwater?
same same lah

And that day he didnt mean 10% profit also! i just pretend dont know
cucuk him abit to get the truth.


QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Apr 27 2022, 11:20 PM)
Lol just checked again.. Now -11. Not percent bro but RM.

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QUOTE(gchowyh @ Apr 28 2022, 12:18 AM)
I think you might have seen my nickname in FD thread & I was a staunch believer prior to last month & don't really dare to invest in shares or unit trusts.
But after knowing Kenanga, Touch n Go GO+ (at promo rates) & crypto savings, it is too hard to resist putting FD funds there.
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yeah i remember you, do u remember me ?. I am heavy in FD also, i have substantial amount at 4.85% till end 2023 BR FD.

all these other stuffs just play play only.
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post Apr 30 2022, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(mitodna @ Apr 30 2022, 01:34 PM)
Don't felt like investing now, just a personal opinion

The up down too much these day, one day 250.3, the next day withdrawal is 243.96 then finally showing withdrawal amount  248.10

The cash out for KDI save is same day if done before 11am working day, which is nice
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dont put too high hope of these things la.. cant earn much one, you can profit alot means you also can loss big..... just for the sake of diversity throw some lo.
more important is increase your earning power, active income, accumulate a mountain then you dont rely of these anymore,
wealth preservation cukup


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post May 2 2022, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(CoolStoryWriter @ May 2 2022, 02:59 PM)
Any comments on the US ETFs and when will it rebound? My counters are all red. Jesus not sure should DCA or not
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how can anyone know it i wonder.......perhaps you ask Ramjade see he is buying or not.
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post May 3 2022, 01:44 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ May 2 2022, 09:56 PM)
Why need to ask if I am buying? Of course I am buying. I love red market and the redder it is, the better. Because I can buy more stuff at a cheap price.

Never fear a red market.
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he was jesus unsure
need people to allay his fear.
who else better to ask
if not u who loves the beer


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post May 5 2022, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(runningdash @ May 4 2022, 05:28 PM)
Aggressive portfolio, 2.7k in during early April, now have negative -rm70 return.
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mine longer period than yours, also losing money same,
they say tunggu lama lama than only can see profit.....
wait and see lah.

oh and they say, buy more now.
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post May 5 2022, 07:52 PM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ May 5 2022, 04:24 PM)
siapa is "they"?
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takkan you never heard it here?

"......investment is long term, continue to buy ..."

QUOTE(ericlaiys @ May 5 2022, 04:37 PM)
this week fed interest rate increase. so dont expect it will go up. wait for it to cool down
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now down never mind, as long as years down the road it is up and better be good in annualised terms.
if end of 5 years gain only 15% that would be a measly 3% .

if by then still negative, sorry pick wrong horse oredi.
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post May 5 2022, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(runningdash @ May 5 2022, 08:38 PM)
I request withdrawal from kdi save on on 1st May and received confirmation email today around 4.30pm is successful. Normally by 6.30pm the money will reach bank, but today already 8.30pm money still no in yet. Anyone facing same issue?
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QUOTE(elea88 @ May 5 2022, 09:08 PM)
oh.. u better update us . but normally $ in for me like around 10pm like that.
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yes i have WD many times, usually received money by 7.00pm,
sometimes very early by 4.50-5.000pm

Today KDI teruk, so slow and late in paying out to us!

I made 4 WD 7.00am to 4 different banks,
Bank Rakyat received money by 7.00pm

MBB, CIMB and B Islam till now still no sight of the $$$,
hopefully can come in by 10.30pm in time to squeeze in to SSPN ..


Edit 1: 9.40pm CIMB Money in

Edit 2 -10.00pm MBB in
10.10 B Islam in
managed all pushed in to sspn i in time.

Still ok same night money cleared
QUOTE(elea88 @ May 5 2022, 09:07 PM)
5 yrs can be +65% but then u know la. kita long term kan.. then after that start drop drop
sure think add add become -ve.

This is me.. so its KISAH BENAR.
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Anyone who has invested in this LONG enough knows it very well...
happy only when see it climbing up. usuallly rather so slowly with abit of down, up down up back
but when crashing down it is like no warning at all and so fast...
all can be back to square one or even negative.

Make money 10% , 15% we declare our success
Lose money we quietly forget it
what is there to declare unless want people to laugh at us , dont know how to invest ?

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post May 9 2022, 12:18 AM

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2.5 months fluctuation showing now at the lowest again, the 2nd time , just whacked RM1k each hopefully wont suddenly shoot up next few days...
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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ May 9 2022, 11:22 AM)
I wacked 1k for KDI invest last week also when the market fell sharply.. hope will gain from it.
now total at 2.2k.. will wait another good time to deposit the remaining few hundred.
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MY original KDI Invest GROWTH RM1000 was at RM972.57 as at 9.5.2022

I topped up RM1000 9.5.22 early morning, hoping to improve it, but today noted total value RM1956.59 , it is even worse
Not sure is my original 1k went down further or the new add in RM1k kena chop.

How is yours?

QUOTE(4eyeco @ May 10 2022, 05:18 PM)
i test to withdraw from KDI save this morning, around 9am.

I have just received email from KDI saying that my withdrawal is successful. But when I check my bank acc, I dont see it.
How long will it take to reach my bank acc? Anyone tried withdrawing before? Can share the rough time taken?
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usually money in around 7.00pm, only once very early by 5,00pm,
occasionally late till 10.10pm.
But once i kena money only came in next day!
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QUOTE(ericlaiys @ May 10 2022, 10:31 PM)
Market down again. Right now it risk as market continue down, then lose more
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only hoping new deposit get to buy cheaper, bythe time initial deposit recovers this would make money .


