Why you picked me then? Did I offended you?

Its literally in your reply

Exactly. This is what I don't get bro. Look at the idiots we have around. They think it's fine.

then just offer them what u think they shud earn. see if they accept. don't have todo any other unnecessary things tbh

Yes, my assumption is 99.99% based of truth. Can I ask you something? You talk so much and how come you agree to faking pay slips? You don't get paid enough that you have to do this also? You seem to be very supportive about people faking their pay which says a lot about you. AHHAHAHHA!!!

cant afford just move on jer lo. u complain bout the process being hard to dismiss them after hiring and takes time bla bla.. thats your job no?

you're not wrong in inquiry their past salary but you're doing it the wrong way. and you should not use the 30% logic. yes it is common practice but what if their starting salary is low from the beginning due to recession and shit? so they gonna be loser for the rest of their lives cause starting low? pay them for they worth. go through the probation. if not up to par, feel free to dismiss them. and sir, that is your damn job.

99.9% sure but still considering to hire them. So you're either:

1. Cheapskate
2. Incompetent
3. Desperate
4. All of the above

I don't know why you are acting defensively when i was just replying to your previous comment??

You mentioned that most of the commenters are advocating for the act of falsifying pay slips to fool hiring companies when most of the posters here have not mentioned or advocate for such actions?

Ask the two to sign a statutory declaration on their submitted payslip. Simple

If you have it. Your choice, if an important position (trade secrecy, branding, intigrity), write in to seek verification of docs from the HR

Pdpa is one thing you dont want to get backfired. Do it right

This post has been edited by jojolicia: Oct 5 2021, 03:08 PM

Here's from the other side of the fence.

When hiring high salary positions, past records are indeed important? Why?

As many has noted, if a BDM is asking for 10k whereas his past record was only 4k, this is a huge red flag. When you walk in that door we are both strangers and it is a business decision to "invest" 30k (assuming 3 months probation) just to find out whether this guy is suitable or not. 30k just for preliminaries - mind you, and that guy might need time to on-board then only start to contribute which further pushes up the cost of this new hire. Many SMEs simply can’t afford to careless spend this budget.

Easiest is just to make submission of epf statement (less privacy issues) as part of new hire process. If s/he reject this, just evaluate who is more desperate. If you are, then eat that pill and hire (gamble). Otherwise, the candidate looks for a job elsewhere.

I never agreed.

Dont conflate a few issues here

One is the alleged faking of pay slips. I dont believe it was 100% conclusive based on what you said. Mutual friend managed to find out exactly how much they earn? 99.99%...sure i believe you. You assumed means you assumed. Hence why i didnt comment

Second is hiring and remunerating based solely on past pay. Thats a flawed method which i've highlighted here why

Third is breaking the law based on an assumption . Nuff said

Besides, you kantoi liao lar dupe with your past posts. 6 ppl used the account..thats the second dumbest shit i heard after another dupe that got kantoi.

cant you read?

i said I don't even bother to do background check.

i am confidence with My offer. Take if or leave it.


You are the one insecure with your offer.


FYI, I am offering below market avg salary. And I am convincing enough to get them join me.



You, in the other hand, need to do so many thing to counter their salary request?

I think TS is just taking all the posters for a ride.

Countless FACTS that has been steadily changing across the thread pages.

TS position in the matter:
TS is an employer
TS is a headhunter
TS works in HR

Payslip discrepancy :
Candidate is lying by falsifying payslip
He assumes candidate is lying about their payslip

His 3rd party connection:
TS mentions he has connection that can confirm the candidates payslip,
When called out, TS change the tune to he ASSUMES their payslip is etc etc
TS mentions that he wants to get a 3rd party from MNC to disguise as employer to obtain 3rd party P&C information about his prospective candidates.

This post has been edited by bluetomato: Oct 5 2021, 03:13 PM

First of all you have no proof except hearsay that they faked their payslips.

Secondly, I understand you need to work within your budget but I don’t get the point of you pulling such unethical stunts to find out the past salary of these 2 people you want to hire. If their asking salary is above your budget. Then stop being a lazy ass and find other suitable candidates that is within your budget. From all that I’ve read here you want to hire these 2 guys because they are the 2 best candidates you got but you not willing to pay them their expected salary and you’re too damn lazy to find other suitable candidates so now you are trying all kind of stunts to lowball them. Please have some integrity and stop being an asshole.

Thirdly, all these stunts that you are trying to pull is a clear breach of PDPA. You better stop before you get into some deep shit. Don’t just because you wanna lowball people it cause you more serious trouble if you and your company gets reported for this.

Lastly, if you want to do a background check then go ahead and do it. What you are doing is not a background check. Pay some qualified background check company to do the background checks legally. They have access to systems and would be able to conduct a thorough background check but I guess since you try to lowball their salary I doubt you’d be willing to spend on a background check provider.


Bro he is trying to be sneaky and stingy that’s all there is to it. The whole intent is simply to lowball that’s why he pulling all these stunts instead of doing a proper background check. I doubt he willing to spend for the background check also.

This! See TS got balls to answer this or not

Dp

This post has been edited by jojolicia: Oct 5 2021, 02:56 PM

Well said. Many people here who aren't as smart think that someone who earns RM 4k should be accepted when he fakes his salary of RM 10k. This is what puzzles me.

Come Guang Zhou HQ la, I will hire you. If your salary is now RM 10k I will give you 3x more. You just need to fake your slips. I don't think that would be an issue for you though. lol

Lol if you can't afford them, why not hire the affordable ones?

TS also not from around here

TS also Paki

TS also graduated with 2 degrees in 2011 but in 2010 still halfway thru degree

TS account had 6 ppl using before

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=5202440

Its all here hahahhah