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Honours

Premiership (13): 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2003, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2011, 2013
Division One Champions (7): 1908, 1911, 1952, 1956, 1957, 1965, 1967
Division Two Champions (2): 1936, 1975

European Cup/UEFA Champions League (3): 1968, 1999, 2008
UEFA Europa League (1): 2017
European Cup-Winners' Cup (1): 1991
European Super Cup (1): 1991

FA Charity/Community Shield (21 (17 outright, 4 shared)): 1908, 1911, 1952, 1956, 1957, 1965*, 1967*, 1977*, 1983, 1990*, 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2007, 2008, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2016 (* = joint holders)
FA Cup Winners (12): 1909, 1948, 1963, 1977, 1983, 1985, 1990, 1994, 1996, 1999, 2004, 2016
League Cup Winners (5): 1992, 2006, 2009, 2010, 2017

Toyota Inter-Continental Cup Winners (1): 1999
FIFA Club World Cup (1): 2008

Managers

A. H. Albut [1892 - 1900]
James West [1900 - September 1903]
Ernest Magnall [10 October 1903 - 9 September 1912]
T. J. Wallworth [9 September 1912 - 20 October 1912]
John Bentley [28 October 1912 - 28 December 1914]
John Robson [28 December 1914 - 31 October 1921]
John Chapman [31 October 1921 - 8 October 1926]
Clarence Hildrith [8 October 1926 - 13 April 1927]
Herbert Bamlett [13 April 1927 - 9 November 1931]
Walter Crickmer [9 November 1931 - 13 July 1932]
Scott Duncan [13 July 1932 - 7 November 1937]
Walter Crickmer [9 November 1937 - 15 February 1945]
Matt Busby [1 October 1945 - 11 June 1969]
Jimmy Murphy [February 1958 - June 1958]
Wilf McGuinness [11 June 1969 - 29 December 1970]
Matt Busby [29 December 1970 - 8 June 1971]
Frank O'Farrell [8 June 1971 - 19 December 1972]
Tommy Docherty [22 December 1972 - 4 July 1977]
Dave Sexton [14 July 1977 - 29 April 1981]
Ron Atkinson [9 June 1981 - 6 November 1986]
Sir Alex Ferguson [6 November 1986 - 30 June 2013]
David Moyes [01 July 2013 - 22 April 2014]
Ryan Giggs *Caretaker* [22 April 2014 - 18 May 2014]
Louis van Gaal [July 2014 - 23 May 2016]
Jose Mourinho [27 May 2016 - 18 December 2018]
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer [19 December 2018* - 21 November 2021] *Note: Appointed officially on 28 March 2019
Michael Carrick *Caretaker* [21 November 2021 - 02 December 2021]
Ralf Rangnick *Interim* [03 December 2021 - ?]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Manch..._and_statistics

Record Home Win: 10-0 v Anderlecht, 26/09/1956 (European Cup Preliminary Round, 2nd leg)
Record Home Defeat: 1-7 v Newcastle United, 10/09/1927 [Division 1]

Record Away Win: 8-1 v Nottingham Forest, 06/02/1999
Record Away Defeat: 0-7 v Blackburn Rovers, 10/04/1926 (Division 1) | 0-7 v Aston Villa, 27/12/1930 [Division 1] | 0-7 v Wolverhampton Wanderers, 26/12/1931 [Division 2]

Record Win: 10-0 v Anderlecht, 26/09/1956 (European Cup Preliminary Round, 2nd leg)
Record Defeat: 0-7 v Blackburn Rovers, 10/04/1926 (Division 1) | 0-7 v Aston Villa, 27/12/1930 [Division 1] | 0-7 v Wolverhampton Wanderers, 26/12/1931 [Division 2]

Record League Win: 10-1 v Wolves, 15/10/1892 (Division 1)
Record League Defeat: 0-7 v Blackburn Rovers, 10/04/1926 (Division 1) | 0-7 v Aston Villa, 27/12/1930 [Division 1] | 0-7 v Wolverhampton Wanderers, 26/12/1931 [Division 2]

Record Premier League Win: 9-0 v Ipswich Town, 04/03/1995
Record Premier League Defeat: 0-5 v Newcastle United, 20/10/1996 | 0-5 v Chelsea, 03/10/1999 | 1–6 v Manchester City, 23 October 2011

Record FA Cup Win: 8-0 v Yeovil Town, 12/02/1949
Record FA Cup Defeat: 1-7 v Burnley, 13/02/1901 [1st Round]

Record European Win: 10-0 v Anderlecht, 26/09/1956 (European Cup Preliminary Round, 2nd leg)
Record European Defeat: 0-5 v Sporting, 18/03/1964 [Cup Winners' Cup QF]

Record Champions League Win: 7-1 v Roma, 10/04/2007 [UCL QF, 2nd leg]

Record Home Attendance (At Old Trafford): 76,098 31/3/2007 Premier League (Man Utd vs Blackburn) (83,260 for United v Arsenal at Maine Road in 1948)

Record League Appearances: 672 (555 Start, 117 Sub) Ryan Giggs 1990 - 06 May 2014 v Hull City [963 (802 Start, 161 Sub) overall]

Record League Goalscorer: 199 [in 606 league appearances] Sir Bobby Charlton 1956-1973

Record Overall Goalscorer: 253 [in 559 appearances] Wayne Rooney 2004-09 July 2017

Record Transfer Fee Received: 80,000,000 pounds for Cristiano Ronaldo to Real Madrid (July 2009)

Record Transfer Fee Paid: 89,000,000 pounds for Paul Pogba from Juventus (August 2016)


As the world's biggest and richest club, Manchester United reach a global fanbase.

Part of the attraction for fans around the world has been the football luminaries, such as George Best and Sir Bobby Charlton, who have graced the Old Trafford turf in a Manchester United shirt over the years.

Recently, Manchester United have continued to attract or develop some of the game's biggest names, with England stalwarts such as Paul Scholes and David Beckham having been regular fixtures in the Reds line-up.

The Manchester United team, past and present, reads like a who's who of world football.

It is only fitting that a great team should grace a great stadium. And with Old Trafford's recent development and the closure of Wembley, the ground is easily the largest in English football, holding in excess of 60,000 fans.

Despite this capacity, the demand to see United in action is so great that tickets are hard to come by.

But it isn't only Manchester United fans who flock to Old Trafford. The standard of the ground is such that it regularly hosts high-profile games, most notably, the Champions League Final and Great Britain rugby league games.

Rock fans have also made use of the Reds's facilities, watching a number of high-profile acts at the ground.

But it's football that will forever be synonymous with the Reds famous ground - and with good reason.

The last decade has seen Manchester United under the shrewd leadership of Sir Alex Ferguson maintain a virtual stranglehold on the Premiership crown.

Manchester United has won the league no fewer than 18 times in their history. They are also Cup Kings too, winning the FA cup 11 times, the league cup 4 times, as well as winning the European Super Cup, European Cup Winner's Cup, and 3 times being crowned European Cup champions.

Manchester United has long become a name associated with success both on and off the pitch.

As club profits continue to grow, Manchester United have become one of the richest sports clubs on the planet.

With supporters club branches on every continent, it's hard to go any where in the world and not see somebody wearing the famous red shirt of Manchester United.

Manchester United Club Info

Old Trafford

Nickname: The Red Devils

Ground: Old Trafford

Pitch Size: 116 x 76 yards (106.0704 x 69.4944 meter)

Capacity: 76,000

Address: Sir Matt Busby Way, Old Trafford, Manchester

Postcode: M160RA

Directions: From North: Leave the M60 at junction 12 for M602 (Salford / Manchester). At the end of M602 (Jtn 3) follow the signs for Salford Quays and Trafford Park. At the roundabout turn right into Trafford Road (A5063), then at the bridge over Manchester Ship canal, keep in the right hand lane and turn right. Next, follow this road round to Trafford Wharf Road, and then left onto Watersreach. Continue through the traffic lights onto Sir Matt Busby Way.

From South: Leave M6 at junction 19, then take the A56 towards Manchester Airport. Join the M56 to Manchester, going past the Airport and then follow the signs for the M60 (Leeds / Liverpool). Leave M60 at Jtn 7 (A56 Chester Road) following signs for Manchester United Football Club. Turn left into Sir Matt Busby Way.

Ticket prices: 25 pounds upwards, concessions from 12.50 pounds. Tickets for the home sections are usually only available to members of the club and are normally allocated by ballot.

Contact information: Ticket Office: 0161 868 8020
Main Telephone: 0161 868 8000

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QUOTE(zenix @ Nov 24 2009, 09:18 PM)
Hope Alien will sticky this info later.
Though written in 2006 so no Roy Keane yet.

Ex-United players that have moved on to become managers.

Written by Simon Stone (MARCH 22, 2006)

STEVE BRUCE (1987-1996): Took his first steps in management with Sheffield United in 1998, then swiftly moved on to Huddersfield, Wigan and Crystal Palace. Left Selhurst Park in acrimonious fashion after Birmingham targeted him as the replacement for Trevor Francis in 1991. Took Blues into the Premier League but after a heavy FA Cup defeat is struggling to keep his job.

MARTIN POWELL (1971-1983): Stylish and well-respected Scotland centre-half whose authoritative nature appeared to make him a natural for the management game. Lasted four months at Burnley.

SIR BOBBY CHARLTON (1956-1973): Arguably the finest English player of all time proved to be an unmitigated disaster as a manager. Claimed he was not given the resources to make a decent job of it at Preston but was never lured back into management following his departure after a single season.

STEVE COPPELL (1975-1983): After a knee injury cut his playing career short at just 28, Coppell turned his attention to management. Steered Crystal Palace into the FA Cup final and then third place in the old First Division - the Eagles' highest ever - the following season. It was the first of four stints in charge at Selhurst Park in a career which has seen him move to Manchester City (for only six games), Brentford and Brighton. Now at Reading and about to steer the Royals into the top flight for the first time.

PADDY CRERAND (1962-1971): A key figure in United's 1968 European Cup triumph, Crerand lasted five months at Northampton before getting the bullet and, like Charlton, never managed again.

MARK HUGHES (1983-86, 1988-95): Hughes was never tipped as a manager by Ferguson but has taken to the game with ease. Took Wales into the Euro 2004 play-offs. Took over at Blackburn shortly afterwards, steering Rovers away from danger in his first season. Currently in contention for a Champions League spot.

BRIAN KIDD (1967-1974): Another European Cup winner who proved to be a poor manager. Got itchy feet in 1998 after spending seven years as Sir Alex Ferguson's highly-rated assistant. Took command at Blackburn but dismissed six months later.

BRYAN ROBSON (1981-94): United's inspirational leader under Ron Atkinson and Ferguson. There are two schools of thought on his stint at Middlesbrough - he either spent lots and achieved little (relegation and two losing finals) or he laid the platform for the Teessiders to become an established Premiership outfit. Kept West Brom up in extraordinary fashion last year but back in trouble again this season.

GORDON STRACHAN (1984-89): Scotland international who won the FA Cup with United and the title of the pre-Premiership era with Leeds. Sacked after five years at when the Sky Blues lost top-flight status, then enjoyed success at Southampton - reaching the 2003 Cup final - before resigning to spend more time with his family. Now at Celtic, has recovered from a humiliating Champions League exit to Artmedia Bratislava, and, after winning his first trophy on Sunday in the CIS Insurance Cup, is set to clinch the Scottish Premier League.

NOBBY STILES (1960-71): Along with Charlton, one of only two Englishmen to have won the World Cup and European Cup, he replaced his former England and United team-mate at Preston, with limited success. After a brief stint in Vancouver, returned to England to take over as manager of West Brom. Sacked after five months, having gained just three wins.
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2021's Summer Ins and Outs

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In

Jadon Sancho (From Borussia Dortmund)
Tom Heaton (From Aston Villa)
Raphael Varane (From Real Madrid)
Cristiano Ronaldo (From Juventus)


Out

Daniel James (To Leeds United)
Joel Pereira (To RKC Waalwijk)


Loaned Out

Tahith Chong (Birmingham City)
Facundo Pellistri (Alaves)
Axel Tuanzebe (Aston Villa)
Andreas Pereira (Flamengo)
Brandon Williams (Norwich City)
Ethan Laird (Swansea City)
James Gardner (Nottingham Forest)
Dylan Levitt (Dundee United)

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French striker Anthony Martial has told Manchester United interim manager Ralf Rangnick he wants to leave.

Rangnick said he "spoke at length" on Wednesday with the 26-year-old, who told him "it's the right time for a change".

Martial has started just two Premier League games this season, scoring once.

Despite his desire to leave Old Trafford, Rangnick confirmed the club had not yet received an offer for the forward.

The player's agent Philippe Lamboley confirmed earlier this month Martial wanted to leave the club in January, adding he would "speak to the club soon".

Rangnick said: "He explained to me that he's been at Manchester United now for the last seven years and he feels it's the right time for a change, to go somewhere else."

Martial signed for United in 2015 from Monaco for £36m, making him the world's most expensive teenage footballer at the time.

He has scored 79 goals in 268 appearances for the Red Devils but has become a fringe player following the arrivals of Cristiano Ronaldo, Edinson Cavani and Jadon Sancho.

He not featured in any of Rangnick's games in charge so far and has made just 10 appearances in all competitions this season.

"I think in a way it is understandable," added Rangnick.

"I could follow his thoughts but on the other hand, it's also important to see the situation of the club. We have Covid times, we have three competitions in which we have high ambitions and want to be as successful as we can be.

"So far, as far as I know, there has been no offer from any other club and as long as this is the case he will stay."

Rangnick also said he shares Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp's concerns over signing players who are not vaccinated against coronavirus.

Klopp recently said a player's vaccinated status would be "influential" in the club's decision to sign them.

"I think it could be a consideration," Rangnick said.

"This is an issue the clubs seriously have to think about. If you sign a player knowing from the first day that he has not been vaccinated, you have to be aware he might not be available."

"Not only for 10 days, but this could happen regularly in Covid times."

United had to shut the first-team section of their Carrington facility due to a Covid outbreak and have had two Premier League games postponed in December.

The Premier League said 84% of players are on their "vaccination journey" according to recent figures, leaving 16% unvaccinated.

The figures are in line with comparable age groups across society in the UK.

Rangnick used the example of Bayern Munich's Joshua Kimmich as evidence players should get vaccinated as soon as possible.

The Germany international, 26, recently said he regrets not being vaccinated after suffering a lung problem as a result of Covid-19.

"[Kimmich] was extremely hesitant at the beginning and I think in the meantime he has realised it might be a good idea to get vaccinated," Rangnick added.

"He caught Covid and still has some problems with his lungs. I think this is an issue where of course everybody can, and should have, his free will. But in football, especially at this level we are playing at, we need to try to convince our players to get vaccinated.

"It should be in the interest of the players to be vaccinated, but in the end it's a decision that each club has to take by themselves and find the best possible solution."


https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/59796266
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post Dec 28 2021, 12:40 AM

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Which club is interested and can afford Martial salary?
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newcastle want or not? come sign him la
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Players not matched with 4222 at all.
All players seems play in weird position.
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Aiyo leaked
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post Dec 28 2021, 04:09 AM

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Varane lost the ball
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post Dec 28 2021, 04:21 AM

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dalot cross is too off today. many chances for him.

