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 We don't clean up non Muslim house of worship

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post Dec 30 2021, 08:54 PM

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Mufti Penang has made a statement is ok to clean temple.
And obviously he has higher authority...

This post has been edited by biggie: Dec 30 2021, 08:58 PM
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post Dec 30 2021, 08:58 PM

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His will suffer in hell
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post Dec 30 2021, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(biggie @ Dec 30 2021, 08:54 PM)
Mufti Penang has made a statement is ok to clean temple.
And obviously he has higher authority...
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post Dec 30 2021, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(Randomization @ Dec 30 2021, 06:14 PM)
It's people like him that is destroying our country.
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You dont say the obvious lol from pissing to eating to taking a dump must always get clearance .

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bani_prime
post Dec 30 2021, 09:07 PM

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The problem with islamic education there is no quality control.
Its like everyone also can talk islam, even celebrities also can become ustaz.
Sadly, even sekolah pondok is out of monitoring

If there is no monitoring, no quality control, how to expect those islam learner got the real message of islam

So jadilah kes mcm minum kencing unta, even thought the hadith is simply a history record. Then democracy haram, western knowledge haram, bankharam, tax haram, etc


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post Dec 30 2021, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Dec 30 2021, 07:37 PM)
this guy kena tembak on social media from every direction because of this comment
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Got any link? I believe there more brainwashed then those who can deduce the scenario and action.
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post Dec 30 2021, 09:13 PM

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Sebab orang lain haram pengotor..dia je suci murni...
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post Dec 30 2021, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(bani_prime @ Dec 30 2021, 09:07 PM)
The problem with islamic education there is no quality control.
Its like everyone also can talk islam, even celebrities also can become ustaz.
Sadly, even sekolah pondok is out of monitoring

If there is no monitoring, no quality control, how to expect those islam learner got the real message of islam

So jadilah kes mcm minum kencing unta, even thought the hadith is simply a history record. Then democracy haram, western knowledge haram, bankharam, tax haram, etc
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"The real message is Islam" is very subjective. Even the shi'ah think they are upholding the real message is Islam. Even your version of the real message of Islam may not be the same as some scholar's.
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post Dec 30 2021, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(lordgamer3 @ Dec 30 2021, 09:10 PM)
Got any link? I believe there more brainwashed then those who can deduce the scenario and action.
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i only saw it yesterday when scrolling instagram only
i didn't save it
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post Dec 30 2021, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(hioniq @ Dec 30 2021, 05:45 PM)
I truly hate this kind of preacher, shd throw one into jail as warning to others

https://www.thevibes.com/articles/news/5084...k-from-netizens

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pas ni memang pengecut,
apa-apa pun takut,

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post Dec 30 2021, 09:18 PM

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Well, technically it makes sense, if you are worshipping a different god, or the devil.

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bani_prime
post Dec 30 2021, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(estacado @ Dec 30 2021, 09:14 PM)
"The real message is Islam" is very subjective. Even the shi'ah think they are upholding the real message is Islam. Even your version of the real message of Islam may not be the same as some scholar's.
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No comment. everyone can say that as third party
its like saying , soya is good for heart, soya is not good for heart
for those dont understand statiistic n research of course will find this statement confusing, n unsure which is the true
but for those understand statistic n research, the knowledge can give them a definitie answer which is true
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post Dec 30 2021, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(bani_prime @ Dec 30 2021, 09:07 PM)
The problem with islamic education there is no quality control.
Its like everyone also can talk islam, even celebrities also can become ustaz.
Sadly, even sekolah pondok is out of monitoring

If there is no monitoring, no quality control, how to expect those islam learner got the real message of islam

So jadilah kes mcm minum kencing unta, even thought the hadith is simply a history record. Then democracy haram, western knowledge haram, bankharam, tax haram, etc
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What you said is only partly true, no quality control in Islamic education. But this is caused largely by the fact that Islam itself can be rendered in many versions, many interpretations, pick one emphasis that suits you, and interpret the rest to suit this set of doctrines.

