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 We don't clean up non Muslim house of worship

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chilskater
post Dec 30 2021, 08:09 PM

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he has leak video having ahem..wit young girls...these kind of pipel normally has two wives.. old fag & young girls..
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post Dec 30 2021, 08:10 PM

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Pfft..this guy married young wimmenz instead of janda ada anak or balu..he just another penunggang.. oh wai!
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post Dec 30 2021, 08:11 PM

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post Dec 30 2021, 08:15 PM

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QUOTE(differ @ Dec 30 2021, 07:50 PM)
Problem is made worse when none of the ruling party has the balls or spine to call out such racism and bigotry.
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Actually, I also kecut bola to talk open
Only kopitiam I warrior
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post Dec 30 2021, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(chilskater @ Dec 30 2021, 08:09 PM)
he has leak video having ahem..wit young girls...these kind of pipel normally has two wives.. old fag & young girls..
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Really? Lol I knew it this kind of pubemouth preacher are good for nothing.
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post Dec 30 2021, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(pureawesomeness @ Dec 30 2021, 05:47 PM)
So what. Will you go clean a mosque or temple? No you just lie in bed post articles.
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The person mentioned is from a position with influence and power. That makes the difference

This post has been edited by viktorherald: Dec 30 2021, 08:18 PM
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post Dec 30 2021, 08:18 PM

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post Dec 30 2021, 08:20 PM

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He is the idiot that claimed his eczema was cured by taking deworming tablets.
And he ain’t no skin doctor nor does it look like much of a preacher.
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post Dec 30 2021, 08:22 PM

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He can be cleansed in hell....
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post Dec 30 2021, 08:30 PM

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post Dec 30 2021, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(Forumer Bertaraf Menteri @ Dec 30 2021, 08:14 PM)
ahhh...maybe u the one with prejudice and pubemouth. u should 14th floor to clean ur mind.
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why you 1 day pray 5 times, mouth still so busuk one
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post Dec 30 2021, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(chilskater @ Dec 30 2021, 08:09 PM)
he has leak video having ahem..wit young girls...these kind of pipel normally has two wives.. old fag & young girls..
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Please don't go make fitnah ok. The young girl is supposed to be his youngest wife.
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post Dec 30 2021, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(maxpudding @ Dec 30 2021, 07:48 PM)
You are shifting the goalposts and that issue is entirely different than this

But to answer your question, no he will not encourage that lifestyle, but he won’t condemn them like what some people are doing now, he would encourage muslims to pray for them, and do charitable works that might help everyone, even for those LGBT people
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thats my point. it depends on the context. just because its good does not always mean you have to do it. you have to draw a line.

QUOTE(leftycall9 @ Dec 30 2021, 07:48 PM)
Same sex marriage is a sin. How is it comparable to Muslims who helped cleaning other worship places after flood like this?
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syirik (idoltary) is the biggest sin. even bigger sin than homosexuality. 80% of the quran warns about syirik.

its understandable if many muslims are sensitive against this issue.


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post Dec 30 2021, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(OrangCacat @ Dec 30 2021, 08:31 PM)
why you 1 day pray 5 times, mouth still so busuk one
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why u assume me pray 5 times? u also mudah keliru is it?
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post Dec 30 2021, 08:43 PM

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QUOTE(Azran1979 @ Dec 30 2021, 08:36 PM)
thats my point. it depends on the context. just because its good does not always mean you have to do it. you have to draw a line.
syirik (idoltary) is the biggest sin. even bigger sin than homosexuality. 80% of the quran warns about syirik.

its understandable if many muslims are sensitive against this issue.
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They just tolong cuci je. Bukan ikut sekali sembahyang kat situ or convert terus. If their intentions are just to help,well I don't see anything wrong with it neither should we being so judgemental about whole situation. Now is difficult time for those who are affected by the flood events. Everyone need the help they could get.
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post Dec 30 2021, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(Forumer Bertaraf Menteri @ Dec 30 2021, 09:42 PM)
why u assume me pray 5 times? u also mudah keliru is it?
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Chill bro, no need every argument also want to win.
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post Dec 30 2021, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(OrangCacat @ Dec 30 2021, 08:44 PM)
Chill bro, no need every argument also want to win.
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ok. gip u oku kad to use now.
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post Dec 30 2021, 08:45 PM

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QUOTE(Azran1979 @ Dec 30 2021, 07:16 PM)
the ustaz have a point though. you need to look at the whole speech.

in his words, the is a hadith where muhammad shows cleaning up the mosque is an honourable thing to do.

so from this hadith, the ulamas conjectured that cleaning up other worship house is akin to honouring the other religion. hence it reaches "syirik" (polytheism).

furthermore, there is no pressing necessity to clean up other worship house.

this is what i think. but the ustaz maybe forgot this polemic started in the midst and context of flood disaster. so maybe other muftis can detail and outline the fatwa needed.
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Ak tak paham lar melayu Islam nih.

Kalau bab looting kedai, laju jer cakap darurat lar bagai. Nak selamatkan nyawa bagai.

Bila bab muafakat, semua nak jadi lagi alim. Tau tak baitul maqdis seblum pembebasan tempat tu rumah ibadat jews? Tu lar kiblat pertama org Islam dan Bila kita tukar kiblat ke kaabah, Nabi tak pernah downgrade nilai Baitul maqdis.

Kita bersih kn rumah ibadat org lain atas sbb muafakat. Kita nak balas jasa sbb masa kita susah, tmpat2 ni banyak bagi manfaat kpd umat.

Kalau ustadz bingai ni nak main petik had is lepas tu quote out of context, dia boleh pegi jahanam.

Kalau budak umur 11 tahun ak boleh maafkan tp ni umur Tua dah nak mampus pun tak leh hidup harmoni dgn komuniti.
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post Dec 30 2021, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(Azran1979 @ Dec 30 2021, 08:36 PM)
thats my point. it depends on the context. just because its good does not always mean you have to do it. you have to draw a line.
syirik (idoltary) is the biggest sin. even bigger sin than homosexuality. 80% of the quran warns about syirik.

its understandable if many muslims are sensitive against this issue.
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Bersihkan rumah ibadat org bukan Islam mana jatuh syirik oiiiii.

Syirik ni kata dasar di syaraka atau bm dia lebih dari satu.

Camner ko pegang mop kat kuil atau gereja tetiba jadi perbuatan menyekutukan Allah?

Jangan membingaikan akal fikiran.
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post Dec 30 2021, 08:50 PM

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Indah dan mulianya aga..... ohhwaiit 😂

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