90th corner and bear no fruit.... blink.gif

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RR, come on, don't be too stubborn with 4222.
It doesn't fit the players at all.
Change the formation la ...
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Fred really frustrating to watch. His inability to makes long passes holding back the team
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QUOTE(yujirorasy @ Dec 28 2021, 04:26 AM)
Fred really frustrating to watch. His inability to makes long passes holding back the team
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yea, obvious in matches like this. but thats we have for the moment. doh.gif

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Rashy complaining to the ref while the ball was still in play lol
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Fred having a terrible game so far.. Greenwood movements into the box been real nice
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Varane seems rusty
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cant get the ball to the front 4 at all. jialat. need some changes.

lose passes everywhere.

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Ball recoveries in the opponent half is ok.. in own half is terrible.. weird as hell
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Poor 1st half from Fred, McTom & Bruno
They forgot how to pass/keep possession
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Korang tak sakit hati ke tengok cara passing player manutd sekarang ni?and maxim look like 7 times ballon d'or winner right now
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imho, i dont think rashford and greenwood can play with ronaldo

both are selfish minded center forward

ronaldo hv to play with donny and sancho
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QUOTE(aa1985 @ Dec 28 2021, 04:42 AM)
Korang tak sakit hati ke tengok cara passing player manutd sekarang ni?and maxim look like 7 times ballon d'or winner right now
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The urgency is great, the accuracy is horrible..
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Injured while doing a roulette 🤣
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QUOTE(orga_laut @ Dec 28 2021, 04:45 AM)
imho, i dont think rashford and greenwood can play with ronaldo

both are selfish minded center forward

ronaldo hv to play with donny and sancho
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Rr pick his team based on individual abilities.
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Fred & Greenwood out
Sancho & Cavani in
Nice
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lolx the commentator is so cirtical about man utd hahahaha
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mctominay the stick and his defending
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Right hand side ada hantu kah? All the crosses ended up elsewhere other than the intended place

Dalot sancho

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wow cavani ..
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They need VDB to calm that midfield which cannot pass the ball
Wow Rashford hahahahhaa

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looks like all lost confident already?
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Goal out of nowhere
Go for the win
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Great ball from Bruno, great ball from Dalot
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poacher instinct and very intelligent move there by both cr7 and edi
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What a save by degea
Again varane almost cost United
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FUKING DE GEA! GOD MODE
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QUOTE(and85rew @ Dec 28 2021, 05:50 AM)
What a save by degea
Again varane almost cost United
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Crazy save. But varane pass was poor to Bruno to begin with. We need to winning this game and the next few for Top four.

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Varane didnt get his sharpness back.. fitness also questionable
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watching this man utd team under rangnick play like watching local M league play.. clear clear clear and look for 2nd ball

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Game with hell lot of poor passes

Degea have more saves to make Becos of the lose passes all over.

Only positive is intensity still there.

Maguire holding the ball for so damn long, but why macfred passes to him to make that long slow looping ball again and again.

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QUOTE(orga_laut @ Dec 28 2021, 05:55 AM)
watching this man utd team under rangnick play like watching local M league play.. clear clear clear and look for 2nd ball
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Indeed
What a shocker of performance
Maybe rusty and unfit due to covid
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lucky draw thanks to degea
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when you play without capable centre midfielder to control the game. rashford should have just retire. he doesnt belong there.

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QUOTE(yujirorasy @ Dec 28 2021, 06:02 AM)
when you play without capable centre midfielder to control the game. rashford should have just retire. he doesnt belong there.
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Can give so many chances to mcfred or even matic that cannit even run anymore, yet 0 chances to vdb

At this rate, rashford is the next welbeck
Is his head in the game?
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QUOTE(and85rew @ Dec 28 2021, 06:05 AM)
Can give so many chances to mcfred or even matic that cannit even run anymore, yet 0 chances to vdb

At this rate, rashford is the next welbeck
Is his head in the game?
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hes gotten more stupid after getting his mbe
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QUOTE(yujirorasy @ Dec 28 2021, 06:11 AM)
hes gotten more stupid after getting his mbe
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Totally agree
Lost his focus
If no improvement/focus, MR will be welbeck 2.0, MG will be welbeck 3.0
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Utd players lost possession:

Bruno 26
Rashford 20
Dalot 19
Sancho 14
McTominay 13
Telles 12
Maguire 11
Varane 11
Fred 10
Ronaldo 9
Greenwood 8
De Gea 7
Cavani 5
Matic 3

Some of these players should sit on the bench. But the fault is half on the manager for me.
Hope he will rectify the problems..
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Mc Fred is back again

Just look at it when Bruno plays at Fred position all of sudden the midfielder become better more passing forward, more dribble towards the opposition

Bruno can't play as a "winger" and please VDB should get the chance and drop Maguire he is a liability to the team.

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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Dec 28 2021, 07:59 AM)
this is not an excuse okay
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Dec 28 2021, 06:16 AM)
Utd players lost possession:

Bruno 26
Rashford 20

Dalot 19
Sancho 14
McTominay 13
Telles 12
Maguire 11
Varane 11
Fred 10
Ronaldo 9
Greenwood 8
De Gea 7
Cavani 5
Matic 3

Some of these players should sit on the bench. But the fault is half on the manager for me.
Hope he will rectify the problems..
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Bruno really lost a lot of it
Too many long balls from United
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And i thought after the first game, there will be major improvement lol.
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Newcastle completely no Covid?
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Dec 28 2021, 09:26 AM)
Newcastle completely no Covid?
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better than us... lol... we more than 60% of the squad affected doh.gif doh.gif and those players who reluctant to vaccinate... i dunno wad are they thinking... sometimes i feel these angmohs very stupid when their countries are so advance...
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And i thought after the first game, there will be major improvement lol.
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Dec 28 2021, 09:57 AM)
better than us... lol... we more than 60% of the squad affected  doh.gif  doh.gif and those players who reluctant to vaccinate... i dunno wad are they thinking... sometimes i feel these angmohs very stupid when their countries are so advance...
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Somewhat Excusable but don’t forget we pay ours easily 2-10x more than Newcastle. Somehow not getting what we paid for from these jokers. Maguire slow to turn as always. If it ended 3-1 it would’ve all been him as last defender.

How many more Davesaves are we going to get? Once he gets the player of the year is the year RM or some other team will start their poaching.


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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Dec 28 2021, 10:19 AM)
Somewhat Excusable but don’t forget we pay ours easily 2-10x more than Newcastle. Somehow not getting what we paid for from these jokers. Maguire slow to turn as always. If it ended 3-1 it would’ve all been him as last defender.

How many more Davesaves are we going to get? Once he gets the player of the year is the year RM or some other team will start their poaching.
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maguire, this season reli headache with him... lol.. last season somehow he gotten away with it... but this season... he keep on done those stupid mistakes... fire also mari... and bruno seems like getting worse under RR adui
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I blame poor fitness and our ready-ness. Fair result, Newcastle might regret it more not to win it.

I don't blame the manager, he probably not conducting proper training session in the past week, but we failed to dominate midfield area against mediocre players like Shelvey and Joelinton, not given chance to VDB are mind boggling.

Buy a CDM please, if he truly Top Class coach and admired by thousands, there must be some young starlet willing to push a transfer to play under him.

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QUOTE(and85rew @ Dec 28 2021, 06:05 AM)
Can give so many chances to mcfred or even matic that cannit even run anymore, yet 0 chances to vdb

At this rate, rashford is the next welbeck
Is his head in the game?
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Kesian vdb. Can't get chance under both manager. Surely something wrong in him in training.

Top4 also susah with this lousy performance. Maguire so easily get turned. Didn't even realised greenwood playing until deep into fh
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Dec 28 2021, 10:31 AM)
maguire, this season reli headache with him... lol.. last season somehow he gotten away with it... but this season... he keep on done those stupid mistakes... fire also mari... and bruno seems like getting worse under RR adui
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he is not getting worse, this is him.. without goals, he is wasteful almost all the time..
when things didnt go his way, throwing his hands in the air.. complaining, moaning, sulking.. doh.gif

teammates dont need this complaining shit.. add CR7 now there are 2 of them doing this
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QUOTE(and85rew @ Dec 28 2021, 08:28 AM)
Bruno really lost a lot of it
Too many long balls from United
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1st half he played wide, very poor
2nd half he played well., playing deeper and can see a lot wasted thru ball because attacking player not picking up the space.
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Dec 28 2021, 02:23 PM)
he is not getting worse, this is him.. without goals, he is wasteful almost all the time..
when things didnt go his way, throwing his hands in the air.. complaining, moaning, sulking..  doh.gif

teammates dont need this complaining shit.. add CR7 now there are 2 of them doing this
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well good players sure have their own negative traits... but its more obvious when they are not performing... lol... like rooney who always cari gaduh most of the time during his younger time
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Dec 28 2021, 01:58 PM)
Kesian vdb. Can't get chance under both manager. Surely something wrong in him in training.

Top4 also susah with this lousy performance. Maguire so easily get turned. Didn't even realised greenwood playing until deep into fh
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With this performance...no.5 is a bonus
Seriously they need to step up
But considering lots of them got covid...
It may take bit longer to reach peak performance
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Dec 28 2021, 02:23 PM)
he is not getting worse, this is him.. without goals, he is wasteful almost all the time..
when things didnt go his way, throwing his hands in the air.. complaining, moaning, sulking..  doh.gif

teammates dont need this complaining shit.. add CR7 now there are 2 of them doing this
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Actually 3
CR + BF + MR
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Dec 28 2021, 03:06 PM)
well good players sure have their own negative traits... but its more obvious when they are not performing... lol... like rooney who always cari gaduh most of the time during his younger time
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The White Pele used his frustration/aggression positively most of the time.. get the ball bring it forward to attack, sometimes mazy solo run, sometimes long range power shot..
Remember against Newcastle at home, after gaduh with the ref he turn around get the ball and blast a screamer top left corner..

Big difference.. Bruno lecturing teammates while he's also doing horrible passes and losing the ball.. double negative.. aint helping no one

QUOTE(and85rew @ Dec 28 2021, 03:15 PM)
Actually 3
CR + BF + MR
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Understandable when its coming from CR7.. he used to sweet passes from the likes of Modric, Kroos, Di Maria, Scholes, Carrick, etc..
Plus he won it all and did it again n again..
Bruno? After good performance half a season suddenly got inflated ego..
Rashford after big recognition outside of football suddenly on pitch act like entitled to beat defenders easily..

Its a big mistake giving Maguire the captaincy and also Bruno the vice title..
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Dec 28 2021, 04:03 PM)
The White Pele used his frustration/aggression positively most of the time.. get the ball bring it forward to attack, sometimes mazy solo run, sometimes long range power shot..
Remember against Newcastle at home, after gaduh with the ref he turn around get the ball and blast a screamer top left corner..

Big difference.. Bruno lecturing teammates while he's also doing horrible passes and losing the ball.. double negative.. aint helping no one
Understandable when its coming from CR7.. he used to sweet passes from the likes of Modric, Kroos, Di Maria, Scholes, Carrick, etc..
Plus he won it all and did it again n again..
Bruno? After good performance half a season suddenly got inflated ego..
Rashford after big recognition outside of football suddenly on pitch act like entitled to beat defenders easily..

Its a big mistake giving Maguire the captaincy and also Bruno the vice title..
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The amout of senseless long balls from BF needs to be cut down
Can understand CR rants as it was like prev CR at United
But for MR and BF to do so..is ridiculous
Team needs better MF
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Better MF and better CAPTAIN..captain that can motivate team..dont see that in maguire..hurmmmm
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rumours that the players cant get used to RR training methods.. lol... what a bunch of joker of players we have if this is real...
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Dec 29 2021, 10:21 AM)
rumours that the players cant get used to RR training methods.. lol... what a bunch of joker of players we have if this is real...
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Dec 29 2021, 10:21 AM)
rumours that the players cant get used to RR training methods.. lol... what a bunch of joker of players we have if this is real...
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Dec 29 2021, 10:21 AM)
rumours that the players cant get used to RR training methods.. lol... what a bunch of joker of players we have if this is real...
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Under ole, noob training complain. Under rr high intensity training also complain lol.

So whose training most relax? I remember under jm, ole complain players not fit, run not enough when takeover.
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Double posted

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bunch of whiners and crybaby..

this is what u when u give the armband to a 2 times relegation CB, to lead the squad of one of the biggest club in the world.. also the vice-captain to a former lower tier league player..
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Ada chance ke maguire volunter bagi role captain kat player lain..DDG ke..
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Damn, City on 10 straight wins. Just like last year winning streak run away with title.

Tonight will win cause Bruno not playing
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lol cannot drive home with their supercars in the dark.. crybaby
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i'm sure everyone struggles when need to go home at 5pm, i mean I go home at 8pm somedays and when I reach home I need my 20million pound house and trophy wife to console me too....
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No Bruno, no Pogba surely VDB got his chance 🙄
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No Bruno, no Pogba surely VDB got his chance 🙄
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Dec 30 2021, 10:52 AM)
Damn, City on 10 straight wins. Just like last year winning streak run away with title.

Tonight will win cause Bruno not playing
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#Breaking :

Ralph Rangnick has lost dressing room at Manchester United, and the mood at Carrington is very low.
Scott McTominay, Harry Maguire, Luke Shaw, Marcus Rashford and Bruno Fernandes are not happy with Ralph Rangnick and his football philosophy. These players are also getting external support from Gary Neville, Peter Schmeichel and Patrice Evra as these former players don't fancy Rangnick and his tactics.
Some players are also turning on each other, Mason Greenwood is not happy with the arrival of Cristiano Ronaldo and wanna leave Man United next summer.

Absolute Mayhem at Carrington since last 2 days. 🤐🤐

[Simon Stone]

Dunno true or not
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lol kesian VDB
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Whoa 3 at half time...haha
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Leak leak
Bailly error
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what a cheap goal.... again and again. bailey losses it, but mr fridge... hiazzzz

and still we dont score from corner yet

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Kayu is on kayu mode
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Maguire weak one on one, too risky when his partner likes to attack the ball like Bailly..

Varane + Bailly would be interesting.. but Maguire is undroppable because of his armband
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Dec 31 2021, 05:16 AM)
Maguire weak one on one, too risky when his partner likes to attack the ball like Bailly..

Varane + Bailly would be interesting.. but Maguire is undroppable because of his armband
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Bailly way too fragile...

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still no goal from set piece... jialat.

crosses all overhit underhit 1
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Ler Fred coming in.. crazy.. DVB move one son..
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Dec 31 2021, 06:04 AM)
Ler Fred coming in.. crazy.. DVB move one son..
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Burnley was poor.. United didnt play that good, but better than the last match.. scored 3 goals, great result..
McT is deadly at the edge of the box, not good in the middle of the field.. but overall totally deserves the man of the match

United got too many midfielders only good in the final 3rd of the pitch but mediocre in the middle doh.gif
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Dec 31 2021, 06:04 AM)
Ler Fred coming in.. crazy.. DVB move one son..
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Lol i feel is his problem dy if new coach also dun use you at all...
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Folks, have missed the past couple of games during the holiday season and the 4am kickoff time.

Curious to know how those who watched thought of United's performance and if there are any visible tactical changes?

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f*king maguire let the ball bounce at about 33 minutes. That is a bloody schoolboy play. and that goal, he just backed off instead of closing down...
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Had a look at the highlights. Yup, that goal conceded was all on Maguire. Plenty of time to close the player down but he kept choosing to stand off.

His decision making is shot at times.
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Dec 31 2021, 08:38 AM)
Lol i feel is his problem dy if new coach also dun use you at all...
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i believe that he is a good player in real matches but not on the training pitch.. and his competitor shows 120% in training but meh performance in real match..

some players are like that, lazy bum in training but show up in matches.. like Hazard, Cantona.. not saying that DVB is at these guys level la.. just saying maybe he is the kind of guy that dont go all out in training hmm.gif
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Dec 31 2021, 09:37 AM)
Folks, have missed the past couple of games during the holiday season and the 4am kickoff time.