Take your own example of kes minum kencing unta in Hadith, to you you brushed it aside as a historical oddity, to others it is a medicinal advice given by the prophet that is still applicable.
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post Dec 30 2021, 09:22 PM

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confirm soon to be nuked and some will get SUS tag
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post Dec 30 2021, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Dec 30 2021, 06:01 PM)
janggut tu,.. confirm taliban,,,...
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how many lipot have u gotten
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post Dec 30 2021, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(Spear2 @ Dec 30 2021, 09:21 PM)
What you said is only partly true, no quality control in Islamic education. But this is caused largely by the fact that Islam itself can be rendered in many versions, many interpretations, pick one emphasis that suits you, and interpret the rest to suit this set of doctrines.

Take your own example of kes minum kencing unta in Hadith, to you you brushed it aside as a historical oddity, to others it is a medicinal advice given by the prophet that is still applicable.
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that s why we need to go depth into methodology. methodology will determine its truthfulness

just like science too...soya is good for heart , soya is bad for heart . which statement is truth.
to determine the truth , u just gonnna go into methodology of science, study the data collection, study how it is analysis. If there is faulty . u will know

saying that everyone has version of islam , is similarly like those who know nothing about science, statistic,d ata collection to determine the truthfullnss of the matter
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post Dec 30 2021, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(Strike Eureka @ Dec 30 2021, 08:50 PM)
Indah dan mulianya aga..... ohhwaiit 😂

cc: ry8128
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Kelakarnya aga..... oh waittttt laugh.gif
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post Dec 30 2021, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(yugimudo @ Dec 30 2021, 08:49 PM)
Bersihkan rumah ibadat org bukan Islam mana jatuh syirik oiiiii.

Syirik ni kata dasar di syaraka atau bm dia lebih dari satu.

Camner ko pegang mop kat kuil atau gereja tetiba jadi perbuatan menyekutukan Allah?

Jangan membingaikan akal fikiran.
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Pegang mop sapu kuil auto murtad kot utk dia

Takpala biar puak2 tu rasa macam diri dorang tak kuat pegang agama, sbb bila benda2 mcm ni terus nak petik dalil tu dalil ni utk kuatkan justifikasi tak nak tolong non muslim

Luckily I don’t subscribe to that kind of Islam
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post Dec 30 2021, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(bani_prime @ Dec 30 2021, 09:25 PM)
that s why we need to go depth into methodology. methodology will determine its truthfulness

just like science too...soya is good for heart , soya is bad for heart . which statement is truth.
to determine the truth , u just gonnna go into methodology of science, study the data collection, study how it is analysis. If there is faulty . u will know

saying that everyone has version of islam , is similarly like those who know nothing about science, statistic,d ata collection to determine the truthfullnss of the matter
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I am sure I am not the only one to observe the sectarianism of Islam, even religious and secular scholars disagree on major points that span light years from the study of soya. Your religion diverges over time but the scientific study of soya converges as more data is made available.

So how does your version work when others could not? What methodology to determine truthfulness that other proponents are not aware of?
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post Dec 30 2021, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(yugimudo @ Dec 30 2021, 08:49 PM)
Bersihkan rumah ibadat org bukan Islam mana jatuh syirik oiiiii.

Syirik ni kata dasar di syaraka atau bm dia lebih dari satu.

Camner ko pegang mop kat kuil atau gereja tetiba jadi perbuatan menyekutukan Allah?

Jangan membingaikan akal fikiran.
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kalau begitu kenapa perlunya wujud perbankan islam?

tahukah kamu secara jelas Allah perintahkan manusia memerangi riba?

Allah juga memerintahkan manusia menjauhi zina.

sedangkan menjual arak pun diharamkan syarak, apa lagi membersihkan kuil?

setiap fatwa atau hukum yang kamu keluarkan itu menimbulkan implikasinya yang tersendiri.

mufti pun perlu musyawarah bila nak keluarkan fatwa.

tapi kalau mufti pun kamu tolak, then i rest my case.

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