reliable or not they will still wear and tear over time.
our hot climate and traffic congestion will increase this factor.

turbo cars will incur extra maintenance and its not cheap if you need to replace the snail.

but the feeling when a high boost turbo kicks in is hhggggggnnnn.

3 cylinder sucks lah.

No avoiding idling vibration.

year 2022, still need to play with 3 cylinder for what? 4 cyclinder solves all problem. No problem, go invent problem. Just farking stick with 4 cylinder, this applies to everyone else.

problem is no matter how much stuff or balancing shaft u add to ease the vibration
3 pot is still 3 pot, it's not balance
the balancing shaft only prevents the vibration from reaching the cabin/driver only
sooner or later, weird noises are going to come out

look at out viva, kenari, kelisa...the belting noise is infamous

noise that a normal 4 cylinder engine will never have

You mean honda does not provide servicing of the actual Turbo unit??

got 3 pots lesser weight, better fuel consumption than 4cyl

kancil, kancil!

dun leave out kancil the most famous of all for noise and whatnot!

Exactly. Is 3 cylinder really save so much cost that they have to waste so much effort on balancing this shit?

sounds coming from 4 pots > better fuel consumption from 3 cyl bikes...

true story... hngghhhhh....

This post has been edited by arcadicus: Feb 16 2022, 10:46 AM

Why slap own face? Article say market is the one rejecting it.
Chinese market maybe cannot accept it, but at one point major market don't want to accept turbo anyway.

but if engine breakdown like that then it's design/manufacturing issues. My kelisa 3 cylinder engine never had problems like that for 19 years now.

3 cylinder 1.5 liter actually makes sense because 500cc undersquare combustion chambers are the most efficient in fuel consumption. Pity the market didn't like

what belt noise? never had that

probably lazy owners didn't even change worn belts

Bmw has dumped the b38 on the 318i that was used on the f30 3 series

Now the g20 3 series 318i also use the b48 engine as 320i except detuned for less power

They use the b38 for the smaller 1 series only

This post has been edited by Boy96: Feb 16 2022, 10:49 AM

Well i agree. I still think 3 cyc is a no go.
When u add in the balance shaft, it already defeats the purpose of having a light engine

German 3 cylinder: German quality is good
Japan 3 cylinder: Japan quality is reliable
China 3 cylinder: No quality coz it's CCP

Same same but different......

everyone 3cyl 4cyl here n there .. few more years all EV.

which manufacturer have actually?
because i've never seen before

even those japanese pickup truck turbo also drive until fail thn change recond one

preve owner, only a small percentage take it to outside turbo specialist to be serviced...most don't


and if those parts fail, it's not cheap either


whenever u drive beside a 3 pot car, there is always some weird noise coming from them
the most infamous one is belting noise...which is unresolvable(at least in the long term)

changed it, tighten it....it still comes back...mine is somemore japanese car
that's why i promise myself not to go back to 3 pot engine

it's only fine for the 1st 5 years, after that....problems and sound started to come out that even my 14 years old proton saga don't have

i mean it's reliable, it never breaks down on me but there is just things that 3 pot engine cannot beat 4 in-line

all my latest purchase are all 4 in-line engine...no means no for me

cant agree more,

physic > ALL

i own a few 3 pot cars before and never had any noise related to the belt.
sure there noise everywhere when idling or at low rpm but tat comes with the territory of owning a 3 pot car.

could be the problem is unique to you or you got better hearing than most
anyway i agree 4 pot engines is the way to go for comfort.
if anyone has driven an inline 6 before they would know its even much, much smoother.

and yeah turbo maintenance is non existent here.
seal and bearings need to be replaced.

many do no know a turbocharger spins in excess of 100k rpm thus will wear and tear faster than other parts of the car.

Ativa 1.0 3 cylinder turbo also is not vibration free.
Wish it has the 1.5NA that Myvi has.

is this a marketing decision or engineering decision?