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ChcGamer
post Sep 20 2007, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 20 2007, 03:04 PM)
i can pull over 1k dps over a 5min sustained fight during my kara days while having even few blue items remaining on my item slots (lol assassination dungeon items)

and im pulling hate easily from time to time with ~800 TPS
if ur doing as much dmg as i am, ur guaranteed to pull aggro and die as tanks in kara lvl yields around 700-1.1k TPS MAX over a 5min sustained. difference is i have vanish, you dont.

my point? your rogues cant mutilate properly letting an enh sham overtaking them.
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Yeah maybe gear does somehow influence my judgement. When my guild down Gruul, we have well geared combat rogues(Full kara epic+2 arena weapons) while my muti rogue isnt that well gear. He is still wearing some blues but his weapons are prince dagger and scryer dagger. I on the other hand is considered one of the most well geared enha shaman compared to other shaman friends in my server because they arent allowed to raid as enha

Probably this is why my DPS is higher than my muti rogue friends. Our rogues are smart enough not to pull hate from tanks because Gruul top 2 threat needs to be warriors so we had to let them gain threat 1st. We also spend some time bandaging ourselves after Gruul does his rock thingy(i forgot name) therefore allowing our tanks to hold more threat

My point isnt to say my rogues arent mutilating properly that is why i overtake them. I was trying to tell you guys that WF is the ideal totem for most of the encounters. Although i stopped playing i still have contacts with people in my server both ingame and real life which is why i can strongly say WF > GoA

Kurei had explained very well how WF is better than GoA in most cases. I also said if your raid consists of only muti rogues then go ahead with GoA. The only thing is i havent heard of any good rogues in my server spec muti and raid
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post Sep 20 2007, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(ChcGamer @ Sep 20 2007, 03:17 PM)
Yeah maybe gear does somehow influence my judgement. When my guild down Gruul, we have well geared combat rogues(Full kara epic+2 arena weapons) while my muti rogue isnt that well gear. He is still wearing some blues but his weapons are prince dagger and scryer dagger. I on the other hand is considered one of the most well geared enha shaman compared to other shaman friends in my server because they arent allowed to raid as enha

Probably this is why my DPS is higher than my muti rogue friends. Our rogues are smart enough not to pull hate from tanks because Gruul top 2 threat needs to be warriors so we had to let them gain threat 1st. We also spend some time bandaging ourselves after Gruul does his rock thingy(i forgot name) therefore allowing our tanks to hold more threat

My point isnt to say my rogues arent mutilating properly that is why i overtake them. I was trying to tell you guys that WF is the ideal totem for most of the encounters. Although i stopped playing i still have contacts with people in my server both ingame and real life which is why i can strongly say WF > GoA

Kurei had explained very well how WF is better than GoA in most cases. I also said if your raid consists of only muti rogues then go ahead with GoA. The only thing is i havent heard of any good rogues in my server spec muti and raid
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he needs to get either a slow offhand (which prioritizes on mutilate dmg) or a fast offhand (which prioritizes on white dmg and weapon procs like mongoose and poisons), not something crappy in between: scryer dagger

well the way you written the post and the tone of it does suggest that since you mentioned you outdps the muti rogues as enh and enh isnt exacly good quality dps as there are many factors hindering them from performing. (eg: no vanish, bad itemization etc)

again bear in mind im in no way making a statement that agi is better than wf, just merely pointing out agi is better than wf in certain situations (eg: muti rogues or hunters being in groups) and even ray pointed out a better compromise to have BOTH totems up. try lurking around rogue forums, as there are rogues yielding very incredible results on 2k++ DPS over 5min sustained, and some even over topping combat daggers/swords rogues.
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post Sep 20 2007, 04:53 PM

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Quaza is muti rogue supporter. Down with him!
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post Sep 20 2007, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(Kurei @ Sep 20 2007, 04:53 PM)
Quaza is muti rogue supporter. Down with him!
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post Sep 20 2007, 07:54 PM

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This is from EJ forums:

- If in tank group (resto shaman)
GoA for the dodge.

- If in melee DPS group (enh shaman), does the group have a fury warrior?
- Yes: Windfury
- No: GoA
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post Sep 21 2007, 02:34 AM

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post Sep 21 2007, 04:49 AM

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