rindu zaman fergie. dont need to spend much. players playing to win. hate losing because they are always winners. players now taking losses just another game.. they don't know what's it like to be champion..so losing is just another normalo day fr them, except the likes of Ronaldo. But the majority of the team just too many rubbish mentality player.

The board doesn't know what they are doing otherwise they already hire tuchel or conte. They are the one hindering this club.

Let's see if all of us can agree on the expectations and RR.

Should we judge if RR is the right man for the job?
No. Not at least until the end of the season. A manager has to be given time and space to work with the team.
We are two months in, not two years. There are two types of managers, system managers and adaptable ones. System managers are managers that subscribe to a particular system, like Pep's positional play or Klopp's gegenpressing. Adaptable managers are like Ancelotti, who goes to a team and sets it up the best he can with the players he has. Rangnick is a system manager, and system adoption takes time to drill into the players. Not all players will fit into the system and some will need to go. Like Martial.


Are the results expected?
Yes. With a new tactical approach, what we will see is inconsistency during the bedding in period. Which means bad performances as well as good. Recall the pressure based attacking football in the 1-0 win against Norwich. We should have scored more than one. Constrast that against the dull performance against Wolves and Newcastle.RR is trying to drill in a new style of play into the team, but we can see the team reverting to old styles under Ole from time to time. Players who fail to adapt should be moved on. This is the time to experiment on who can play the new way. Phil Jones being given a chance is good to see. RR is getting to know his players and giving them chances.

Is the draw against Newcastle and loss against Wolves acceptable? No because we are Manchester United. Yes because we are learning to play a new way. Are we making progress? In a sense yes. Because a couple of months ago we were losing 4-2 to LEI, 5-0 to LIV, 2-0 to MCI and 4-1 to Watford. Almost the worst defence in the League. Since then, we have been conceding one goal a game on average. It should get better.


When can we expect Manchester United to play the Manchester United way (Attacking football)?
Personally I think not until next season. Let me put forward the top two world class system managers in the world. Pep and Klopp.
Pep, with an unlimited bank account still took at least two seasons to get the team to play the way he wanted. Fans were laughing at City after the first season and saying Pep was a fraud remember? Klopp? Without oil money, it took him 4 seasons with club backing. To expect RR to transform us completely in half a season might be too much. If I see improvements in play by end of the season and us playing in the right direction, I'd back him for perm manager.


Why is RR playing Matic?
Because he realizes what all of us have been talking about. Matic is the only natural 6 in the team, and both McFred are actually 8s. No surprise Fred and McTominay have been putting in better performances because they have been playing in their preferred positions. Matic is the only 6 which allows the 8 to play but he is too old for the role. The 6 requires natural positioning which nither McFred has. I expect a CDM to be top priority this month to buy.


What if the board appoints a new manager at the end of the season who does not want to play gegenpressing?
Then the board once again is proved to be imcompetent, the footballing soul of Manchester United is dead and we are a corporate entity through and through. RR's appointment is a commitment by the club to play a certain way and whoever the new manager is, it is expected he continue along the same lines instead of resetting the team again. I expect RR to at least have an influence in whoever is going to be appointed, or RR himself to be in that role.


As fans, where do we go from here?
As Sir Alex once said, now is the time to back the manager. We got what we wanted. Ole out. Now back the new man and all players get a clean slate. Step up or get out. If big players like Bruno don't perform, bench them. I'm not sticking up for the players now. Manager has changed, time for the players to be accountable.

I excited for RR for the club building not his managing, so I hope we stick to the plan of getting a long term manager after this season. I really hope we do sign some RB players in this window mainly Laimer and Josko Gvardiol

Haha true...same England and Jones more senior
At leadt Jones he put huge effort (despite the meme face)
Captain Jones?

One question, given that RR is just interim till June
Will he be given money to sign players?
Will the new players signed prior to new manager fit in for the long run?

This post has been edited by and85rew: Jan 4 2022, 05:19 PM

still too early to judge RR. if Ole can get 3 years. RR can get 6 months. cant expect RR to fix our problem within a month esp with no reinforcement and kayu players. my only ask is for him to keep the armband with CR and Maguire away from starting 11. Fit Jones > Maguire any day. happy for Jones to be back. hope he learnt his lesson and not stick his head into every single challenge on field and risk unnecessary injuries.

hopefully he has identified future manager (Ten Hag) and already in agreement with the manager for the next recruit. similar thing to KDB coming in before Pep previously.

Still wanna blame Ole?

Look at the player passing, it was damn horrible to look at, simple open space direct pass also cannot pass well

I blame at the players rather than the manager

Maybe if VDB did not want to move is signal for Ten Hag to come?
Pity this fella really

1st thing
Do not start matic

2nd
Do not allow CR/EC to drop so deep

with bruno also drop form dy... which midfielder we can start to solve the problem bro the CM in our squad now seems like very confuse how to execute wad RR want lol

Yes..when CR/Cavani work much more to track back compared to Sancho/Greenwood/Cavani…
That is why wolves won the pitch
For mctom..he is decent on his day but average on normal days
And to pair him with immobile matic is a suicidal move
Similar story to pog & co..bruno also lose so much balls
All want to play killler ball w/o proper build up or movement
Great teams can dictate gameplay through midfield, but United cannot
Give them time to rebound from being pampered in ole era…
New manager must be firm and fair…and flexible at the same time..RR is not with his 4222

At least the manager now has a clear idea on how he wants the team to play. Criticize players performance and make changes. He has only taken charge of the team for a few games. Players will have to adapt or go. No intensity then they must go.

Ole will only suck up to the players and staff. First is get a replacement for the apologetic English fridge. Shaw is at least more straight and open. English bullshit core like Liverpoo l before klopp.

This was the hot Luke Shaw post match interview that had the backpages on fire. Read between the lines on what he is saying.
Sounds like there is now a split dressing room and not everyone is playing to get behind the manager. Players not doing their press or their role on the pitch.

Ole's loyalists needs to be identified and shipped if they refuse to get on with the program. Enough of internal sabotage at the club by the players.
I am quite concerned at Darren Fletcher's involvement in the coaching setup. Another ex player with no coaching experience and I really hope the mission the United board tasked Rangnick is NOT to train Fletcher up to be the next manager. Because if that is the case and the board is still going with the United DNA trope...I'm going to lose it.

already got splitting dressing room obviously... those that cant tahan his method and his coaches and those that still remain on the sideline since ole tenure... LOL... and those who reli wanna give themselves a chance under RR... now got 3 groups in the dressing room

yes, RR need to kick out this MAN UTD DNA as soon as possible.
stop with this DNA, move on from Fergie. of course SAF will watch all games if he can but that doesn't mean he wants other manager to follow his style.

RR needs his type of players to make it work. But considering his tenure only for 6 months, 1 low key signing probably the best we can hope for. Re train the younger players like Elanga and Amad. This can't happen in weeks.

I always have a cautious optimism. Despite the glowing reviews, RR never mount a serious challenge for CL or big league title. Always in restructuring a new club, hunting promotions, producing a starlets etc.

So we can expect inconsistency, experimental line up, etc.

Look like dressing room problem is bigger now, RR has to deal with it or else

fuhh round 2.