QUOTE(Medufsaid @ May 11 2022, 08:21 AM)
until today KDI only gives detailed transaction by the end of month right?
market dropped a lot on May 9. by May 10th 4am market close, there's a 2% drop, so RM956 is plausible. then addon the RM1k you deposited
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that means my new deposit RM1000 did not lose money yet, best part it gets to buy ETF at cheaper prices right?
Any idea when is the actual buy in ETF effective? how many days later from our deposit day?
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post May 12 2022, 08:52 PM

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3 months playing KDI save, trying to make some sense out of its numbers...


1)Everytime you withdraw/WD some money, a portion is removed from  your  accumulated interest/returns,
sent to  your capital/Nett deposit

the bigger the  WD  the bigger cut it will send to Nett Deposit

after making 11 withdrawals, my returns dropped down to RM 1249.84 today.
if not it should be RM5877.79.

2)Why KDI must remove some money from your accumulated interest?

Below 200k no reason really, as all returns should earn 3%, i dont know.

Above 200k, i think because it wants to reduce the returns portion that earn 2.25%.
After many WDs, finally it comes to  remaining returns left  all earning 3%
even if you are at RM200k and above.

see my simulation WD for 2 accounts



3)Someone asked above RM200k would my  interest still earn 3%?

The answer seem YES ,looking from my simulation WD attached.

But not all your accumulated interest, only a portion of them.

How KDI decided that out of my total returns of RM5877.79
only RM1249.84 would be entitled for 3% is a mystery.
(Every time i WD, i make sure i dont touch the portion that earn 3%.)

My wife's  smaller account with accumulated returns of RM3187.48
has  RM1309.94 portion entitled for the 3%.

I could be totally wrong in my interpretation,
feel free to share your views.
Need more data, i can share them.




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QUOTE(ericlaiys @ May 12 2022, 09:47 PM)
I also tested withdraw and saw 3% and 2.25%. Strange. Why withdraw should display interest?
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it is to tell us "dont withdraw that portion that gives 3%........"
and that's is how i used it so far,
reduce the amount to withdraw,
go withdraw the balance from another account..
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QUOTE(rocketm @ May 13 2022, 06:23 PM)
Just curious, where is the 2.25% come from?
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yes, 3% only for first RM200k, beyond that supposed to get only 2.25%
but in reality not quite so
as i have shown above.

in fact after that "threshold" (RM201,249.84 and RM201,309.94 in above 2 eg)
the amount that can continue to earn 3% rate seem continue to rise everyday!

Just where is the cut off limit that KDI will start using the 2.25% rate
for my above 2 accounts is a wonder...

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QUOTE(Medufsaid @ May 14 2022, 10:03 AM)
knowing KDI, cannot ignore the possibility that they got a software bug. forgot to auto-cutoff the promo rate for any amount after RM200k
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if software bug, shouldn't the 3% be applied to bigger amount?

it seems to me only applied to returns earned from 1st 200k,
200k x 3% in ~3 months
just around there 1249 and 1309 i think..


QUOTE(lovelyuser @ May 14 2022, 11:28 AM)
The bottom line is, I occasionally double check the total account value with 3% for 200k and 2.25% on the remaining balance, it does tally and sometimes few cents better, heheheh
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i believe you also have a portion above 200k that earns 3%

use my method above, simulate a test withdraw all amount above RM200k.

There you can see it.

Note:Today KDI Save returns no update so late already.
KDI Invest updated pulak...

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post May 18 2022, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(lovelyuser @ May 18 2022, 10:17 AM)
I figured it out how they calculate the interest rate for KDI Save when your total value above 200k

3% on return, regardless how much is your total value

1st 200k of Net Deposit at 3%
Subsequent amount of Net Depsoit at 2.25%

With that, if your Net Deposit at 200k, return let say 10k, you will still get 3% on total value of RM 210k
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This is not so straight forward,earlier when i had way above RM200k time, the returns dont all get 3%
now after i made many WDs the return is all getting 3% and it increases daily..

My speculation- all returns from 1st 200k deposit only will get 3%

if you put 1 million 2millions the returns from that only get 2.25%


QUOTE(MUM @ May 18 2022, 10:22 AM)
What about when you hv 210k?
All 210k will get 3%,
Or 200k will get 3%, while the balance will get 2.25%

Isn't it puzzling when
"3% on return, regardless how much is your total value"
Then hv this again?

"1st 200k of Net Deposit at 3%
Subsequent amount of Net Depsoit at 2.25%"
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the answer is already there above, see how i found it out
rather than asking us,
you can find out you yourself
by following my simulation WD mentioned above.


QUOTE(lovelyuser @ May 18 2022, 10:48 AM)
Is your total value more than 200k?

If yes, do you mind share the screenshot and I explain from there.
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screenshot for u not enough, it wont show.
must simulate WD and screenshot that

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QUOTE(MUM @ May 18 2022, 01:53 PM)
I think it had been mentioned on kdi save that
below 200k is 3%, above it is 2.25%
That is why I am puzzled by his post and seeking his confirmation.
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Aiyo, go read post 1067 and 1075 la
slowly look at the screenshot to understand the meaning there.
and then
you can check your own KDI see for your self ,a certain amount above RM200k is also paid 3% .



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