I stand for what's right. Sorry, I don't have the same thoughts as you to lie and scam people.

TS open tered about let's talk salary so that he can survey other people salary and lowball them and talk kok like some big boss here. Looks like this TS is a newly into his business

Don't worry TS. I think they see your company" enterprise" they won't even step into your company door also

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=5170335&hl=

ohh

let the diggin begin

-grabs popcorn-

I don't think there is anything bad by asking if there is a way to check what someone's past salary is. Why is everyone so offended with a company wanting documents to prove what the candidates stated during the interview? If I ask you how well you did in University and you told me you were a top student in Harvard and when I ask to see your cert, why shouldn't I be able to ask someone if it's true? What is wrong with that?

My company is hiring 2 people and the salary slip they showed shows a very high pay. Now, I know from another mutual friend in the previous company that these 2 guys are working from that their salary is probably 35% less. I actually called up KWSP / EPF to find out based on their EPF number and SOCSO number however they refused to let my HR team get the previous information about this. How can I make a report to get KWSP / EPF to give me historical information on their previous salary?

I was thinking of asking my friend who works in an MNC to try submit their documents saying that he wants to hire them and that he wants to do a background check. Since he works in a well established MNC, I was wondering if KWSP / EPF will disclose this information. Thank you.

TS open tered about let's talk salary so that he can survey other people salary and lowball them and talk kok like some big boss here. Looks like this TS is a newly into his business

Don't worry TS. I think they see your company" enterprise" they won't even step into your company door also

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=5170335&hl=

Bodoh la.

If the payslip is real, you are an asshole.

And if the payslip is doctored, you are still an asshole.

TS open tered about let's talk salary so that he can survey other people salary and lowball them and talk kok like some big boss here. Looks like this TS is a newly into his business

Don't worry TS. I think they see your company" enterprise" they won't even step into your company door also

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=5170335&hl=

You're lucky that you're in msia where you can be sloppy in acquiring and handling private data.....still you better check with a lawyer on this and hope that the candidates do not know the law. Acquiring private data without their consent and not through a legal compliant process is a criminal offense in many countries and could get you in trouble.

If you are are hiring manager, you should demonstrate some maturity here instead of playing stupid games like these. The objective at hand is if you want to hire the candidates based on your impression of the interview. If you want to hire, then it's a question of affordability, either you can give them a package that they are satisfied or you can't and you walk away and hire someone cheaper. What's the point of doing all these monkey business? In as much as you do all these nonsense, those 2 candidates can choose to walk away if they have options. It's supply and demand. They can jack up their rates and if the rates are too high for anyone in the market to afford them, they will eventually settle for less. You don't need to snoop around trough dubious questionable means.

It is also obvious that you have no idea how the big leagues play. MNCs have policies and more often than not are drafted in accordance to privacy laws of their respective countries of origin. To think that you could somehow get your friend to put his or her job on the line to commit such fraud is just laughable. Background checks of MNCs are outsourced to backcheck companies because if you mess this up, you can get really expensive lawsuits in the US, Canada, UK etc, that's why they get the professional companies to do it. To authorise a backcheck, the candidate file needs to be in the end of the hiring stage in the recruitment tool and it will cost the company for such a check.

If your friend is as stupid as you, then he'll inappropriately misrepresent his company with the intent to commit fraud by reaching out to EPF to acquire private information of some strangers. This is call social engineering and identity theft.......nice business you have got there.

Lol TS. Salary is PnC. Candidates can choose to reveal the truth or not. But for sure no MNC is stupid to risk their company with the govt due to PDPA. This Act covers personal data of an employee.

As for your choice to hire them or not, if you can't pay or decided to lowball, then don't hire. Mai be cheapskate offer salary suddenly wanna go back against it. Shows your value and dignity as a hiring manager.

Luckily I don't work for cheapskate companies like yours. And that is why I don't work for Chinaman companies. Capalang company. Stingy, cheapskate, and with sampah mentality. I've been in audit line for years before going to MNC. Seen many of these capalang companies during my audit. Some even tried to woo me from my audit firm with a low salary, saying they are paying above market rate. Sampah. Today I'm earning so big, I should congrats my younger self for refusing to join these capalang companies. There's a reason companies like Vitrox can go so big in barely 15 yrs against a company like yours, who even need to beg a friend from MNC for help. Hahaha jokers.