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post Oct 11 2021, 12:38 AM, updated 5y ago

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In a nutshell:

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Pull-Ups = when your palms are pronated (overhand grip), facing away from you.



Chin-Ups = when your palms are supinated (underhand grip), facing towards you



neutral-grip pull-up

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post Oct 11 2021, 12:42 AM

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I can’t even do one rep lol
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post Oct 11 2021, 12:43 AM

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To some people chin up is easier.

But i trained alot pull ups.

...i am fat now. But still can do 6/ 10 times.

Maybe 30 per session. Or maybe less. See form.

Fcuk.. i m fat.
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post Oct 11 2021, 12:44 AM

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QUOTE(badmilk @ Oct 11 2021, 12:43 AM)
To some people chin up is easier.

But i trained alot pull ups.

...i am fat now. But still can do 6/ 10 times.

Maybe 30 per session. Or maybe less. See form.

Fcuk.. i m fat.
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post Oct 11 2021, 12:46 AM

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QUOTE(un.deux.trois @ Oct 11 2021, 12:42 AM)
I can’t even do one rep lol
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My pt taught me last time .. if u cant pull urself up. Just start slowly.

Grip and dont let go.. hang .

Then slowly put a chair . And train slowly. Or ask support.

U need build slowly. No fast way. But after u got foundation. U will never lose it.or easy to regain.

When i first learn i was 70kg.

Now i m 85kg.. chubby. But still can.
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post Oct 11 2021, 12:46 AM

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If all you want is a nice big back, there's no need to do pull ups.

Your traps don't attach to your humerus at all. It attaches to your clavicle and scapula and mainly performs scapular movements.

Your lats insert on the humerus but to efficiently contract them to their origin at the base of your spine you need to work each side independently.
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post Oct 11 2021, 12:47 AM

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Oct 11 2021, 12:44 AM)
I think 29. Or so. Very fat la me. Macam doraemon d.
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post Oct 11 2021, 12:48 AM

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During MCO, my max rep was 20 without stopping
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post Oct 11 2021, 12:51 AM

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QUOTE(badmilk @ Oct 11 2021, 12:46 AM)
My pt taught me last time .. if u cant pull urself up. Just start slowly.

Grip and dont let go.. hang .

Then slowly put a chair . And train slowly. Or ask support.

U need build slowly. No fast way. But after u got foundation.  U will never lose it.or easy to regain.

When i first learn i was 70kg.

Now i m 85kg.. chubby. But still can.
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why need a chair??
very high?


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post Oct 11 2021, 12:52 AM

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QUOTE(Ashraf Farid @ Oct 11 2021, 12:46 AM)
If all you want is a nice big back, there's no need to do pull ups.

Your traps don't attach to your humerus at all. It attaches to your clavicle and scapula and mainly performs scapular movements.

Your lats insert on the humerus but to efficiently contract them to their origin at the base of your spine you need to work each side independently.
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post Oct 11 2021, 12:54 AM

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Oct 11 2021, 12:51 AM)
why need a chair??
very high?
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If u cant pull urself up. The chair is for ur landing and to cheat push.

The reason why i think i like pull up bcoz it engage my shoulder more..while chin up builds triceps more.

Broader shoulder = v ... but it hides ur tummy. Not so obvious too.

Coz u broad shoulder with big tummy.. can lie ma. Haha..at least can fill shirt.
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post Oct 11 2021, 12:57 AM

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Watching Arrow made me do both
Don’t think i can do the salmon ladder though
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post Oct 11 2021, 12:59 AM

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QUOTE(badmilk @ Oct 11 2021, 12:46 AM)
My pt taught me last time .. if u cant pull urself up. Just start slowly.

Grip and dont let go.. hang .

Then slowly put a chair . And train slowly. Or ask support.

U need build slowly. No fast way. But after u got foundation.  U will never lose it.or easy to regain.

When i first learn i was 70kg.

Now i m 85kg.. chubby. But still can.
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how tall are you?
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post Oct 11 2021, 01:01 AM

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Oct 11 2021, 12:52 AM)
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I got no issues with the lower back stuff, but honestly anything where you're holding weight in front of you and bending over will work the erector spinae.

By the way, the colour highlights are completely off.

This is what the erector spinae look like

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They peek out at the bottom of your back but the whole muscle runs the length of your spine. It keeps your back from rounding and collapsing forward.

The part on the outer edges of the 'lower back' are your lats.

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They originate at the base of your spine and run the length of either side of your back.

The rest of the exercises listed are ok, but far from ideal to train these muscles efficiently bro.
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post Oct 11 2021, 01:04 AM

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QUOTE(imin @ Oct 11 2021, 12:59 AM)
how tall are you?
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170cm. / 85kg.

Bmi abt 29 ish.
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post Oct 11 2021, 01:06 AM

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QUOTE(badmilk @ Oct 11 2021, 01:04 AM)
170cm. / 85kg.

Bmi abt 29 ish.
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frankly speaking 85kg for 170cm is fat lol. due to mco?
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QUOTE(imin @ Oct 11 2021, 01:06 AM)
frankly speaking 85kg for 170cm is fat lol. due to mco?
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Long time loh. Since married. Got baby. Become daddy.

Ya i am aware i fat d. Infact my wardrobe changes every 6 months.

Aihz.. fuck . My pants at january buy. Now cant wear d.

Yes .. food and no exercise.

Only exercise i had was sex... but macam not helpful.