Curious to know how those who watched thought of United's performance and if there are any visible tactical changes?
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Less gegenpressing
Maybe post covid, no stamina to press much
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Dec 31 2021, 09:37 AM)
Folks, have missed the past couple of games during the holiday season and the 4am kickoff time.

Curious to know how those who watched thought of United's performance and if there are any visible tactical changes?
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QUOTE(and85rew @ Dec 31 2021, 02:57 PM)
Less gegenpressing
Maybe post covid, no stamina to press much
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yeah much less pressing, like a hybrid of Ole and Rangnick..

my 2cent positive opinion, Ralf see that these players probably not good enough to do what he want them to do right now..
and he kinda stop demanding it for now because afraid of losing too many points in the league n maybe the dressing room too..

i think he will get back to his pressing style when the match schedule is not that congested anymore.. end of Feb maybe..

who knows.. hope for the best la laugh.gif
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Dec 31 2021, 09:37 AM)
Folks, have missed the past couple of games during the holiday season and the 4am kickoff time.

Curious to know how those who watched thought of United's performance and if there are any visible tactical changes?
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Today no more 4-2-2-2. Commentator say 4-2-3-1

One thing good, players simply lose possession will have chance kena fridge. Fred sudah fridge. Rashford maybe. Dalot telles not really shine, kena replaced.

See, no bruno sure win. He is a liability with those sulking and poor form at this moment.

Maguire boleh strip armband. Schoolboy defending. Late game wrestling, nearly give penalty. Awb also. Contribute nothing to att. Always back pass. And poor def also.

Mctom like Scholes in yesterday match

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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Dec 31 2021, 06:11 PM)
Today no more 4-2-2-2. Commentator say 4-2-3-1

One thing good, players simply lose possession will have chance kena fridge. Fred sudah fridge. Rashford maybe. Dalot telles not really shine, kena replaced.

See, no bruno sure win. He is a liability with those sulking and poor form at this moment.

Maguire boleh strip armband. Schoolboy defending. Late game wrestling, nearly give penalty. Awb also. Contribute nothing to att. Always back pass. And poor def also.

Mctom like Scholes in yesterday match
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Coincidentally, those Portuguese-connection, except Ronaldo didn't start: Dalot, Telles, Fred. Bruno, well, because of suspension. We used to think about how Pogba can fit under Rangnick's system, now with Bruno's missing and we did okay, probably he will struggle to break into the starting line up again, too innocent.gif

Putting that aside..

I read that Rangnick's want to approach this game with Burnley's physicality hence those selections compared to the Newcastle game.
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Thanks for the input guys.
Had a look at the highlights of the previous games. Several points came up.

- How would you rate Rashford within the new system? For me in theory he is a square peg in a round hole. The 4-2-2-2 system better utilizes two number 10s than wide forwards/wingers. Rashford is the typical wide forward who doesn't link up very wekk with the rest of the team. Sancho does, hence him looking better in the system.
- Both Fred and McTominay look way better when restored to a number 8 position as compared to both being used as a dual number 6 pivot. McTominay seems a natural nearer to the opposition box, especially with a number 6 (Matic) covering him.
- The defence needs sorting but Maguire has a squad status of 'undroppable'. Even hangs on to the captaincy. Giving him a game or two off may do him and the team good.
- It is too soon to judge Rangnick, the fixture list is too congested and results are needed ahead of cohesion. I suspect he seems to have eased off integrating his tactics into the style of play and we won't see an adoption util maybe March.

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Dec 31 2021, 07:43 PM)
Thanks for the input guys.
Had a look at the highlights of the previous games. Several points came up.

- How would you rate Rashford within the new system? For me in theory he is a square peg in a round hole. The 4-2-2-2 system better utilizes two number 10s than wide forwards/wingers. Rashford is the typical wide forward who doesn't link up very wekk with the rest of the team. Sancho does, hence him looking better in the system.
- Both Fred and McTominay look way better when restored to a number 8 position as compared to both being used as a dual number 6 pivot. McTominay seems a natural nearer to the opposition box, especially with a number 6 (Matic) covering him.
- The defence needs sorting but Maguire has a squad status of 'undroppable'. Even hangs on to the captaincy. Giving him a game or two off may do him and the team good.
- It is too soon to judge Rangnick, the fixture list is too congested and results are needed ahead of cohesion. I suspect he seems to have eased off integrating his tactics into the style of play and we won't see an adoption util maybe March.
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no matter how good rashford is i wont pick him. his mind not on the game anymore. i pick sancho over rashford as he is a better team player.
fred and mctominay lack technical abilities and inconsistent. they are better but wont bring united trophies. liverpool players walks over them all day long.
for Rangnick to implement his tactics successfully he needs more suitable players. with the current team its more of rojak style. I wish united follow real madrid and Chelsea way of football. Both are very strict for underperformed players.
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QUOTE(yujirorasy @ Jan 1 2022, 12:24 AM)
no matter how good rashford is i wont pick him. his mind not on the game anymore. i pick sancho over rashford as he is a better team player.
fred and mctominay lack technical abilities and inconsistent. they are better but wont bring united trophies. liverpool players walks over them all day long.
for Rangnick to implement his tactics successfully he needs more suitable players. with the current team its more of rojak style. I wish united follow real madrid and Chelsea way of football. Both are very strict for underperformed players.
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Dec 31 2021, 07:43 PM)
Thanks for the input guys.
Had a look at the highlights of the previous games. Several points came up.

- How would you rate Rashford within the new system? For me in theory he is a square peg in a round hole. The 4-2-2-2 system better utilizes two number 10s than wide forwards/wingers. Rashford is the typical wide forward who doesn't link up very wekk with the rest of the team. Sancho does, hence him looking better in the system.
- Both Fred and McTominay look way better when restored to a number 8 position as compared to both being used as a dual number 6 pivot. McTominay seems a natural nearer to the opposition box, especially with a number 6 (Matic) covering him.
- The defence needs sorting but Maguire has a squad status of 'undroppable'. Even hangs on to the captaincy. Giving him a game or two off may do him and the team good.
- It is too soon to judge Rangnick, the fixture list is too congested and results are needed ahead of cohesion. I suspect he seems to have eased off integrating his tactics into the style of play and we won't see an adoption util maybe March.
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mct has that ability to shoot with his right foot, thats for sure. other than that, nada...
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Sancho is doing better in terms of effort.

McT, if he scores a few more for the season will actually overtake Bruno and with 10 goals can be a great asset too.

But Burnley didn’t look like they came for a fight so I don’t think there is much to gain from this match.

I’m still struggling to understand the captain, who was neither here nor there for the goal conceded and whole game didn’t look useful. The full backs did a lot better than him as a defender.
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QUOTE(DarkWan @ Jan 1 2022, 11:36 AM)
Lucky that we got rid of him.

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He is actually quite silent before the move to inter.
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He is actually quite silent before the move to inter.
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Because he got to play almost every time, unfortunately his performance dipping down after his 1st season so he cant complain much.

Lukaku come to chelski as seria A champion, cant get enough games sure make noise
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He is actually quite silent before the move to inter.
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QUOTE(simmarjit @ Jan 2 2022, 10:31 AM)
Yea silently went AWOL and train with Anderlecht to force a move
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no maguire. so 5 at the back or jones pair with varane ?
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no maguire. so 5 at the back or jones pair with varane ?
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matic CB... lol
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matic CB... lol
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Rumor is United is trying to get alvarez who is a striker when they actually need a defensive midfielder.
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jan 3 2022, 11:02 AM)
sien... man city so far away again... baru half of the season saje wehh... all the title contenders konon nya habis kena potong stim lol... pep guaranteed with another title again... #easyas123
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Pep is new saf. Win title like makan sayur. He able did it without proper striker memang power. Better than pool win la lol.

I thought ole is the future since he got beat pep trophy. But at the end hilang stim.

Our best return hope this season only fa cup and ucl lol
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Jan 3 2022, 04:21 PM)
Pep is new saf. Win title like makan sayur. He able did it without proper striker memang power. Better than pool win la lol.

I thought ole is the future since he got beat pep trophy. But at the end hilang stim.

Our best return hope this season only fa cup and ucl lol
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QUOTE(DarkWan @ Jan 1 2022, 11:36 AM)
Lucky that we got rid of him.

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the issue escalated after he was totally drop against Liverpool match yesterday. Cukur Man Utd sudah get back the transfer fee.
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the issue escalated after he was totally drop against Liverpool match yesterday. Cukur Man Utd sudah get back the transfer fee.
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jan 3 2022, 05:34 PM)
never regretted selling him even once... lol... when he came i also din reli celebrate his arrival... feel like buying a 80mil fridge for me... din expect we will have 80 mil fridge as striker and another 80mil fridge as defender  doh.gif  doh.gif
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That time Ole use the soft approach and let him go, luckily Inter can offer good price for him.

But now Tuchel using hard approach and now Lukaku merajuk, eh this is just first half season and drama already started. laugh.gif laugh.gif
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what happen to maguire??
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What a surprise
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Jones pls be fit n keep maguire off the starting 11
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Jones starting

I think i might want to stay up and watch the historic moment
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excited now! cmon Jones take the spot back! lol
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Wow ... Jones start, who would thought about that.
Another wow, Bruno and Rashford on bench despite no injury and already rested on last match.

Rangnick seems die die wanna implement 4222, not sure this is good thing.
Rashford and Bruno really not fit into 4222.

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De Gea having ptsd right now. On serious note, Ronaldo and cavani starting together.
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But come on la guys, tbh, for a player that never get a single minute in adult professional match for past 2 years.
Suddenly start a match is quite risky.
For sure rusty.
Just hope he doesn't make huge mistake already considered good already.
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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Jan 4 2022, 12:45 AM)
Wow ... Jones start, who would thought about that.
Another wow, Bruno and Rashford on bench despite no injury and already rested on last match.

Rangnick seems die die wanna implement 4222, not sure this is good thing.
Rashford and Bruno really not fit into 4222.
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Like this rr got my support lol. Poor players need to be dropped. Not keep playing. Bruno rashford maguire piss poor for a long time. Maguire not even on bench? Poor form or something happen.

Awb start is weird though. All hail jones
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Harry Maguire received an injury against Burnley and had problems the day after the game. Since last night, we knew all three were out.'

Injured d. Dunno true or not.
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so why dalot not playing though?
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Our midfield is not doing much to create chance
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Players really not fitting into 4222,
but RR die die wanna use this formation, haiz
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nothing different between ole and rr. Both of them wants to play near the sideline rather than center of the field.

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luke shaw almost as AM position
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Mcsauce from MOTM to sleepy midfield? Keep losing the ball aiyorrrr

And again!!!

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Why play that matic that cannot run vs very energetic wolves

And mctom is so poor so far

Another cross bit overhit by awb
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The fact that Rangnick rate mct shows his caliber as a manager.
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QUOTE(yujirorasy @ Jan 4 2022, 02:03 AM)
The fact that Rangnick rate mct shows his caliber as a manager.
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jones so far so good
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Been conceding cheap possession the whole game up to now
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Why RR wants CR or Cavani so deep to help defend
Where is Matic/McTom/Sancho/Greenwood?
Play with matic, sure die bcoz he cannot keep up with his MF partner

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I believe that McT been chosen because of his physical attributes not his footballing abilities..
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I believe that McT been chosen because of his physical attributes not his footballing abilities..
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Rr doesn't even bothered to find midfielders. It means he think mct is good enough for united.
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That was poor from Cavani
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RR has no strong preference for certain players yet, but his stubbornness for 4222 is as serious as Ole's stubbornness in players selecting preference.
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Good block from Jones
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1st half best player.

JONES......
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jones so far so good
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1st half best player.

JONES......
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Jan 4 2022, 02:12 AM)
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Physical? Matic cannot even tackle/run fast... tongue.gif
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Rr doesn't even bothered to find midfielders. It means he think mct is good enough for united.
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He must be looking to sign midfielders..
I dont believe one bit that he thinks United midfielders are good enough..

Even Wolves midfield is better than United, including on the bench as well..
He talks highly of McT previously is a wayang move imo..


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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Jan 4 2022, 02:21 AM)
He must be looking to sign midfielders..
I dont believe one bit that he thinks United midfielders are good enough..

Even Wolves midfield is better than United, including on the bench as well..
He talks highly of McT previously is a wayang move imo..
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Jan 4 2022, 02:21 AM)
He must be looking to sign midfielders..
I dont believe one bit that he thinks United midfielders are good enough..

Even Wolves midfield is better than United, including on the bench as well..
He talks highly of McT previously is a wayang move imo..
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1 or 2 weeks ago he said that this team have enough players but of course he might have changed his mind. Hopefully.
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One goal la come on. 1-0 menang ok liao
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One goal la come on. 1-0 menang ok liao
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You think wolves just going to watch?  biggrin.gif
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Top cross from AwB …
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Players are clueless. They don't know what are they doing anymore
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Lol matic
Go retire la
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post Jan 4 2022, 02:51 AM

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Greenwood the sacrificial pawn like always.
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AWB crossing not threatening at all..
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VDB coming on soon...
GG----traore... hahaha blink.gif blink.gif blink.gif blink.gif
need chance creating...

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passing was horrible .. positioning very bad .. all dont kno how to play just.. bruno miss FCKKKK
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ronaldo poor shot
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Aiyo Matic dont need to foul him, Varane got it covered
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Sancho lack physical, skill and aggressiveness. Can't even 1 on 1.
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Rashford 0 iq play
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post Jan 4 2022, 03:11 AM

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jones not bad.. press high and anticipate well
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post Jan 4 2022, 03:11 AM

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Bocor
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post Jan 4 2022, 03:13 AM

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Ole 2.0
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poor very poor from midfield.. nobody challenge for 2nd ball
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post Jan 4 2022, 03:13 AM

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Bye VdB
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post Jan 4 2022, 03:14 AM

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Eat that RR
What a shambolic performance
To start with matic is like playjng with one less player
Idiot selection
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Mct always let his opponents take a shot every single time. He rarely block. What a generous guy.
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sloopy passes for last 3 games already. really crazy to think off.
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post Jan 4 2022, 03:15 AM

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Stupid from Bruno
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post Jan 4 2022, 03:16 AM

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Marcus Rashford … lol


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whats going on with these players???
passing so shit
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look at that pass from rashford!!! crazy!

under hit, over hit all over the pitch

Jose, Ole, now RR..

looks like its really the player.. hahahaha blush.gif blush.gif blush.gif blush.gif

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omg got bullied by wolves
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If Rashford is a foreign player the pundits will kill him every week
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post Jan 4 2022, 03:22 AM

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Wolves almost 20 attempts.. corners 1-8. Dominated
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post Jan 4 2022, 03:23 AM

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Only bright side for this game … Jones almost didn’t put a foot wrong

Wouldn’t have watch this game if Jones wasn’t starting

Precious sleeping time wasted

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thats what you get for playing mct, awb. the result might have been different if these two doesnt play.
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post Jan 4 2022, 03:25 AM

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Jones very brave
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Jan 4 2022, 03:25 AM)
Jones very brave
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he is aggresive like baily. that is also why they always injured.
vidic was aggresive, but somehow he took ccare well.
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As long as still 4222, I can't see we are going forward.
Rangnick too stubborn. No one fit into 4222 in this team.
Stop talking the players, no matter how shit the players, there is way to play.

