Official LYN nVIDIA 8 series thread V3
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 Sep 9 2007, 01:52 PM
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1,955 posts Joined: Jan 2006 From: Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerych  
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They will obviously not be 8800GTS fast.
Remember nVidia + ATI trying to milk so much out of the DX10 midrange market? 8700 will probably have 64 stream processors instead of 96/32 of 8800/8600, speeds might be a bit higher, but performance will not touch 8800. The superoverclocked ones might overtake the stock 8800, but as you know, there's overclocked 8800s too. |
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Sep 9 2007, 05:07 PM
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80 posts Joined: Jul 2007
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Sep 9 2007, 09:31 AM) Errr.... 7800GTX is more than enough for current games. 7800 GTX's performance is awesome, but DX10 games (that I have thus far)... If you read reviews on Bioshock and DX10, the only difference between DX10 and DX9 in that game is the soft edges. Other than that, there are no other noticeable differences. My advice is to wait for newer DX10 games that take advantage of DX10 features e.g. crysis....  News is saying that they will launch the G92 first, to fill the gap between the 8600 and 8800 cards. As such, they are supposed to be slower than the 8800 series GC....  Company of Heroes BioShock Flight Sim X DX10 patch I just don't understand... why these guys release DX10 GPUs when there are so little games to take advantage of... I read http://www.gamespot.com/features/6177688/p-5.html and found that THE ONLY noticable difference between DX9 and DX10 in BioShock are that the water effects are slightly different... DX9 first picture, DX10 second picture       |
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Sep 9 2007, 05:14 PM
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DX9 and DX10 in Bioshock is barely noticable, heck I can even bet most people won't be bother with the details when they are playing the game. DX10 still have quite a long way to go because developers know how to fully utilize it, its still not as mature as DX9. I wonder if that will totally change once the 9 series comes out.
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Sep 9 2007, 05:43 PM
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1,058 posts Joined: Apr 2006 From: Penang , Malaysia 
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but who will buy new DX9 GC atm?
all will rush for DX10 card for sure. it's not about the diffrent, just following the trend |
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Sep 9 2007, 05:47 PM
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14,576 posts Joined: May 2006 From: Sarawak 
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QUOTE(Games For Windows @ Sep 9 2007, 05:07 PM) 7800 GTX's performance is awesome, but DX10 games (that I have thus far)... Yeah, that's the reason why I think you can still wait. I'm sure crysis would show better utilization of DX10 features.... Company of Heroes BioShock Flight Sim X DX10 patch I just don't understand... why these guys release DX10 GPUs when there are so little games to take advantage of... I read http://www.gamespot.com/features/6177688/p-5.html and found that THE ONLY noticable difference between DX9 and DX10 in BioShock are that the water effects are slightly different... |
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Sep 9 2007, 06:13 PM
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1,955 posts Joined: Jan 2006 From: Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerych
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DX10 is MUCH more obvious than pictures can tell.
Bioshock looks much better in DX10- the lighting's a lot subtler, textures are a little sharper (may be placebo) and the water is much more gorgeous than this. |
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Sep 9 2007, 08:36 PM
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For now only COJ DX10 that obviously different from its DX9 version. But with no thorough optimization it might be very graphics power hungry.
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Sep 10 2007, 01:53 PM
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1,468 posts Joined: Sep 2006 From: Taman Melati, KL
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as i can see , dx9 and dx10 on bioshock not much diff .. , some dx10 lack of AA .
better expect on crysis ..  |
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Sep 10 2007, 01:58 PM
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10,530 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Petaling Jaya & Mid Valley
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actually by those pictures alone id rather go DX10 for bioshock than DX9
the difference though subtle...is absolutely gorgeous. most obvious difference is the water. but if u see the last 2 pix, the shadow on the floor is much sharper in DX10 than DX9 now i just need to find some friggin time to install vista. This post has been edited by mADmAN: Sep 10 2007, 01:59 PM |
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Sep 10 2007, 02:22 PM
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actually the water effect for DX9 bioshock is awful. there other DX9 games that have better water effect than this. i think it's just a reason for Irrational to make it look bad on DX9 but fix it a bit on DX10.
the one different i can see is better smoke or transparencies. no more "layer" or smoke. but hardly volumetric to me.... |
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Sep 10 2007, 05:08 PM
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guys...between X2600 XT and 8600GT....
from what i've read..8600GT is better right? i mean..most of them said with AA..8600GT outperforms the 2600XT? Anyway i think I'll stick to 8600GT in my shopping list.  |
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Sep 10 2007, 05:29 PM
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QUOTE(metalfreak @ Sep 10 2007, 05:08 PM) guys...between X2600 XT and 8600GT.... he u are going for HD video , suggest go for HD2k series . low cpu usage compare to 86 from what i've read..8600GT is better right? i mean..most of them said with AA..8600GT outperforms the 2600XT? Anyway i think I'll stick to 8600GT in my shopping list. but overall performance (game), the 86 outperform than HD26 |
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Sep 10 2007, 06:26 PM
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1,058 posts Joined: Apr 2006 From: Penang , Malaysia
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QUOTE(likito @ Sep 10 2007, 06:29 PM) he u are going for HD video , suggest go for HD2k series . low cpu usage compare to 86 8 series will be better. go for 86GTsbut overall performance (game), the 86 outperform than HD26 |
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Sep 10 2007, 07:07 PM
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3,466 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: PJ, Malaysia
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which one u prefer?
high scores in benchmark or high fps in games? personal opinion : ati perform better in benchmark while in-game nvidia outperform ati (especially when AA turned on) |
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Sep 10 2007, 10:51 PM
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2,550 posts Joined: Dec 2006
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Can Bioshock run smothly with this rig?
amd athlon 64 x2 4000+ corsair ddr2 667 1gb asus geforce 8500gt(silent) thanks! |
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Sep 10 2007, 10:53 PM
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13,340 posts Joined: Feb 2005 From: back from vacation XD
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obviously yes la
 just need 2 add one more gig ram 4 more raw juice n power  |
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Sep 11 2007, 12:39 AM
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347 posts Joined: Apr 2007 From: ipoh mali
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QUOTE(iZuDeeN @ Sep 10 2007, 07:07 PM) which one u prefer? i go for better fps.......high scores in benchmark or high fps in games? personal opinion : ati perform better in benchmark while in-game nvidia outperform ati (especially when AA turned on) btw in benchmark, i thought Nvidia outperform Ati.......Ati outperform Nvidia in fps........ |
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Sep 11 2007, 12:42 AM
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New beta drivers for bioshock n CRYSIS..~~!!163.67..
This post has been edited by nonamekid: Sep 11 2007, 12:42 AM |
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Sep 11 2007, 02:31 AM
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QUOTE(ff8ong @ Sep 10 2007, 10:51 PM) Can Bioshock run smothly with this rig? Just overclocks ur cpu and the 85gtamd athlon 64 x2 4000+ corsair ddr2 667 1gb asus geforce 8500gt(silent) thanks! |
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Sep 11 2007, 12:42 PM
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1,468 posts Joined: Sep 2006 From: Taman Melati, KL
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new price for 8700gts
512mb $249 256mb $199 |
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