Could resort to keto diet soon.
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post Oct 11 2021, 01:24 AM

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QUOTE(badmilk @ Oct 11 2021, 01:10 AM)
Infact my wardrobe changes every 6 months.
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That sounds dangerous bro. Anyway at least you're aware of it and plan to do something about it... so good luck and all the best.
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post Oct 11 2021, 01:35 AM

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Then salmon ladder is for what?
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post Oct 11 2021, 01:41 AM

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why is this not a genting thread?
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post Oct 11 2021, 02:50 AM

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post Oct 11 2021, 07:10 AM

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QUOTE(kamfoo @ Oct 11 2021, 02:50 AM)
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Usa military???
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post Oct 11 2021, 02:51 PM

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When i was 75kg i can do 10 reps chin up.

now 85kg cant even do one.

fak my life!
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post Oct 24 2021, 09:16 PM

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post Oct 24 2021, 09:23 PM

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I think i dropped alot.
Last time can do 50 straight. Now only 25

Need to back to exercise!
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post Oct 24 2021, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(3rdEdition @ Oct 24 2021, 09:23 PM)
I think i dropped alot.
Last time can do 50 straight. Now only 25

Need to back to exercise!
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Is your one rep starting from dead hang at the bottom to chin above bar the top?

If yes, I will worship you
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post Oct 24 2021, 10:08 PM

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just do all. rotate them. but need to feel your back working. if not, wont see back growing.
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post Oct 24 2021, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(ukauka2020 @ Oct 24 2021, 10:08 PM)
just do all. rotate them. but need to feel your back working. if not, wont see back growing.
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rotate???
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post Oct 24 2021, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Oct 24 2021, 10:12 PM)
rotate???
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like one week do pullup. the other do chin up lo. unless youre able to do all in the same day.
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post Oct 24 2021, 10:26 PM

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Chin up easier than pull up.
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post Oct 24 2021, 10:26 PM

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post Oct 24 2021, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(un.deux.trois @ Oct 11 2021, 12:42 AM)
I can’t even do one rep lol
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Not many people can do 1 rep if they've never done before. Need to train wan. Let your muscles find its form then it'll be easy.

I could hardly do a rep too last time, after a while, when I was doing stronglifts, I can do 6 reps with 20kg plate hanging around my waist.
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QUOTE(New Klang @ Oct 24 2021, 09:31 PM)
Is your one rep starting from dead hang at the bottom to chin above bar the top?

If yes,  I will worship you
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+1 must be really strong. I can only do 36 max on a good day 38

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post Oct 24 2021, 11:19 PM

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Last year I bought a pull up station.
At first cannot even do 1.

Good thing about pull up station is that the height of the bar is adjustable.
So I adjust the bar lower.
Kept trying and practising until I can do pull up and chin up.
Chin up is easier as I can use biceps.
As I got better, I raise the height of the bar to make it harder.

Now can do a few reps.
Not very good but at least better than when I started.
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Both also important gua, depends you want to build biceps or your lats.
But many other exercises benefits biceps more, so pull up for me.
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QUOTE(CoffeeDude @ Oct 24 2021, 03:19 AM)
Last year I bought a pull up station.
At first cannot even do 1.

Good thing about pull up station is that the height of the bar is adjustable.
So I adjust the bar lower.
Kept trying and practising until I can do pull up and chin up.
Chin up is easier as I can use biceps.
As I got better, I raise the height of the bar to make it harder.

Now can do a few reps.
Not very good but at least better than when I started.
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Does it takes a lot space? Share to me bro
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post Oct 24 2021, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(Amuro_Ray @ Oct 24 2021, 11:26 PM)
Does it takes a lot space? Share to me bro
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uses less space than a treadmill

https://shopee.com.my/ready-stock-%F0%9F%92...1AaApzREALw_wcB


Can buy from shopee / lazada and assemble yourself.
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10 reps thats it
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post Oct 24 2021, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(ukauka2020 @ Oct 24 2021, 10:25 PM)
like one week do pullup. the other do chin up lo. unless youre able to do all in the same day.
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QUOTE(Tegeken @ Oct 24 2021, 10:26 PM)
Chin up easier than pull up.
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There's only one term which is pull up with different grip variations.

Overhand grip. You refer as pull up
Underhand grip. You refer as chin up.

Another one is neutral grip. Use monkey bar where your hand grip is holding parallel bars facing each other.

I can do both on the same day.


QUOTE(xperiaVuser @ Oct 24 2021, 10:48 PM)
+1 must be really strong. I can only do 36 max on a good day 38
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I would like to worship you if you can do 36 in a set.

My daily of few sets is 36.

This post has been edited by New Klang: Oct 25 2021, 12:14 AM
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post Oct 25 2021, 12:05 AM

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All this to improve backside?
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post Oct 25 2021, 12:12 AM

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100 pull up a day.

Dead hang x 20 per set x 5 set in 1 hour.
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post Oct 25 2021, 12:27 AM

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QUOTE(ShadowR1 @ Oct 25 2021, 12:12 AM)
100 pull up a day.

Dead hang x 20 per set x 5 set in 1 hour.
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are you very fit??


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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Oct 25 2021, 12:27 AM)
are you very fit??
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Lean - yes.

Fit - I dont think so, everyone definition of "fit" is different.
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post Oct 25 2021, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(New Klang @ Oct 24 2021, 11:44 PM)
There's only one term which is pull up with different grip variations.

Overhand grip. You refer as pull up
Underhand grip. You refer as chin up.

Another one is neutral grip. Use monkey bar where your hand grip is holding parallel bars facing each other.

I can do both on the same day.
I would like to worship you if you can do 36 in a set.

My daily of few sets is 36.
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wah uncle strong.
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post Oct 25 2021, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(ukauka2020 @ Oct 25 2021, 11:44 AM)
wah uncle strong.
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My total daily is 30+, like 2x8 + 1x7+2x6

I am not strong
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post Nov 13 2021, 08:50 PM

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Try on tommorow morning
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QUOTE(un.deux.trois @ Oct 11 2021, 12:42 AM)
I can’t even do one rep lol
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Why so weak?



 

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