if Civic goes up to 150k, CRV will be probably 170-180k lo....
all models will have price increase coming, HM will not be able to sustain the steel price increase and chip shortage.

I can tell you from a business standpoint, if I am HM I won't do that. This is a consumer centric business, and discretionary.

While I understand cost may have gone up 20%, raising prices across the board 10% may equal to 20% less business. Its not as straightforward as you imagine, especially for consumer discretionary goods.

The business that we work in, for those selling to consumer we fix the price, look for cheaper alternative (engineering) and for those we can, like to business or industrial, we raise.

in business no one likes price increase, but if RM price keep increasing, you do not have a choice as you are unable to absorb the cost any further.
It is not only effecting H, T and others including our local P will be effected and all will have no choice but to pass on the increase to consumers.

still remember few year back, camry was only selling at 150k, today it is 190+k, accord was also about 140k, now 190k too
C segment Mazda 3 selling price already 160k.

it is unavoidable because almost all cost have increased, it will probably be hyper inflation this round.

if cannot effort C segment then need to downgrade to B segment or lower lo.....

Agree but Iā€™m not convinced we are there yet. Either way, the day Honda announce price increase for CRV or civic RS 150k is the day I book Corolla cross or CRV at today prices, whichever comes first.

dealer either have to cut spec to save costs, or offer full spec with high price. More so if it's CBU

in the end consumer lose


this is the reality with our car market thanks to our policy and lousy currency

Still got on https://www.honda.com.my/compare but using current 1.8 & 1.5 specs la

foresee many future owners will be swapping to this bodykit, especially the front

The estimated price (increased RM10k from FC):
2022 Civic E- RM120,000
2022 Civic V- RM135,000
2022 Civic RS- RM145,000

i heard about the same range as well, i doubt we will see 1.5T E less than current 1.5TC price

I think E starting from 120k is still perhaps palatable. Anywhere near 130k as a starting point is telling everyone to take a hard look at Corolla (CBU), Corolla cross, Subaru, or Mazda 3, CRV, cx-5 for the RS.

I would've easily chose the Corolla over Civic if its not because of the shit interior

Mazda 3 everything is nice but I somehow can't stomach the fact its the most expensive but still using torsion beam at the rear when both Civic and Corolla have independent setup and double wishbones

lol, this Zenyu Loh steal credit from my post. At least this guy should credit me or at least mentioned my post/reply of my source.
How I know? There's lyn "watermark" at the bottom right of the pictures and all 3 pictures so ngam, lines up to the crop i did from the original source.

so, suppose E spec with 1.5T, manual seats, 7in display with no android auto, 16in, and FABRIC seats, no auto wiper, likely weak sauce speaker system

vs 1.8G electric seat, 9in display, 17in alloy, leather seats, auto wiper, not so weak sauce speakers and "shitty" interior
both same price, which one will you buy? Hypothetically, Rm130k upper estimate for the E spec.

Or would you still feel justified to spend 10k more and uptrim the FE Civic to get everything comparable to the Altis, while keeping the interior that you like? (Which for the purpose of this hypothetical question means 140k for V spec).

on the subject of torsion beam vs multi link or even A-Arm or fully independent suspension - I don't really care as long as it works. What i mean by works of course is it sits people comfortable, handles reasonably and won't roll too much.

I mean, you have wira with rear multilink suspensions and they are not exactly known for much.
Neither will I be subjecting my family sedan to the 3.5G corners at 100km/h.

I'm inclined to spend more just for the Civic

But if UMW release the Corolla Hybrid that might change my decision. Not a fan of SUVs so Corolla Cross is out of the question

My only gripe with the Corolla is the head unit and also the centre console design/layout. And its quite a big one since you spend most of your time in the car. Drive and ride wise I prefer it over the current FC Civic, not sure how much improvement will the new Civic bring. And oh yeah.... that lackluster 1.8 engine, that's why I'm also waiting for the hybrid

This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Nov 23 2021, 09:50 PM

Given everything else is the same (spring firmness, tuning etc), torsion beam will still be less comfortable than an independent or double wishbone setup when u go over rough roads



This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Nov 23 2021, 09:46 PM

to me the 1.5t is quite a far bit more powerful than the 1.8NA corolla. Its like comparing a horse and a donkey. But sad to say I've driven prius and the atkinson cycle 1.8 with electric assist is also just as sleepy as 1.8NA. I have no hope for it.

Either way I know what I need - a safe, C segment (size), some form of carplay and reliability. After that, as low a price as possible.

I think anything else goes to the price vs feature column.

On paper is already obvious the honda 1.5t is more powerful than the toyota 1.8 na. Numbers are higher and the torque comes in much earlier at lower RPM

I haven't test driven the Corolla Cross hybrid yet but that should give a clear picture on that power train and Corolla sedan is supposed to be slightly lighter. Correct me if I'm wrong but this 1.8 hybrid setup is supposedly from a new generation unlike the previous one in Prius.

Another wishful thinking is UMW pairing the 2.0 Dynamic Force engine with the Corolla

This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Nov 23 2021, 10:31 PM

Stealing information without properly accrediting is unfortunate. I still remember when Civic FC launched, and I was the TS for Civic X thread, a website & FB stole the information I gathered about what to check & known issues about the 1st batches of Civic FC. I still keep the info in the first post, just to name and shame forever.

Heard from SA that the tentative launch date is sometime in February 2022. Grain of salt as always.