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rangnick need to go end of season. he is stubborn with his strategy and think this team is good enough.
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u know how shit these players are when phil jones got motm ... phil jones looks better

SHIT


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post Jan 4 2022, 03:30 AM

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Rashford just quit football and join the parliament la

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should have gone for conte. at least he is a winner and very strict italian style. club management like shit cant do anything.
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Long suffering United fan here

Hard to believe I stay up until so late at night just to watch this shit..

No wonder kids nowadays would rather support other rich clubs like Manchester City, Liverpool or Chelsea.


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doesnt matter what formation if cannot do simple pass how to win games..

Ralf should go upstairs at the end of the season, that is his best role.. not on the touch line
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blame RR already? this is ole product
half of the coach is ole team.
RR is a very rigid manager, he cant change man utd like in 2-3 months.
RR dont have any choice.. if we want instant result
hire eddie howe much better.
remember, he's not permanent, he trying to build for the next season

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QUOTE(sheng @ Jan 4 2022, 03:30 AM)
Rashford just quit football and join the parliament la
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confirm new welbeck if cannot keep focus

nemanja matic should be benched forever, and released by end of season with mata

sell martial too

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QUOTE(john_white @ Jan 4 2022, 03:34 AM)
blame RR already? this is ole product
half of the coach is ole team.
RR is a very rigid manager, he cant change man utd like in 2-3 months.
RR dont have any choice..
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pick matic to play his gegenressing heavy metal football?
why want to handicap everytime select matic?
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There is no pressing

Too much gap between forwards and midfields

Just like Ole’s team in his last moment as manager
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QUOTE(and85rew @ Jan 4 2022, 03:36 AM)
pick matic to play his gegenressing heavy metal football?
why want to handicap everytime select matic?
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Plus dropped Telles and Dalot after just one poor game. Shaw & AWB have been below par for so many games!
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Jan 4 2022, 03:13 AM)
Bye VdB
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He better leaves. He will have better opportunity to win silverware somewhere else.
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the manager is not beyond criticism or blame..
but calling for him to be sacked now is uncalled for..

Ole was above criticism with "trust the process" "United way".. this players is the product of it, overhyped entitled bunch
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QUOTE(and85rew @ Jan 4 2022, 03:36 AM)
pick matic to play his gegenressing heavy metal football?
why want to handicap everytime select matic?
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that game just now is not gegenpressing.
man utd drop deeper, like ole system.
he abandon his system and its not working plus we dont have any midfielder


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QUOTE(irenic @ Jan 4 2022, 03:43 AM)
He better leaves. He will have better opportunity to win silverware somewhere else.
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Sancho also can say goodbye. Unlucky his price tag is too big. He only fit where team play quick passes. As a lone winger he failed tremendously. Every other opponents winger united has played, they always outclassed him.
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this is the product of ole ball

u cant play gegenpressing in short period with these bunch of players

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QUOTE(orga_laut @ Jan 4 2022, 03:56 AM)
this is the product of ole ball

u cant play gegenpressing in short period with these bunch of players
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Simple direct pass also failed and they call themselves footballer. Might as well pick Malaysia players.
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QUOTE(john_white @ Jan 4 2022, 03:49 AM)
that game just now is not gegenpressing.
man utd drop deeper, like ole system.
he abandon his system and its not working plus we dont have any midfielder
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Based on his post match interview he said there were pressing triggers that were set/planned before the match but was not successful..

I guess the players just not up for it..
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QUOTE(john_white @ Jan 4 2022, 03:49 AM)
that game just now is not gegenpressing.
man utd drop deeper, like ole system.
he abandon his system and its not working plus we dont have any midfielder
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Wolves never looked rushed. Joao Moutinho and Ruben Neves had no United player anywhere near them for an hour, until Bruno Fernandes came on. Jadon Sancho and Mason Greenwood, playing in the two behind Cristiano Ronaldo and Edinson Cavani, were wide-ish, and Matic and McTominay were deeper, essentially up against no-one. Rangnick failed to realise and prevent the key to Wolves’ game – time and space for their midfielders to control the tempo. And with Sancho and Greenwood wide-ish, but not wide, Moutinho and Neves had constant open outlets in wing-backs Nelson Semedo and Marcal, who lived behind the United full-backs in the first half. If Wolves had any cutting edge in the final third, they would have been out of sight by half-time – they had 14 shots before the break.

After the game, Rangnick admitted the problems – his side were overloaded in midfield, failed to prevent Wolves’ raiding full-backs and “didn’t press”.

https://www.football365.com/news/opinion-ma...ngnick-clueless
Well summed up
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It takes Klopp few years to implement the style to Liverpool... if you expect Ralf to do it in few matches, that's insane. Plus, if the board only want the interim manager to steer Man Utd to 4th place and keep competitive, then they should hire someone else. Ralf is here to build for future so expect roller coaster season for us... sometimes work, sometimes not work...
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lol.... #RROUT... god father sucks.... expected response from man utd fans on him.... hahahahah... everyone wish to have new manager honeymoon period... but too bad this round we dont have it... lol.. its quite obvious the team cant press like RR want them to... and the players immediately fall back to their own hole by playing ole style... anyhow it took more than 1 and half season before klopp win something with liverpool and play gegenpressing the way he wanted... go figure...
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luckily i go to sleep after first half....
no idea why we need 2holding MF all the time....
are the DF so poor to need protection all the time?

VDB should have left during Jan transfer.....
if he cant start during rotation, when he gonna play?
the selection jz doesnt make sense.....
without bruno n pogba, the passing like useless.... cant move the ball at all....

feel glad when i see ronaldo partner cavani but without supply from MF.....
what they gonna do?

hope the manager will go for more open approach....
i dont mind the team to lose but play better football/games....
this game are jz as sucks as ole time.....

telles n dalot are way better in crossing/chip in.....
shaw still acceptable but bissaka cross/passing are hard to believe that he is Ex-winger.....
when there are 2good header in the team, there are no crossing....
what is the manager thinking....


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Wow, lifeless display on first half and a bit better on the 2nd. Ralf got lots to learn. One thing is our midfield still like kosong and McT is no Robbo. There.

I tot AWB did better than usual (which is usually 5/10) with his attacking movement. It did not end up with a goal but much better, say 6/10 lol.

The days of expecting Sancho n Greenwood to be our twin wing terror still looks years in the making.

And rashford has become Welbeck.
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It’s no longer about the manager anymore. Even if this bunch have Pep or Zidane or even Conte as their manager. Can’t even string a few passes together. Wolves are the one pressing us, getting passed the defence easily with slick pressing & yet again if not for DDG it should’ve been more.

Just end the season already.
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Isn't it way to early to go for a kneejerk reaction of calling for the manager's head right now? When he was appointed, there was a sense that it would take at least until Mar to see some tactical adoption within the team due to Dec-Jan fixture congestion.

The pressing triggers weren't implemented well by the players. Either unfamiliarity or refusal to adopt. This is essentially still Ole's team, and they revert to the same playing style that they have been playing the past 3 years whenever they are unsure on the pitch. Tonight was one such night.

Yes, energy in the middle of the park is needed and the Jan tranfers will be interesting.

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C the mf simply pass ball till CR7 also dulan then he drop to mid help them do 1.2 passing show others how to do simple passing doh.gif
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after all is not all Ole's fault, is those mediocre player
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jan 4 2022, 10:01 AM)
Isn't it way to early to go for a kneejerk reaction of calling for the manager's head right now? When he was appointed, there was a sense that it would take at least until Mar to see some tactical adoption within the team due to Dec-Jan fixture congestion.

The pressing triggers weren't implemented well by the players. Either unfamiliarity or refusal to adopt. This is essentially still Ole's team, and they revert to the same playing style that they have been playing the past 3 years whenever they are unsure on the pitch. Tonight was one such night.

Yes, energy in the middle of the park is needed and the Jan tranfers will be interesting.
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well, the majority of the fans already no more patience anymore... they expecting a 10 winning streak like ole interim time... anything lesser... out out out! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif its inevitable we end up like this... everyone expect RR to be messiah immediately tongue.gif tongue.gif
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bruno's shot hitting the crossbar, cavani shooting when could have release ronaldo. this 2 chances memang wasted
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QUOTE(and85rew @ Jan 4 2022, 03:36 AM)
pick matic to play his gegenressing heavy metal football?
why want to handicap everytime select matic?
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Become depressing lo lol. Apart from the solid Burnley game and rr first match that I missed, all other games are very flat tempo, few chances created. Carrick team are much more entertaining, sigh.

Jones memang hebat. Just 1 mistake in game, else solid game. Maguire will have 3 mistakes. I think starting awb is a mistake. Contribute fake crosses only.

It's kinda unfair to blame this is ole team, so they sux and new manager not at fault and can't do shit. I thought before ole sack, it's general consensus, we have the world class players to win? Just that ole dunno manage them? Now new manager, become players fault. Memang merry go round. Like lvg-jm era. Lvg sux, jm come in, become player sux. Repeat. We are stucked lol.

We really miss out conte. Spurs solidly chasing top4 after dismal results by predecessor.


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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Jan 4 2022, 01:43 PM)
Become depressing lo lol. Apart from the solid Burnley game and rr first match that I missed, all other games are very flat tempo, few chances created. Carrick team are much more entertaining, sigh.

Jones memang hebat. Just 1 mistake in game, else solid game. Maguire will have 3 mistakes. I think starting awb is a mistake. Contribute fake crosses only.

It's kinda unfair to blame this is ole team, so they sux and new manager not at fault and can't do shit. I thought before ole sack, it's general consensus, we have the world class players to win? Just that ole dunno manage them? Now new manager, become players fault. Memang merry go round. Like lvg-jm era. Lvg sux, jm come in, become player sux. Repeat. We are stucked lol.

We really miss out conte. Spurs solidly chasing top4 after dismal results by predecessor.
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Agree on Jones
Hope he can stay fit to challenge Maguire/Varane/Lindelof/Bailly

After 1st game, gegenpressing becoming less and less...seems like reverted back to final moments of OGS era
How on earth Ralf picked Matic to play full 90 mins..it is still bizarre
It will take some more time to restore confidence and philosophy to this spoiled team due to OGS
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QUOTE(and85rew @ Jan 4 2022, 01:58 PM)
Agree on Jones
Hope he can stay fit to challenge Maguire/Varane/Lindelof/Bailly

After 1st game, gegenpressing becoming less and less...seems like reverted back to final moments of OGS era
How on earth Ralf picked Matic to play full 90 mins..it is still bizarre
It will take some more time to restore confidence and philosophy to this spoiled team due to OGS
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actually anyone in the team can challenge maguire. but only jones can throw a real challenge cause same passport. biggrin.gif
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Haisshhh..rasanya yang problem semua player..bagi la pep manager pun, result tetap tak boleh menang..
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I just think that, Pep team is all about intelligent, and intelligent need to be bought by money. That's why Pep always in rich club. He need his staffs to find him intelligent players. If Pep in any of non top 4 teams, he will struggles...

Klopps, Ralf team is all about pressing, stamina and energy. This method suits young energetic players. And it is more easier to find such players if given times. Our team currently is seriously lacking in these kind of players, and it is hard to change players behavior overnight.

Zidane team is more about getting the best out of what you have... too bad he was never an option.

The thing I am worry now is, whether the board is seriously going the gengenpressing way. If they do, they need to support Ralf no matter what and also finding someone with the same mindset. Otherwise, it will be another rebuild...

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QUOTE(hocksoo @ Jan 4 2022, 03:46 PM)
I just think that, Pep team is all about intelligent, and intelligent need to be bought by money. That's why Pep always in rich club. He need his staffs to find him intelligent players. If Pep in any of non top 4 teams, he will struggles...

Klopps, Ralf team is all about pressing, stamina and energy. This method suits young energetic players. And it is more easier to find such players if given times. Our team currently is seriously lacking in these kind of players, and it is hard to change players behavior overnight.

Zidane team is more about getting the best out of what you have... too bad he was never an option.

The thing I am worry now is, whether the board is seriously going the gengenpressing way. If they do, they need to support Ralf no matter what and also finding someone with the same mindset. Otherwise, it will be another rebuild...
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something to ponder. we hired RR as interim manager, where he will be consultant after this season. question, what if the new manager prefer another style? wasted effort by RR and conflict between RR and the new manager

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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Jan 4 2022, 04:16 PM)
something to ponder. we hired RR as interim manager, where he will be consultant after this season. question, what if the new manager prefer another style? wasted effort by RR and conflict between RR and the new manager
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Precisely... did the board know what they are doing at all?? Unlike Man City, they already know they will only hire Pep. They setup the club the way Pep want before hire him. Are we going to do the same? And who else will manage like Ralf, playing the same style? Are we limiting ourselves?

That's why a Director of Football is so important! He set the direction for the club and style the team going to play.
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QUOTE(hocksoo @ Jan 4 2022, 03:46 PM)
I just think that, Pep team is all about intelligent, and intelligent need to be bought by money. That's why Pep always in rich club. He need his staffs to find him intelligent players. If Pep in any of non top 4 teams, he will struggles...

Klopps, Ralf team is all about pressing, stamina and energy. This method suits young energetic players. And it is more easier to find such players if given times. Our team currently is seriously lacking in these kind of players, and it is hard to change players behavior overnight.

Zidane team is more about getting the best out of what you have... too bad he was never an option.

The thing I am worry now is, whether the board is seriously going the gengenpressing way. If they do, they need to support Ralf no matter what and also finding someone with the same mindset. Otherwise, it will be another rebuild...
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Precisely... did the board know what they are doing at all?? Unlike Man City, they already know they will only hire Pep. They setup the club the way Pep want before hire him. Are we going to do the same? And who else will manage like Ralf, playing the same style? Are we limiting ourselves?

That's why a Director of Football is so important! He set the direction for the club and style the team going to play.
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Let's see if all of us can agree on the expectations and RR.

Should we judge if RR is the right man for the job?
No. Not at least until the end of the season. A manager has to be given time and space to work with the team.
We are two months in, not two years. There are two types of managers, system managers and adaptable ones. System managers are managers that subscribe to a particular system, like Pep's positional play or Klopp's gegenpressing. Adaptable managers are like Ancelotti, who goes to a team and sets it up the best he can with the players he has. Rangnick is a system manager, and system adoption takes time to drill into the players. Not all players will fit into the system and some will need to go. Like Martial.


Are the results expected?
Yes. With a new tactical approach, what we will see is inconsistency during the bedding in period. Which means bad performances as well as good. Recall the pressure based attacking football in the 1-0 win against Norwich. We should have scored more than one. Constrast that against the dull performance against Wolves and Newcastle.RR is trying to drill in a new style of play into the team, but we can see the team reverting to old styles under Ole from time to time. Players who fail to adapt should be moved on. This is the time to experiment on who can play the new way. Phil Jones being given a chance is good to see. RR is getting to know his players and giving them chances.

Is the draw against Newcastle and loss against Wolves acceptable? No because we are Manchester United. Yes because we are learning to play a new way. Are we making progress? In a sense yes. Because a couple of months ago we were losing 4-2 to LEI, 5-0 to LIV, 2-0 to MCI and 4-1 to Watford. Almost the worst defence in the League. Since then, we have been conceding one goal a game on average. It should get better.


When can we expect Manchester United to play the Manchester United way (Attacking football)?
Personally I think not until next season. Let me put forward the top two world class system managers in the world. Pep and Klopp.
Pep, with an unlimited bank account still took at least two seasons to get the team to play the way he wanted. Fans were laughing at City after the first season and saying Pep was a fraud remember? Klopp? Without oil money, it took him 4 seasons with club backing. To expect RR to transform us completely in half a season might be too much. If I see improvements in play by end of the season and us playing in the right direction, I'd back him for perm manager.


