i don't like 3 pots too
they don't last long at all before started having problems

trying come back here and comment after 5 years
see if there is any problems or weird noises
i can guarantee u that u will say u have

mine is japanese car somemore and i also have...they don't last long at all
meanwhile my proton saga 14 years old soon, no such noises

TLDR : 4 cylinder > 3 pot anytime

actually there are 3 things that owners should be worried about in the X50/X70
which is the reason why i won't recommend anyone to buy

the 3 pot engine, the turbochargers and the DCT

the same goes to perodua and other manufacturer as well(not just proton)

reliable or not is 1 thing
but almost no owner service the turbo

yes, turbo need servicing too and manufacturer do not provide such service
which leads to turbo failure

think of the turbo as another engine, another wear and tear, another part of the car that requires your maintenance and your care
which means another money burning parts

This post has been edited by MR_alien: Feb 16 2022, 10:41 AM

problem is no matter how much stuff or balancing shaft u add to ease the vibration
3 pot is still 3 pot, it's not balance
the balancing shaft only prevents the vibration from reaching the cabin/driver only
sooner or later, weird noises are going to come out

look at out viva, kenari, kelisa...the belting noise is infamous

noise that a normal 4 cylinder engine will never have

which manufacturer have actually?
because i've never seen before

even those japanese pickup truck turbo also drive until fail thn change recond one

preve owner, only a small percentage take it to outside turbo specialist to be serviced...most don't


and if those parts fail, it's not cheap either


whenever u drive beside a 3 pot car, there is always some weird noise coming from them
the most infamous one is belting noise...which is unresolvable(at least in the long term)

changed it, tighten it....it still comes back...mine is somemore japanese car
that's why i promise myself not to go back to 3 pot engine

it's only fine for the 1st 5 years, after that....problems and sound started to come out that even my 14 years old proton saga don't have

i mean it's reliable, it never breaks down on me but there is just things that 3 pot engine cannot beat 4 in-line

all my latest purchase are all 4 in-line engine...no means no for me

not sure
mine is sometime start car have noise, when the a/c compressor work sometime there is belt noise
when accelerate the car at the same time as the a/c compressor doing it's job...also will have belting noise

thn after owning this car, i notice i'm not the only one facing this problem
and all of the car that is facing such problem are all 3 pot engine car

i will never see a 4 in-line engine car have this noise at all

there is no luck
for the 18 or so year dealing with proton

from driving my dad's proton waja to owning my own 14 years proton saga

i can indefinitely tell u, when people say proton/campro sucks...it's user problem...not product problem
they don't even take care of the car at all
i cannot tell u how many time i checked their engine....no or lack of engine oil, no coolant or use water, no transmission oil
proton themselves actually resolved their power window issue like 13 years ago already, my saga suffered the problem on the 1st year...thn they switch supplier...i went to SC and claimed mine...it has been the same switch since then(13 years until now)

the gear icon indicates the transmission is overheating....my saga uses 4AT so i can't answer that
but i do have another CVT car but never suffered this issue before since i don't drive it like a mad man

the proton that last isn't that car is better built, it's because the owner took care of it

people kept saying perodua last....well, kinda...it depends on how the owner took care of it as well
recently buying used car, checked multiple perodua cars that suffered the same problem i mentioned above too
no engine oil, no coolant or simply use water, low on transmission oil or never change before(can see from the colour)
the car still running but for how long though...i straight walked away, i don't dare to buy such car

if it's on the moment the car is started
thn u better get it checked out at the SC
small problem can turn to big

because those that i saw gear icon lit up are those when their cars already warmed up
like stuck in traffic or in the midst of cruising on highway

never i've heard it lit up once the car is started
did u check if there is even fluid inside?

bolded part felt straight to the heart

offer price is basically market price
went and check the car...so much problem....1 even need a full body knock and repaint
and he still wouldn't budge on the price and kept saying that's the market price for the car

i'm there like come on, the market price is if the car is in mint condition, taken care of...i have no problem paying the price if it is
but not when i need to pour so much $$$ in like it's a total makeover

what more can u say about UMW?
they only recently release the camry with 2.5L dynamic force engine with 8AT which thailand has been driving for 3-4 years already

poor sales i would say is due to many reason
but 1 of them is UMW pushing the prices way too high

i don't think it's about profit already
it's malaysia side is always slow in everything
i think when a new model is released, our brand here need months to discuss what spec to cut away before releasing it here

just look at honda, everything also slow
our neighboring countries already driving it for months, thn only release here
from the new civic to city hatchback
now the new HRV and BRV also...they even covered it up like it's something new (and that's SUV that u mentioned)

high chance the e:HEV model won't even be released here

excuse only when thailand and indon both already released it
the one that is in the middle didn't get it

guarantee faster than UMW
honda is like 6 months slow
UMW is like 3-4 years slow and then cut kaw kaw the spec