Why is RR playing Matic?
Because he realizes what all of us have been talking about. Matic is the only natural 6 in the team, and both McFred are actually 8s. No surprise Fred and McTominay have been putting in better performances because they have been playing in their preferred positions. Matic is the only 6 which allows the 8 to play but he is too old for the role. The 6 requires natural positioning which nither McFred has. I expect a CDM to be top priority this month to buy.


What if the board appoints a new manager at the end of the season who does not want to play gegenpressing?
Then the board once again is proved to be imcompetent, the footballing soul of Manchester United is dead and we are a corporate entity through and through. RR's appointment is a commitment by the club to play a certain way and whoever the new manager is, it is expected he continue along the same lines instead of resetting the team again. I expect RR to at least have an influence in whoever is going to be appointed, or RR himself to be in that role.


As fans, where do we go from here?
As Sir Alex once said, now is the time to back the manager. We got what we wanted. Ole out. Now back the new man and all players get a clean slate. Step up or get out. If big players like Bruno don't perform, bench them. I'm not sticking up for the players now. Manager has changed, time for the players to be accountable.


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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jan 4 2022, 04:52 PM)
Let's see if all of us can agree on the expectations and RR.

Should we judge if RR is the right man for the job?
No. Not at least until the end of the season. A manager has to be given time and space to work with the team.
We are two months in, not two years. There are two types of managers, system managers and adaptable ones. System managers are managers that subscribe to a particular system, like Pep's positional play or Klopp's gegenpressing. Adaptable managers are like Ancelotti, who goes to a team and sets it up the best he can with the players he has. Rangnick is a system manager, and system adoption takes time to drill into the players. Not all players will fit into the system and some will need to go. Like Martial.
Are the results expected?
Yes. With a new tactical approach, what we will see is inconsistency during the bedding in period. Which means bad performances as well as good. Recall the pressure based attacking football in the 1-0 win against Norwich. We should have scored more than one. Constrast that against the dull performance against Wolves and Newcastle.RR is trying to drill in a new style of play into the team, but we can see the team reverting to old styles under Ole from time to time. Players who fail to adapt should be moved on. This is the time to experiment on who can play the new way. Phil Jones being given a chance is good to see. RR is getting to know his players and giving them chances.

Is the draw against Newcastle and loss against Wolves acceptable? No because we are Manchester United. Yes because we are learning to play a new way. Are we making progress? In a sense yes. Because a couple of months ago we were losing 4-2 to LEI, 5-0 to LIV, 2-0 to MCI and 4-1 to Watford. Almost the worst defence in the League. Since then, we have been conceding one goal a game on average. It should get better.
When can we expect Manchester United to play the Manchester United way (Attacking football)?
Personally I think not until next season. Let me put forward the top two world class system managers in the world. Pep and Klopp.
Pep, with an unlimited bank account still took at least two seasons to get the team to play the way he wanted. Fans were laughing at City after the first season and saying Pep was a fraud remember? Klopp? Without oil money, it took him 4 seasons with club backing. To expect RR to transform us completely in half a season might be too much. If I see improvements in play by end of the season and us playing in the right direction, I'd back him for perm manager.
Why is RR playing Matic?
Because he realizes what all of us have been talking about. Matic is the only natural 6 in the team, and both McFred are actually 8s. No surprise Fred and McTominay have been putting in better performances because they have been playing in their preferred positions. Matic is the only 6 which allows the 8 to play but he is too old for the role. The 6 requires natural positioning which nither McFred has. I expect a CDM to be top priority this month to buy.
What if the board appoints a new manager at the end of the season who does not want to play gegenpressing?
Then the board once again is proved to be imcompetent, the footballing soul of Manchester United is dead and we are a corporate entity through and through. RR's appointment is a commitment by the club to play a certain way and whoever the new manager is, it is expected he continue along the same lines instead of resetting the team again. I expect RR to at least have an influence in whoever is going to be appointed, or RR himself to be in that role.
As fans, where do we go from here?
As Sir Alex once said, now is the time to back the manager. We got what we wanted. Ole out. Now back the new man and all players get a clean slate. Step up or get out. If big players like Bruno don't perform, bench them. I'm not sticking up for the players now. Manager has changed, time for the players to be accountable.
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actually anyone in the team can challenge maguire. but only jones can throw a real challenge cause same passport. biggrin.gif
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Haha true...same England and Jones more senior
At leadt Jones he put huge effort (despite the meme face)
Captain Jones? tongue.gif

One question, given that RR is just interim till June
Will he be given money to sign players?
Will the new players signed prior to new manager fit in for the long run?

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jan 4 2022, 04:52 PM)
Let's see if all of us can agree on the expectations and RR.

Should we judge if RR is the right man for the job?
No. Not at least until the end of the season. A manager has to be given time and space to work with the team.
We are two months in, not two years. There are two types of managers, system managers and adaptable ones. System managers are managers that subscribe to a particular system, like Pep's positional play or Klopp's gegenpressing. Adaptable managers are like Ancelotti, who goes to a team and sets it up the best he can with the players he has. Rangnick is a system manager, and system adoption takes time to drill into the players. Not all players will fit into the system and some will need to go. Like Martial.
Are the results expected?
Yes. With a new tactical approach, what we will see is inconsistency during the bedding in period. Which means bad performances as well as good. Recall the pressure based attacking football in the 1-0 win against Norwich. We should have scored more than one. Constrast that against the dull performance against Wolves and Newcastle.RR is trying to drill in a new style of play into the team, but we can see the team reverting to old styles under Ole from time to time. Players who fail to adapt should be moved on. This is the time to experiment on who can play the new way. Phil Jones being given a chance is good to see. RR is getting to know his players and giving them chances.

Is the draw against Newcastle and loss against Wolves acceptable? No because we are Manchester United. Yes because we are learning to play a new way. Are we making progress? In a sense yes. Because a couple of months ago we were losing 4-2 to LEI, 5-0 to LIV, 2-0 to MCI and 4-1 to Watford. Almost the worst defence in the League. Since then, we have been conceding one goal a game on average. It should get better.
When can we expect Manchester United to play the Manchester United way (Attacking football)?
Personally I think not until next season. Let me put forward the top two world class system managers in the world. Pep and Klopp.
Pep, with an unlimited bank account still took at least two seasons to get the team to play the way he wanted. Fans were laughing at City after the first season and saying Pep was a fraud remember? Klopp? Without oil money, it took him 4 seasons with club backing. To expect RR to transform us completely in half a season might be too much. If I see improvements in play by end of the season and us playing in the right direction, I'd back him for perm manager.
Why is RR playing Matic?
Because he realizes what all of us have been talking about. Matic is the only natural 6 in the team, and both McFred are actually 8s. No surprise Fred and McTominay have been putting in better performances because they have been playing in their preferred positions. Matic is the only 6 which allows the 8 to play but he is too old for the role. The 6 requires natural positioning which nither McFred has. I expect a CDM to be top priority this month to buy.
What if the board appoints a new manager at the end of the season who does not want to play gegenpressing?
Then the board once again is proved to be imcompetent, the footballing soul of Manchester United is dead and we are a corporate entity through and through. RR's appointment is a commitment by the club to play a certain way and whoever the new manager is, it is expected he continue along the same lines instead of resetting the team again. I expect RR to at least have an influence in whoever is going to be appointed, or RR himself to be in that role.
As fans, where do we go from here?
As Sir Alex once said, now is the time to back the manager. We got what we wanted. Ole out. Now back the new man and all players get a clean slate. Step up or get out. If big players like Bruno don't perform, bench them. I'm not sticking up for the players now. Manager has changed, time for the players to be accountable.
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still too early to judge RR. if Ole can get 3 years. RR can get 6 months. cant expect RR to fix our problem within a month esp with no reinforcement and kayu players. my only ask is for him to keep the armband with CR and Maguire away from starting 11. Fit Jones > Maguire any day. happy for Jones to be back. hope he learnt his lesson and not stick his head into every single challenge on field and risk unnecessary injuries.
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QUOTE(and85rew @ Jan 4 2022, 05:13 PM)
Haha true...same England and Jones more senior
At leadt Jones he put huge effort (despite the meme face)
Captain Jones? tongue.gif

One question, given that RR is just interim till June
Will he be given money to sign players?
Will the new players signed prior to new manager fit in for the long run?
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hopefully he has identified future manager (Ten Hag) brows.gif and already in agreement with the manager for the next recruit. similar thing to KDB coming in before Pep previously.
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QUOTE(orga_laut @ Jan 4 2022, 03:56 AM)
this is the product of ole ball

u cant play gegenpressing in short period with these bunch of players
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Still wanna blame Ole? laugh.gif

Look at the player passing, it was damn horrible to look at, simple open space direct pass also cannot pass well shakehead.gif shakehead.gif

I blame at the players rather than the manager
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Jan 4 2022, 05:33 PM)
hopefully he has identified future manager (Ten Hag)  brows.gif  and already in agreement with the manager for the next recruit. similar thing to KDB coming in before Pep previously.
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Maybe if VDB did not want to move is signal for Ten Hag to come? icon_idea.gif
Pity this fella really

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jan 4 2022, 05:39 PM)
Still wanna blame Ole? laugh.gif

Look at the player passing, it was damn horrible to look at, simple open space direct pass also cannot pass well shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif

I blame at the players rather than the manager
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1st thing
Do not start matic

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Do not allow CR/EC to drop so deep
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QUOTE(and85rew @ Jan 4 2022, 05:57 PM)
1st thing
Do not start matic

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Do not allow CR/EC to drop so deep
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with bruno also drop form dy... which midfielder we can start to solve the problem bro sad.gif sad.gif the CM in our squad now seems like very confuse how to execute wad RR want lol
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jan 4 2022, 06:17 PM)
with bruno also drop form dy... which midfielder we can start to solve the problem bro  sad.gif  sad.gif  the CM in our squad now seems like very confuse how to execute wad RR want lol
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Yes..when CR/Cavani work much more to track back compared to Sancho/Greenwood/Cavani…
That is why wolves won the pitch
For mctom..he is decent on his day but average on normal days
And to pair him with immobile matic is a suicidal move
Similar story to pog & co..bruno also lose so much balls
All want to play killler ball w/o proper build up or movement
Great teams can dictate gameplay through midfield, but United cannot
Give them time to rebound from being pampered in ole era…
New manager must be firm and fair…and flexible at the same time..RR is not with his 4222

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jan 4 2022, 05:39 PM)
Still wanna blame Ole? laugh.gif

Look at the player passing, it was damn horrible to look at, simple open space direct pass also cannot pass well shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif

I blame at the players rather than the manager
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At least the manager now has a clear idea on how he wants the team to play. Criticize players performance and make changes. He has only taken charge of the team for a few games. Players will have to adapt or go. No intensity then they must go.

Ole will only suck up to the players and staff. First is get a replacement for the apologetic English fridge. Shaw is at least more straight and open. English bullshit core like Liverpoo l before klopp.
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This was the hot Luke Shaw post match interview that had the backpages on fire. Read between the lines on what he is saying.
Sounds like there is now a split dressing room and not everyone is playing to get behind the manager. Players not doing their press or their role on the pitch.

Ole's loyalists needs to be identified and shipped if they refuse to get on with the program. Enough of internal sabotage at the club by the players.
I am quite concerned at Darren Fletcher's involvement in the coaching setup. Another ex player with no coaching experience and I really hope the mission the United board tasked Rangnick is NOT to train Fletcher up to be the next manager. Because if that is the case and the board is still going with the United DNA trope...I'm going to lose it.


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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jan 5 2022, 12:41 AM)
This was the hot Luke Shaw post match interview that had the backpages on fire. Read between the lines on what he is saying.
Sounds like there is now a split dressing room and not everyone is playing to get behind the manager. Players not doing their press or their role on the pitch.

Ole's loyalists needs to be identified and shipped if they refuse to get on with the program. Enough of internal sabotage at the club by the players.
I am quite concerned at Darren Fletcher's involvement in the coaching setup. Another ex player with no coaching experience and I really hope the mission the United board tasked Rangnick is NOT to train Fletcher up to be the next manager. Because if that is the case and the board is still going with the United DNA trope...I'm going to lose it.


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already got splitting dressing room obviously... those that cant tahan his method and his coaches and those that still remain on the sideline since ole tenure... LOL... and those who reli wanna give themselves a chance under RR... now got 3 groups in the dressing room
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yes, RR need to kick out this MAN UTD DNA as soon as possible.
stop with this DNA, move on from Fergie. of course SAF will watch all games if he can but that doesn't mean he wants other manager to follow his style.


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RR needs his type of players to make it work. But considering his tenure only for 6 months, 1 low key signing probably the best we can hope for. Re train the younger players like Elanga and Amad. This can't happen in weeks.

I always have a cautious optimism. Despite the glowing reviews, RR never mount a serious challenge for CL or big league title. Always in restructuring a new club, hunting promotions, producing a starlets etc.

So we can expect inconsistency, experimental line up, etc.
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Look like dressing room problem is bigger now, RR has to deal with it or else sweat.gif sweat.gif







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fuhh round 2.
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jan 5 2022, 11:25 AM)
Look like dressing room problem is bigger now, RR has to deal with it or else  sweat.gif  sweat.gif






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those wanting to leave should be

VDB, Lingard (WHU?), Bailley, Dalot, Martial, Lindelof?
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those wanting to leave should be

VDB, Lingard (WHU?), Bailley, Dalot, Martial, Lindelof?
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they are free to go, get paid quite high but dont want play for the club



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I am quite bemused why those group not playing under ole is also not playing under rr.

What they see in training we didn't see lol. Vdb can't be worse than matic.

Complain training like shit again lol. This round no mckenna to blame
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Time to kick the old one and promote youth.
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jan 5 2022, 11:25 AM)
Look like dressing room problem is bigger now, RR has to deal with it or else  sweat.gif  sweat.gif






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nothing special gua, write off this season dy... haha... not everyone can be interim like ole... give u 10 winning streak... scoring goals for fun... lol biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jan 5 2022, 12:41 AM)
This was the hot Luke Shaw post match interview that had the backpages on fire. Read between the lines on what he is saying.
Sounds like there is now a split dressing room and not everyone is playing to get behind the manager. Players not doing their press or their role on the pitch.

Ole's loyalists needs to be identified and shipped if they refuse to get on with the program. Enough of internal sabotage at the club by the players.
I am quite concerned at Darren Fletcher's involvement in the coaching setup. Another ex player with no coaching experience and I really hope the mission the United board tasked Rangnick is NOT to train Fletcher up to be the next manager. Because if that is the case and the board is still going with the United DNA trope...I'm going to lose it.

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cmon u know who Ole loyalists are.. Rashy, Bruno, Maguire, Shaw, AWB, McT(50-50), CR7(50-50), Dean(50-50)..

Rashford, Bruno and Maguire 100% for sure.. they have all the freedom on the pitch, do good get praised excessively, do bad get to play next match..
Keep praising them telling they're world class.. the club and fan base as usual overhype them..

No more freedom now they sulking, complaining..

Now they got inflated egos act like double World Cup winners while none of them have win any major trophy at all..
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Jan 5 2022, 12:28 PM)
I am quite bemused why those group not playing under ole is also not playing under rr.

What they see in training we didn't see lol. Vdb can't be worse than matic.

Complain training like shit again lol. This round no mckenna to blame
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Carrick and Mckenna left, and yet still wanna blame assistant coach quality, so this is player problem or coach problem? hmm.gif


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under ole they complain training session not good enough....now under ragnick also they complain the same....gg la this season....better focus rebuilding on next season..
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jan 5 2022, 02:14 PM)
Carrick and Mckenna left, and yet still wanna blame assistant coach quality, so this is player problem or coach problem? hmm.gif
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3 years playing ole-ball., and we expect the same players to play rangnick-heavymetal in just few weeks of training?

lets admit, most man utd fans are delusional

our standard has dropped since ole came in..
when rangnick take over, he already said it very clear, that this is a big club,.no player bigger than the club. what do u think these players will react? ha ha ha ha ha

yes, ole carrick mckena has left. but these players must adapt for a change, or get the hell out of the club. embarrassing
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jan 5 2022, 02:08 PM)
nothing special gua, write off this season dy... haha... not everyone can be interim like ole... give u 10 winning streak... scoring goals for fun... lol  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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i think it was 8 win streak.. 10 wins 2 draws in 12 matches.. Pogba, Martial, Rashford, and even Lukaku was on fire..

now fans dont even want to see them on the pitch.. except for Rashy of course, youth product must support no matter how shit laugh.gif
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Jan 5 2022, 02:23 PM)
i think it was 8 win streak.. 10 wins 2 draws in 12 matches.. Pogba, Martial, Rashford, and even Lukaku was on fire..

now fans dont even want to see them on the pitch.. except for Rashy of course, youth product must support no matter how shit  laugh.gif
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rashford form really dropped much since he become activist....more concerned to become politician than perform on field lmao. laugh.gif laugh.gif

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QUOTE(skystrike @ Jan 5 2022, 02:26 PM)
rashford form really dropped much since he become activist....more concerned to become politician than perform on field lmao. laugh.gif laugh.gif
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rash can tapao dy if no improve since cant use injury excuse... youth kan ada kayuijo
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Jan 5 2022, 02:10 PM)
cmon u know who Ole loyalists are.. Rashy, Bruno, Maguire,  Shaw, AWB, McT(50-50), CR7(50-50), Dean(50-50)..
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Let me use the first player on your list as an example. Rashford.

I think it would be safe to say Rashford has not developed at all the past 2 years, and his form is in a bad place.
He remains a direct one dimensional inside forward who still does not open up play for teammates often enough. More importantly, he has been spending more time than some politicians in off the field social campaigns.

There was a time last season where fans wondered if that time would be better spent training and improving himself. At one point, Ole himself said it. Remember what happened after that?
The next game was a midweek CL game and Ole somehow had to sit beside Rashford and clarify his earlier comments on Rashford! Ole, the manager, had to sit beside the player and clarify to the world that Rashford way in no way distracted and his comments were being misconstrued. If that wsn't a demonstration of player power, I don't know what is.

Rashford has incredible clout at Manchester United and has been well protected. It is time for him to answer the hard question if he is a Manchester United player or a Manchester media personality. If he thinks his personality and his off the field work is more important than the team, then I say RR has to do what Sir Alex did with Beckham and ship him off. No matter how painful it will be. Team first.

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Last year before he got the job, Ralf was saying Shaw is not United's best LB.. said he wouldnt take CR7 or Messi because they are too old.. now he playing both Shaw n CR7 lol.. something is really wrong
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Jan 5 2022, 02:41 PM)
Last year before he got the job, Ralf was saying Shaw is not United's best LB.. said he wouldnt take CR7 or Messi because they are too old..  now he playing both Shaw n CR7 lol.. something is really wrong
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RR has to adapt on what the players he having right now, intensity 90mins pressing is not going to work given to the limited training time, so he can opt for press for 45 mins and switch the tactical a bit.
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Whoever dont want to stay, shipped them out, academy product or not. The only way to move forward is to have players that want to play for the club. Though we need to shipped out probably 90% of the first team laugh.gif

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Whoever dont want to stay, shipped them out, academy product or not. The only way to move forward is to have players that want to play for the club. Though we need to shipped out probably 90% of the first team  laugh.gif
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Players like Cavani shouldve been shipped off too.. begging him to say for what.. why the hell a club like United need to beg the player to stay? doh.gif

half of the time injured.. oh lots of running, elite movements.. yeah right, got no goals to show for.. 5 shots 1 goal, missed sitter regularly..
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jan 5 2022, 02:40 PM)
Let me use the first player on your list as an example. Rashford.

I think it would be safe to say Rashford has not developed at all the past 2 years, and his form is in a bad place.
He remains a direct one dimensional inside forward who still does not open up play for teammates often enough. More importantly, he has been spending more time than some politicians in off the field social campaigns.

There was a time last season where fans wondered if that time would be better spent training and improving himself. At one point, Ole himself said it. Remember what happened after that?
The next game was a midweek CL game and Ole somehow had to sit beside Rashford and clarify his earlier comments on Rashford! Ole, the manager, had to sit beside the player and clarify to the world that Rashford way in no way distracted and his comments were being misconstrued. If that wsn't a demonstration of player power, I don't know what is.

Rashford has incredible clout at Manchester United and has been well protected. It is time for him to answer the hard question if he is a Manchester United player or a Manchester media personality. If he thinks his personality and his off the field work is more important than the team, then I say RR has to do what Sir Alex did with Beckham and ship him off. No matter how painful it will be. Team first.
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lol Lukaku apologize.. Roman sent his goon to his house??
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lol Lukaku apologize.. Roman sent his goon to his house??
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Kek. First mcfred lousy. Then maguire awb shaw. Then bruno Rashford. Wholesale change d lol.

On the other hand, why so stubborn those coach. Study how pep beat the other teams, deploy same tactics la. Dunno Rodri or who say pep single handedly won them the match because of tactic.
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Jan 5 2022, 06:23 PM)
Kek. First mcfred lousy. Then maguire awb shaw. Then bruno Rashford. Wholesale change d lol.

On the other hand, why so stubborn those coach. Study how pep beat the other teams, deploy same tactics la. Dunno Rodri or who say pep single handedly won them the match because of tactic.
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City are full of players that comfortable and confident on the ball, except for maybe John Stones.. because of this, each of them always make themselves available for passes..

United on the other hand, u know la.. some hiding, some straight away lump it forward like a grenade, some dont wanna go up, some dont wanna go down..
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RR's interim tenure might actually be working against him.

Players know he is an interim. And those not supporting the manager will feel that they can outlast the manager. Especially those players on huge multiyear contracts. This reminds me of the old Chelsea dressing room where the players essentially called the shots over the manager.


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- Maguire is not in a position to demand. Unless he is scared his captaincy going to be ripped laugh.gif
- Cavani and Greenwood look like Jedi and Padawan kind of relationship blush.gif

I agreed, by the way, that Ronaldo shouldn't be undroppable (if this report is true). But RR could face backslash from SAF and fans. Kind of tricky for him.
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jan 5 2022, 07:41 PM)
RR's interim tenure might actually be working against him.

Players know he is an interim. And those not supporting the manager will feel that they can outlast the manager. Especially those players on huge multiyear contracts. This reminds me of the old Chelsea dressing room where the players essentially called the shots over the manager.
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- Maguire is not in a position to demand. Unless he is scared his captaincy going to be ripped  laugh.gif
- Cavani and Greenwood look like Jedi and Padawan kind of relationship  blush.gif

I agreed, by the way, that Ronaldo shouldn't be undroppable (if this report is true). But RR could face backslash from SAF and fans. Kind of tricky for him.
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Ya. Maguire bs. All ppl complain Ronaldo but from what I see he is one of the most consistent performers. Not that he play as sux as maguire and undroppable. Ddg definitely no1. I think cavani 2nd, cr 3rd. Greenwood 4th.

Others really not in position to complain
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i hope RR stick with his stand and kick all toxic players

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i hope RR stick with his stand and kick all toxic players
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hard task.. ralf only interim not strong authority

he maybe a good coach but managing star player is something new to him

can see for old and senior player making changes to your game aint gonna be easy and will be harder to adapt
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But Chelsea keep winning trophy
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Chelsea's owner wants to win championships. They do.
United's owner wants money and dividends. They do.
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QUOTE(onepack @ Jan 6 2022, 12:45 PM)
hard task.. ralf only interim not strong authority

he maybe a good coach but managing star player is something new to him

can see for old and senior player making changes to your game aint gonna be easy and will be harder to adapt
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Saf balik interim la. Sure all bola kecut and listen. And he can't manage long long also. Interim best
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those that make noise should be those that cant play.

henderson
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lingard
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time for the younger ones with legs to play
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Greenwood best role is CF..rugi2..
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QUOTE(aa1985 @ Jan 6 2022, 05:09 PM)
Greenwood best role is CF..rugi2..
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The problem is the f Darren Fletcher - hated him then and even more so now
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ole came and lower the standard as according to the board expectation: give good vibe to star players for commercial reasons, target top 4 for UCL, no need to win trophies just go buy commercial value star player into this team is enough.

..then came cristiano ronaldo, the expectation suddenly become very high that even ole cannot control. ole boys become worse. ole got sacked, replaced by no-nonsense ralf rangnick, and ole boys didnt like it even more.

good vibes now gone. so these ole boys want an easy out, just dont play.

of course ole boys need support from their media buddies to make both cristiano ronaldo and ralf rangnick look bad.

now that cristiano ronaldo got the armband, ole boys has had enough already.

imho, no point hiring Eric ten Hag with these ole boys around. just sell them all and rebuild.

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so, kayu is officially out dy?
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Newcastle are currently spending big to buy survival in the premier league. They've just signed Trippier from Athletico Madrid.

Chelsea bought Champions league last season.
Manchester City bought premier league title last season, and will buy another premier league title this season.

Really hate modern football nowadays, Its all about MONEY. furious.gif

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Newcastle are currently spending big to buy survival in the premier league. They've just signed Trippier from Athletico Madrid.

Chelsea bought Champions league last season.
Manchester bought premier league title last season, and will buy another premier league title this season.

Really hate modern football nowadays, Its all about MONEY. furious.gif
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you talked like man united nvr spend mega money... lol
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17 players against RR according to the media... wanna play guess the players?
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17 players against RR according to the media... wanna play guess the players?
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write off this season je... lol... waste of time... dont happy with RR... wad they can do? force out the interim manager? bunch of stupid idiots lol those players... doh.gif doh.gif
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Funny to see all the theories especially the blame game here...im surprise the old trafford kitman and tea lady didnt get the blame..LOL
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look, i dont mind seeing starting 11 all from under 23 from the reserves. Please sack all the 17/18/19/xx players, and lets save the money.

If we don't make it to top 4 its ok. I only want to see us challenge for top 1. If not lets do what it takes to achieve that...

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17 players against RR according to the media... wanna play guess the players?
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camp1: pogba, lingard, rashy and buddies
camp2: henderson, maguire and english speaker players
camp3: benchwarmers -donny, mata, martial,

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ralf camp: degea and the portuguese speaker players lead by cristiano ronaldo who had enough with the lower standards from the camp above

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QUOTE(orga_laut @ Jan 7 2022, 10:37 PM)
camp1: pogba, lingard, rashy and buddies
camp2: henderson, maguire and english speaker players
camp3: benchwarmers -donny, mata, martial,

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ralf camp: degea and the portuguese speaker players lead by cristiano ronaldo who had enough with the lower standards from the camp above
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1st camp is highly likely. But who else falls under that camp though?

2nd camp might be true too. But is Shaw among them or against them?

3rd camp I can't really guess. The one that stood out is Martial. As for Mata, I don't get it. VDB maybe because still no game time for him.

So anymore guess?
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Manchester United interim boss Ralf Rangnick has told discontented players they must be 'professional' in how they deal with their disappointment.

A number of fringe players are known to be unhappy at Old Trafford.

Striker Anthony Martial has asked to leave and negotiations are continuing with Sevilla.

In addition, Jesse Lingard, Donny van de Beek, Dean Henderson, Eric Bailly and Juan Mata are all frustrated at their lack of game time.

Mata, Paul Pogba and Edinson Cavani have contracts that run out at the end of the season.

That has contributed to a sense of unease at United, with levels of negative publicity increasing after the dismal Premier League home defeat by Wolves on 3 January.

Recent reports had suggested midfielder Fred had also been keen to leave but the Brazilian insisted on Friday that was not the case.

"I just want to say that I am very happy here and I have never expressed any dissatisfaction and the possibility of leaving the club," Fred tweeted.

"Don't get misled by fake news. We will continue to work with great dedication to pursue our goals."

Rangnick - brought in after the sacking of Ole Gunnar Solskjaer in November - says he tries to speak to players individually every two or three weeks.

However, doing so after every game is impossible and the German is calling on his squad to be professional in their reactions.

"We have a big squad," he said. "If you have that many players and only 10 outfield players can play, and three being substitutes, then you have quite a number of players who don't play or are not even in the squad. Those players are unhappy about the situation. It's obvious. It's clear.

"We also have players with contracts expiring in the summer and maybe also one or two who want to leave even though they are under contract.

"It's about the players dealing with that situation in a professional way. As far as I can tell so far the players have been doing that. If I realise this is not the case, I will address the players directly."

In addition to unhappy players, Rangnick still has to convince some he is the right man to lead them.

Although the 63-year-old has vast experience, he recent management roles were limited to a couple of seasons at RB Leipzig.

He has brought in two coaches, Chris Armas and Ewan Sharp, who have no top level experience in Europe.

And, while senior United figures are convinced Rangnick will help find the right replacement for Solskjaer at the end of the season, the players are less sure.

However, Rangnick says his squad are buying into his ideas.

"I'm sure they are listening and I think we showed in the last games they are trying to follow the advice I give them," he said.

"We are conceding less goals than before, 0.6 per game compared to an average of 1.7. But it's about balance.

"We need to find the best possible balance between offence and defence. This is still something we have to get better on."


https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/59914385
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We are now seeing the price of Ole's management.

A responsibility free holiday camp for a group of players who call themselves United DNA that is safe from criticism and whose position at the club cannot be touched. A group whose collective egos are big enough to directly challenge any new manager who trespasses into their territory. They may say they are playing for the club, but that is only because they think the club is really themselves. Now at the slightest hint of pressure of raising the standards they go the mutiny route. Many of them are really looking like they are not good enough.

And not just the players. The "jobs for the boys" backroom of Ole who he deems world class but without any real qualifications. Yes, Carrick and McKenna are gone. Nobody really knows what Mike Phelan's role is. He does not take charge of training. He doesn't do press conferences. And he doesn't do game management. Darren Fletcher is a Technical Director at the biggest club in the world without any prior experience. And he must be the first Technical Director to put on a tracksuit and shout instructions at players during games.

Suddenly everyone's position at the club is under threat and they need to band together against the manager.
Fans say Mourinho was toxic. I would say Ole has been the worst manager post Ferguson and we are in a worse state now than post Mourinho.

The Board has to come out publicly to back the manager in making difficult decisions. This will not end well if some Board members privately support some of the dressing room prima donnas.


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we need to let pogba and martial go. mct and fred if we have replacement.
for rashford, if this season still doesn't perform, time to move on
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Lol Pogba have not got back in training also people say he is one of the 17.. funny

Also the alleged 17 not happy players rumors been taken too seriously..
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Lol Pogba have not got back in training also people say he is one of the 17.. funny

Also the alleged 17 not happy players rumors been taken too seriously..
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Yes, it's all rumours for now and I guess the absolute number is not set in stone.
What is known is the different camps and there are some players who are on the fence. RR definitely has his work cut out for him.


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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jan 8 2022, 01:16 PM)
Yes, it's all rumours for now and I guess the absolute number is not set in stone.
What is known is the different camps and there are some players who are on the fence. RR definitely has his work cut out for him.
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yeah totally agree, its a mammoth task for Rangnick..

i do hope when he go upstairs at the end of the season, he will get rid of this endless overhyping of academy players + giving them long term big bucks contract even though they are nowhere near top level..
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nice threads..
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nice threads..
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Sos fb: Harry Maguire is leading the way in the player revolt against Cristiano Ronaldo. It’s though that Ronaldo has called out players on their standards and this has caused ‘unrest’ in some of the squad.

Eat shit la this kapitan. Ole biggest mistake is buy him
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Dembele more epic than jogba.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...ge-demands.html
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Jan 8 2022, 11:23 PM)
Actually same... pogbas minnow on media does more damage to the team and morale
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Jan 8 2022, 09:52 PM)




nice threads..
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Jan 8 2022, 12:56 PM)
Lol Pogba have not got back in training also people say he is one of the 17.. funny

Also the alleged 17 not happy players rumors been taken too seriously..
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While the club is at the biggest mess, he himself at Dubai so called “nursing injury” posted IG story on him having fun time there instead of doing recovery

If I’m RR, I will tell him stay there, don’t ever come back even after recover and continue having fun there until his contract end, if he come back also he won’t be training with first team and even with the reserve.

A back to back game with Villa, they improved a lot since Gerrard arrivals, their games against City almost equalised and Liverpool needed injury time penalty to beat them while we were toying by this 2 teams.

I think it’s time to use 3421, RR’s plan B whenever 4222 is not working. Let the team build on some confidence and momentum then goals will come.

Drop Ronaldo and let Greenwood play upfront supported by Bruno and Sancho, the middle 4 I will prefer McTom + VBD + Telles and Dalot as wingback and back 3 will be Shaw/Lindelof + Varane + Jones

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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jan 9 2022, 12:15 AM)
While the club is at the biggest mess, he himself at Dubai so called “nursing injury” posted IG story on him having fun time there instead of doing recovery

If I’m RR, I will tell him stay there, don’t ever come back even after recover and continue having fun there until his contract end, if he come back also he won’t be training with first team and even with the reserve.
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Oh yeah he posted himself hanging out with family n friends, having dinner, must be he not doing his recovery program..

We couldnt see it, so it must be not happening.. lol the hate is strong

Next thing, Souness was right, colored hairdo makes the players perform lesser.. even though there is no data to back it up lol

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Yes, it's all rumours for now and I guess the absolute number is not set in stone.
What is known is the different camps and there are some players who are on the fence. RR definitely has his work cut out for him.
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pogba case, doesn't matter he is in the camp or not. he just dun have heart for man utd anymore. just let him go.

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pogba case, doesn't matter he is in the camp or not. he just dun have heart for man utd anymore. just let him go.
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There will not be a new offer for pogba other than the one offered to him. No more caving into players ransom. They have to want to play for united and in turn will be rewarded accordingly. If excessive demands are made, the player can move on. This will be united in the coming years.

Mino can look to other clubs. Don't think PSG would want pogba now while real concentrating on attack. Who else can give 400 - 500k per week for a Heartless player like pogba.
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I could have signed elsewhere.. wow he did United a favor by signing.. lol

never won anything, yet ego damn high.. but at least he got the heart for United what
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There will not be a new offer for pogba other than the one offered to him. No more caving into players ransom. They have to want to play for united and in turn will be rewarded accordingly. If excessive demands are made, the player can move on. This will be united in the coming years.

Mino can look to other clubs. Don't think PSG would want pogba now while real concentrating on attack. Who else can give 400 - 500k per week for a Heartless player like pogba.
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Newcastle 😂
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He won't dare. Whatever left with his rep will go down the toilet.
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I could have signed elsewhere.. wow he did United a favor by signing.. lol

never won anything, yet ego damn high.. but at least he got the heart for United what
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It's true. He could have signed elsewhere.
Let's not forget United offered him the most money to join the club compared to what other clubs were offerring.

It is not like he took a paycut to join United.
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jan 9 2022, 08:12 PM)
It's true. He could have signed elsewhere.
Let's not forget United offered him the most money to join the club compared to what other clubs were offerring.

It is not like he took a paycut to join United.
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silly money... this maguire should just keep quiet and stay away from the starting 11..
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Mu should purge all those Diva in locker room. So many times we have seen in MU that the locker room is more powerful than the manager.

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QUOTE(bansai @ Jan 9 2022, 07:58 PM)
He won't dare. Whatever left with his rep will go down the toilet.
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he is 29... maybe one last big contract from him for mino... lets see what role he plays when he rejoined rangnick team
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According to the club’s official website, Maguire said: “I’m the captain and leader in the dressing room, and I’ve had private conversations with the players and the management which will remain private.
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Club captain Maguire has since publicly revealed that he and his team-mates were up 'for the fight,' although Keane has slammed him as 'talking rubbish'.

While on punditry duty for ITV, in response to Maguire's comments, Keane said: "How many times has he said that? I wouldn't listen too much to what Harry has to say.

"I'll judge a player on what he does on a football pitch, not what rubbish he comes out with about players sticking together and we need to do more.

"Judge a player on what he does on a football pitch and United aren't doing enough.


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We are now seeing the price of Ole's management.

A responsibility free holiday camp for a group of players who call themselves United DNA that is safe from criticism and whose position at the club cannot be touched. A group whose collective egos are big enough to directly challenge any new manager who trespasses into their territory. They may say they are playing for the club, but that is only because they think the club is really themselves. Now at the slightest hint of pressure of raising the standards they go the mutiny route. Many of them are really looking like they are not good enough.

And not just the players. The "jobs for the boys" backroom of Ole who he deems world class but without any real qualifications. Yes, Carrick and McKenna are gone. Nobody really knows what Mike Phelan's role is. He does not take charge of training. He doesn't do press conferences. And he doesn't do game management. Darren Fletcher is a Technical Director at the biggest club in the world without any prior experience. And he must be the first Technical Director to put on a tracksuit and shout instructions at players during games.

Suddenly everyone's position at the club is under threat and they need to band together against the manager.
Fans say Mourinho was toxic. I would say Ole has been the worst manager post Ferguson and we are in a worse state now than post Mourinho.

The Board has to come out publicly to back the manager in making difficult decisions. This will not end well if some Board members privately support some of the dressing room prima donnas.
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TBH the players has the fair share of blame as well, u cannot just push everything to Ole. The backroom staff has revamp and yet the problem still afloat. Ole has been sacked, Mckenna and Carrick has left the club, it is time to move on.

Now let Richard Arnold the new CEO to decide who will run the club, from the press it seem he will let the expert to handle football matter and i hope he won't be Kayu 2.0. I have to agree with u, the board has to backup RR or else it will be a disaster, until now i have not heard RR being offer a contract for consultant job for 2 years

Pogba definitely need to leave by this summer, enjoying himself at Dubai at this moment is a bad PR, some more post at his socmed. Now the players can ride on manager head and decide what they want.

QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Jan 8 2022, 11:19 PM)
Sos fb: Harry Maguire is leading the way in the player revolt against Cristiano Ronaldo. It’s though that Ronaldo has called out players on their standards and this has caused ‘unrest’ in some of the squad.

Eat shit la this kapitan. Ole biggest mistake is buy him
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Maguire drop one match and start to rebel? TBH Ronaldo is not the core problem in the team

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jan 10 2022, 11:30 AM)
TBH the players has the fair share of blame as well, u cannot just push everything to Ole. The backroom staff has revamp and yet the problem still afloat. Ole has been sacked, Mckenna and Carrick has left the club, it is time to move on.

Now let Richard Arnold the new CEO to decide who will run the club, from the press it seem he will let the expert to handle football matter and i hope he won't be Kayu 2.0. I have to agree with u, the board has to backup RR or else it will be a disaster, until now i have not heard RR being offer a contract for consultant job for 2 years

Pogba definitely need to leave by this summer, enjoying himself at Dubai at this moment is a bad PR, some more post at his socmed. Now the players can ride on manager head and decide what they want.
Maguire drop one match and start to rebel? TBH Ronaldo is not the core problem in the team
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maguire not droppped leh. he was injured. maybe he angry cause cr ask to up his game. maguire got no standard and he confuse console.gif
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maguire not droppped leh. he was injured. maybe he angry cause cr ask to up his game. maguire got no standard and he confuse console.gif
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QUOTE(and85rew @ Jan 10 2022, 05:07 PM)
how about Captain Jones?  tongue.gif  icon_idea.gif
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jones injured again meh?
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jones injured again meh?
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If Jones can stay fit..he can challenge HM for captain
Jones more senior too
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If Jones can stay fit..he can challenge HM for captain
Jones more senior too
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Do you think it will happen? The Board doesn't give full power to RR

Ralf can't do anything that he needs to play along with the Board decision. HM is a captain and he will be picked unless he is not fit/injury/red card
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Do you think it will happen? The Board doesn't give full power to RR

Ralf can't do anything that he needs to play along with the Board decision. HM is a captain and he will be picked unless he is not fit/injury/red card
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Well..if that is the case..until summer can abandon united games haha
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If I am rr, I will stripped maguire captain and put him on bench. Like arteta after ditch auba, team at least winning streak.

Maguire almost single handedly make ole lose his job on the pitch. Now mau buat geng in dressing room. New virus worse than pogba lol.

Agree with Keane. Always talk rubbish summore.
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Goooal mctom. Asisst by fred
Somehow they missed fred???
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Goooal mctom. Asisst by fred
Somehow they missed fred???
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Lol macam yes.. but Villa kinda slow, really suit United..
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Jan 11 2022, 04:20 AM)
Lol macam yes.. but Villa kinda slow, really suit United..
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Rashford keep losing the ball
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Saved by the bar
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Aiyo leading also cannot keep the ball around longer.. why la
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Rashford 0 iq.
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withoit ronaldo , the front line looks lively .. they really hate him that much issit
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If they keep giving space for Rashford to run on the right side, i think United will score more goals..
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Still no goal from set piece. So strange

Rashford decision making is sooooo frustrating to watch

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Oh man why so hard to keep possession
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Jan 11 2022, 05:10 AM)
Oh man why so hard to keep possession
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No shape
No gegenpressing
Just play biggrin.gif
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Keep inviting pressure..
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No shape
No gegenpressing
Just play  biggrin.gif
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Back to the default Ole's counter attack football.. let the opponent have the ball
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They don't trust midfielder. They just skip from fullback to forward.
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Take out rashford!!!!! Lazy ass. Cavani would have did the follow up
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Jan 11 2022, 05:24 AM)
Back to the default Ole's counter attack football.. let the opponent have the ball
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Painful to wake up early to watch this kind of football
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That is a penalty.. Shaw got lucky
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Bad match. Rashford poor as always

VDB, has he lost it?
Lucky win.
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Can't even control midfield.
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2nd half so shit.. lucky win
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QUOTE(areankim @ Jan 11 2022, 05:52 AM)
Bad match. Rashford poor as always

VDB, has he lost it?
Lucky win.
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Rashfrod can changed his profession already, maybe a politician suit him now.


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"He is an academy boy, his energy is amazing," Rangnick told BBC Sport when asked about United's goalscoring midfielder.

"He now also starts scoring goals and also with some leadership skills. I wouldn't be surprised if in a couple of years he would be the captain of this team."

Midtables for years to come.
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wait when we reli able to play gegenpressing, then only i will wake up to watch man utd match... now is waste of time and energy to even watch at 7.30pm lol
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so when VdB gonna leave?

cup game oso no chance to start ..

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Somehow rr team can win despite play like shit.

After goal, kena tumbuk until hanging on rope only. But we could have been 3-0 if Rashford know how to pass.

Vdb still unable start. Lol. Shaw whacked ppl until blood also no penalty. Really lucky
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To those who watched the gamne, is it true that Rashford was the worst player performance?

From clips, he doesn't seem to be able to function in the role the team needs him to play. He is playing like a number 9 in role where he is expected to connect the play rather than go off on his own.
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To those who watched the gamne, is it true that Rashford was the worst player performance?

From clips, he doesn't seem to be able to function in the role the team needs him to play. He is playing like a number 9 in role where he is expected to connect the play rather than go off on his own.
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QUOTE(and85rew @ Jan 11 2022, 02:09 PM)
He and greenwood both too greedy
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This was making the rounds today. On Rashford not even bothering to go for loose balls.
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jan 11 2022, 03:53 PM)
This was making the rounds today. On Rashford not even bothering to go for loose balls.
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The English media n pundits tryin to push the "mental health/personal problem affecting his game" narrative right now..

If it was Martial or Pogba or other foreigner, fire at will for sure lol
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Jan 11 2022, 04:05 PM)
The English media n pundits tryin to push the "mental health/personal problem affecting his game" narrative right now..

If it was Martial or Pogba or other foreigner, fire at will for sure lol
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If it was Pogba, they would scream that he is going from Jogba to Stopba.
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This was making the rounds today. On Rashford not even bothering to go for loose balls.
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I think if go also cannot get in that instance. More like overreacting. But if ronaldo maybe tap in d.

More frust is he dunno when to pass, instead dribble until lose ball or shot kena block. Many first time pass didn't make. Can easily release ppl clear of defense.
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petulance.. most of them still sulking for Ole..
forward players selfish.. they got used to getting praise for shoot and miss, disguise as 'trying hard'..


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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Jan 11 2022, 05:47 PM)
I think if go also cannot get in that instance. More like overreacting. But if ronaldo maybe tap in d.

More frust is he dunno when to pass, instead dribble until lose ball or shot kena block. Many first time pass didn't make. Can easily release ppl clear of defense.
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If Ronaldo was in that position, I could see him gambling on the rebound the moment the shot was taken. CR7 scored a few easy tapins already by doing that.

Sometimes, it's about looking for the half chances.
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1. Get rid of Scottish players - pure crap
2. Get rid of overhyped Engrand players - pure shite
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lets see if rashford dropped next game
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freakin badass.. salute.. if he was born in the UK, this would be hyped up big time..

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freakin badass.. salute.. if he was born in the UK, this would be hyped up big time..
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freakin badass.. salute.. if he was born in the UK, this would be hyped up big time..
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kind of remind me of Vidic. Injury won't stop him play, play for the badge

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This is called bleeding for the shirt. My respects.
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AC Milan wants to buy Bailly

I think we should sell
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Marcus Rashford faces a big decision over his future at Manchester United as he prepares to open talks over a new contract.
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Tottenham are keen to sign Jesse Lingard and have approached his representatives about a summer move.

Lingard is currently out of favour at Manchester United and his contract is due to expire at the end of the season, when he could join Spurs on a free transfer.

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Sos fb:- Aaron Wan-Bissaka, Luke Shaw and Harry Maguire are the members within the #MUFC squad who are not happy with the treatment from Cristiano Ronaldo

Understand that these players have been criticised heavily by the Portuguese 🇵🇹

Crucial team meeting tomorrow.

Lol, if these are the 3 rebels, they are well deserved to get rollicking



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Talks of a midfield reinforcement transfer but unsure if Rangnick is allowed to make a buy in Jan. Zakaria talks ongoing.

And the English mafia in the dressing room will find out if they still have control.
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Jan 12 2022, 11:47 PM)
Sos fb:- Aaron Wan-Bissaka, Luke Shaw and Harry Maguire are the members within the #MUFC squad who are not happy with the treatment from Cristiano Ronaldo

Understand that these players have been criticised heavily by the Portuguese 🇵🇹

Crucial team meeting tomorrow.

Lol, if these are the 3 rebels, they are well deserved to get rollicking
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Don't think Luke Shaw...

Maguire and Wan Bissaka no surprise. I think there are a lot more players who are "rebels" like spoiled kids

Rashford perhaps, most probably English players, quite rare foreign players will act like a baby


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Man Utd are currently seventh in the Premier League and lie 22 points behind Premier League leaders Man City; Cristiano Ronaldo says it is not acceptable for the club to be targeting anything less than a top-three finish; forward urges doubters to give Ralf Rangnick time
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"Since he arrived five weeks ago he changed many things," said Ronaldo. "But he needs time to put his ideas across to the players.

"It takes time but I believe that he is going to do a good job. We know we aren't playing the best football but we have many games to improve.

"Since he arrived I think in some points we are better, but he needs time. It's not that easy to change the mentality of players and the way they play, the culture, the system like that. I believe that he is going to do a good job."

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Sos fb:- Aaron Wan-Bissaka, Luke Shaw and Harry Maguire are the members within the #MUFC squad who are not happy with the treatment from Cristiano Ronaldo

Understand that these players have been criticised heavily by the Portuguese 🇵🇹

Crucial team meeting tomorrow.

Lol, if these are the 3 rebels, they are well deserved to get rollicking
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luke shaw still ok kot, he is playing better than the other 2... awb and capitan keep going backwards this season... awb from best 1 to 1 defender to dunno how to defend anymore... lol... not to mention his attacking pedigree... he kinda like darmian... one season wonder
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Maguire - one of the worst decisions ever made by Ole
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QUOTE(Azury36 @ Jan 13 2022, 12:49 AM)
Don't think Luke Shaw...

Maguire and Wan Bissaka no surprise. I think there are a lot more players who are "rebels" like spoiled kids

Rashford perhaps, most probably English players, quite rare foreign players will act like a baby
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luke shaw still ok kot, he is playing better than the other 2... awb and capitan keep going backwards this season... awb from best 1 to 1 defender to dunno how to defend anymore... lol... not to mention his attacking pedigree... he kinda like darmian... one season wonder
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most highly likely Luke Shaw one of them.. after good performances in one season, callling him Shawberto Carlos lol.. overhyped and overweight.. it took Williams and Telles coming in to make him step up..


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now we can see who is the most important player at United right now.. PR come out in full force to protect him..
fans eat it all up lol.. train for 12 hours? bullshit la..

see the difference of treatment when certain players underperformed ?

Martial = lazy, disinterested
Pogba = virus, lazy, too much social media, dancing, colored hair
VDB = not good enough, cant handle PL fast pace n robust physicality
Dalot = not good enough for PL, this is not Serie A

Rashford = mental health, just broken up with gf, too much pressure, havent recover from injuries.. blabla always got excuses

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now we can see who is the most important player at United right now.. PR come out in full force to protect him..
fans eat it all up lol.. train for 12 hours? bullshit la..

see the difference of treatment when certain players underperformed ?

Martial = lazy, disinterested
Pogba = virus, lazy, too much social media, dancing, colored hair
VDB = not good enough, cant handle PL fast pace n robust physicality
Dalot = not good enough for PL, this is not Serie A

Rashford = mental health, just broken up with gf, too much pressure, havent recover from injuries.. blabla always got excuses
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lol in general i think alot of fans also hentam him bro... the comments i see from FB... alot ask him to be politician LOL biggrin.gif biggrin.gif if u say which player the fans will forgive more... it will be definitely CR... the rest... will kena open trigger anytime...
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jan 13 2022, 05:17 PM)
lol in general i think alot of fans also hentam him bro... the comments i see from FB... alot ask him to be politician LOL  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif if u say which player the fans will forgive more... it will be definitely CR... the rest... will kena open trigger anytime...
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What im saying is that the club with the media go all out protecting him.. other players didn't get the same treatment..
This kid is very special to United.. even Beckham didnt get this kind of treatment..


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What im saying is that the club with the media go all out protecting him.. other players didn't get the same treatment..
This kid is very special to United.. even Beckham didnt get this kind of treatment..
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oh yeah this is very true... so far he is like the most well protected player in united... other academy players also din get such treatment... maybe rashford have commercial value to the club kot... they can save on CSR tongue.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Jan 12 2022, 11:47 PM)
Sos fb:- Aaron Wan-Bissaka, Luke Shaw and Harry Maguire are the members within the #MUFC squad who are not happy with the treatment from Cristiano Ronaldo

Understand that these players have been criticised heavily by the Portuguese 🇵🇹

Crucial team meeting tomorrow.

Lol, if these are the 3 rebels, they are well deserved to get rollicking
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our shitty kapitan.... i think many fans also don't give a shit if maguire is shipped out. Really kena conned by Leicester...
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...-interview.html

We're capable of changing things now. I know the way but I'm not going to mention it here because I don't think it's ethical on my part to say that. What I can say is we can do better - all of us... I'm here to try to win, compete.'

Inilah winning mentality. Not weekly apology. I know the way lol. Sure is dump kapitan maguire
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"The mature players, the older players can always help the young players," Ronaldo told Premier League Productions. "But, I can give you an example, if I give you advice, even if you are younger than me and if you don't implant that in a daily life it will be difficult.
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"You can speak all day with that person. If he's not coming from inside of you it's impossible. I remember when I was 18, 19, 20, some old players speak with me and I put that as, 'Cristiano, you know you have to improve. They know more than you, they are more experienced than you'. They passed through many bad moments.

"But the other people (youngsters), they don't accept that if you criticise them. I don't say this in relation to our players but in general. I have kids, I know. Sometimes when you're a little bit harder, they do the opposite, you have to find the right balance to speak with them.
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"To build new things you must destroy other things".
Shots fired. Loud & clear.


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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Jan 13 2022, 08:37 PM)
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Isn't that insightful?
We were thinking the youngsters were blessed of getting experience mentors like Cavani and Ronaldo. Now we are finding out the younger players don't want to.

Remember a month or two ago where all the media were targetting Ronaldo for making United worse and he doesn't press?
Looks like a media attack now from the dressing room camp using their PR tools.

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"To build new things you must destroy other things".
Shots fired. Loud & clear.


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".. I know the way but I'm not going to mention it here"

haha

... and ole boys hate that.
ole boys + media buddies = a good teamwork

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Man Utd really have a lot of issues, from manager not competent enough to coaching staffs not good enough. Then say Ronaldo is not doing a good job till today that young players don't want senior to tell them what to do.

If anyone is talking about club tradition, it has already been destroyed. The club is now a mess. The day where Sir Alex priorities senior leadership from the players to pass the winning mentality to next generation are long gone.

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jan 13 2022, 11:35 PM)
Isn't that insightful?
We were thinking the youngsters were blessed of getting experience mentors like Cavani and Ronaldo. Now we are finding out the younger players don't want to.

Remember a month or two ago where all the media were targetting Ronaldo for making United worse and he doesn't press?
Looks like a media attack now from the dressing room camp using their PR tools.
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and then there are comments that united play better without Ronaldo. but when he plays i see he doesnt get the passes from the players tongue.gif that he has to drop back get the ball himself. lets see if thats the players who are playing player power, this time not against the coach but against cr7
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Jan 14 2022, 03:29 AM)
another englishman? surprise pikachu
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now even 10 men arsenal also playing better than our 11 strongest... lol... this transition period gonna be a long and suffering one
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Sportsmail has also learned of one example where Ronaldo complained privately that he is one of the only United players who goes to the gym to do extra work before and after training at Carrington.

Topkek. Got world no 1 or 2 player to learn from also dunwan follow
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Sell Dean Henderson, save 100k per week.

Ddg is our starter and he has earned it.

I blame the press and ole for his big head. Hyped to the max. Another overrated English.
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Jan 14 2022, 10:23 AM)
Sportsmail has also learned of one example where Ronaldo complained privately that he is one of the only United players who goes to the gym to do extra work before and after training at Carrington.

Topkek. Got world no 1 or 2 player to learn from also dunwan follow
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QUOTE(hocksoo @ Jan 14 2022, 08:23 AM)
Man Utd really have a lot of issues, from manager not competent enough to coaching staffs not good enough. Then say Ronaldo is not doing a good job till today that young players don't want senior to tell them what to do.

If anyone is talking about club tradition, it has already been destroyed. The club is now a mess. The day where Sir Alex priorities senior leadership from the players to pass the winning mentality to next generation are long gone.
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lagi sakit, OLE break the tradition kan??by made maguire captain..
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Jan 14 2022, 08:35 AM)
and then there are comments that united play better without Ronaldo. but when he plays i see he doesnt get the passes from the players  tongue.gif that he has to drop back get the ball himself. lets see if thats the players who are playing player power, this time not against the coach but against cr7
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Even CR7 & EC21 worked much harder than Sancho/Rashford/Greenwood, can see how deep they go down to win ball

Greenwood is simply retarded, did not want to pass to CR7 and wants personal glory

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Rashford, he has Zlatan then Cavani and now Ronaldo to learn with but he learned nothing but become worst than he first debut as no 39 or even no 19 that time

Greenwood has Cavani and now Ronaldo and he also learned nothing

When we need both of them to step up and share the goals with Ronaldo or Cavani they didn’t, so when Ronaldo or Cavani facing goal shy, the whole team don’t know what to do
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QUOTE(and85rew @ Jan 14 2022, 05:20 PM)
Even CR7 & EC21 worked much harder than Sancho/Rashford/Greenwood, can se ehow deep they go dowb to win ball
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The other half of the story is if the strikers need to drop deep, it also means that the Sancho/Rashford/Greenwood line isn't doing their job of getting the ball to the forwards.
How many passes do our forwards receive and how many chances per game does the team generate for the forwards?
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The other half of the story is if the strikers need to drop deep, it also means that the Sancho/Rashford/Greenwood line isn't doing their job of getting the ball to the forwards.
How many passes do our forwards receive and how many chances per game does the team generate for the forwards?
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MG needs to play as a team
in prev game MG can pass to MR but did not yawn.gif
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jan 15 2022, 01:14 AM)
Rashford, he has Zlatan then Cavani and now Ronaldo to learn with but he learned nothing but become worst than he first debut as no 39 or even no 19 that time

Greenwood has Cavani and now Ronaldo and he also learned nothing

When we need both of them to step up and share the goals with Ronaldo or Cavani they didn’t, so when Ronaldo or Cavani facing goal shy, the whole team don’t know what to do
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mason is a CF.

young cavani and cristiano was as selfish as mason. young cristiano even worse, tend to dribble a lot, and his crossing was shit.

to me , just play mason as a CF, OR benched him. he is not wayne rooney.

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Today cm fred + matic?
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Today cm fred + matic?
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Lucky you mentioned. I thought Sunday midnight game
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I'm not looking forward to the game

not even sure if I want to watch :S
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I bet its mcfred again. As much as ppl complain mcfred under ole, after rr rotation for every players, giving them chances, mcfred is still the one give most energy
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Totally no CR7, Rashford, AWB + 2 goalkeeper on the bench.
Quite sure it is bcuz of Covid.

Well, seems like stubborn stubborn RR finally gave up 4222.
Gonna watch this match then.
4222 really make me vomit blood.

Players already lost, still forcing them to adapt a weird formation, not helping. At least he changed.

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rangnick is the same as ole. talk about how good vdb is but never start him.
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rangnick is the same as ole. talk about how good vdb is but never start him.
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Some stupid fans saying it is VDB problem since 2 coach also not using him.
The problem is, if not using him, let him go.

It is not like the player want senang senang stay on bench and receive salary.
He want to play regular football.
They are killing the player.

Then the same fans started to argue, when COVID affecting, we will start to cry.
Well, I already crying 2 season for VDB.
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VDB put in transfer request la.. save your career, not too late now
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Well, with this, I still believe RR is slightly better than Ole.
Never rush to bring back injured players.
Last time Captain 4 weeks out (or 2 months ya?), 1 training session, play as lineup. Ole the legend.
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I bet its mcfred again. As much as ppl complain mcfred under ole, after rr rotation for every players, giving them chances, mcfred is still the one give most energy
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Mctom banned ma. So its fred matic hehe
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Matic...
And Fred
Hope no big hole in mf
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Well, with this, I still believe RR is slightly better than Ole.
Never rush to bring back injured players.
Last time Captain 4 weeks out (or 2 months ya?), 1 training session, play as lineup. Ole the legend.
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There is a possibility that RR is sending a message to the dressing room.
I think people are being dropped but given the public excuse of being injured.
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Haha early gift
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Lol nice goal.. goalie noob.. but United been controlling the ball well wei.. refreshing to see
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There is a possibility that RR is sending a message to the dressing room.
I think people are being dropped but given the public excuse of being injured.
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Team looking more cohesive. Cavani seems a natural fit as a pressing forward.
Look at Cavani leading the line with pressing traps and triggers. The second line of Elanga and Fernandes much more willing to press.
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Greenwood taking too long to shoot.
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United suddenly no longer pressing, but allowing Villa to pass the halfway line before engaging.
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United suddenly no longer pressing, but allowing Villa to pass the halfway line before engaging.
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So the key to get United playing like a team is less English players?
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Bruno and his failed passes again
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So the key to get United playing like a team is less English players?
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Less comfort zone players more like.
So happens the players having a holiday at the club are the English core according to rumours.
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cavani new center back? full back? wingback?
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Fred oh Fred wake up.

And again!!!! Too often!!

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Panic mode comeback again.. cannot keep the ball.. rush eveything
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Again saved by de gea
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All over the place d
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Hanging on, just get to halftime to reorganize.
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Elanga is average. No speed, skill and agility.
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Leading 0-1, why wanna rush counter attack.. recycle the ball build up patiently ler..

So hard to get Ole ball out from their head..
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That back pass to DDG from Bruno to calm things down restored my faith a bit for him as a midfielder..
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This is looking desperate
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None of the left and right players want to pass to Cavani, all want to shoot
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Brunooooooooooooooooo
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post Jan 16 2022, 03:01 AM

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This greenwood damn selfish
and85rew
post Jan 16 2022, 03:02 AM

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Holy.. greenwood...all he think is shoot..
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post Jan 16 2022, 03:04 AM

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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Jan 16 2022, 02:58 AM)
None of the left and right players want to pass to Cavani, all want to shoot
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Notice this. Especially greenwood.

and85rew
post Jan 16 2022, 03:09 AM

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Leak...game on..
areankim
post Jan 16 2022, 03:11 AM

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we created the chance for villa... jialat.. all the panic.
tzxsean
post Jan 16 2022, 03:13 AM

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Comical defending
and85rew
post Jan 16 2022, 03:13 AM

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Wtf comeback...and it is coutinho..
areankim
post Jan 16 2022, 03:14 AM

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what a joke 2 goals gives away
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post Jan 16 2022, 03:15 AM

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Good night
and85rew
post Jan 16 2022, 03:15 AM

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If only greenwood pass..it could have been 3..
tzxsean
post Jan 16 2022, 03:15 AM

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RR did ntg to fix the possession problem and now it bites back
silvertoes
post Jan 16 2022, 03:16 AM

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All that selfish shooting looks wasteful now
tzxsean
post Jan 16 2022, 03:18 AM

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Passing and receiving pass oso like shit
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post Jan 16 2022, 03:18 AM

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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Jan 16 2022, 03:15 AM)
RR did ntg to fix the possession problem and now it bites back
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because he have no choice

Ralf Rangnick is just a puppet
areankim
post Jan 16 2022, 03:19 AM

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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Jan 16 2022, 03:18 AM)
Passing and receiving pass oso like shit
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2nd half, forgot how to pass. or keep the ball.
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post Jan 16 2022, 03:20 AM

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Matic getting slower as the game goes.. Bruno should've stick to midfield for support instead of free-roaming right after leading 2-0
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post Jan 16 2022, 03:21 AM

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what kinda sub is this at 88min? damn it

matic getting slower and sloppy past 60mins... always, every game, but nv got sub.

This post has been edited by areankim: Jan 16 2022, 03:21 AM

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