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 Use of Ivermectin against Covid-19, LETTER TO NOOR HISHAM

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amirsubhi
post May 27 2021, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(Sichiri @ May 27 2021, 08:26 PM)
if we do that then our health system is gonna collapse.
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I wonder why FDA doesn't recommend it too https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-upda...revent-covid-19
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post May 27 2021, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(amirsubhi @ May 27 2021, 08:30 PM)
I wonder why FDA doesn't recommend it too https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-upda...revent-covid-19
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at this point, no one knows why.

Covid 19 already on decline in USA thanks for mass vaccine rollout. Eventually they might no even need treatment anymore.
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post May 27 2021, 08:45 PM

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QUOTE(Sichiri @ May 27 2021, 08:41 PM)
at this point, no one knows why.

Covid 19 already on decline in USA thanks for mass vaccine rollout. Eventually they might no even need treatment anymore.
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Some people are still going to get infected and have severe covid. Why don't need treatment?
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post May 27 2021, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 27 2021, 08:45 PM)
Some people are still going to get infected and have severe covid. Why don't need treatment?
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They're using Remdesivir instead.
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post May 27 2021, 08:52 PM

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QUOTE(Sichiri @ May 27 2021, 08:47 PM)
They're using Remdesivir instead.
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Super expensive.
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post May 27 2021, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(cranx @ May 21 2021, 11:05 AM)
are we killing covid-19 patients unknowingly, using a wrong treatment SOP all along?


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If this is true, also cannot blame anyone

So what are you trying to say

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QUOTE(Sichiri @ May 27 2021, 08:26 PM)
if we do that then our health system is gonna collapse.
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mati syahid, apa susah. raya pun brani lawat sana sini.
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post May 27 2021, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(Sichiri @ May 27 2021, 08:25 PM)
Thanks, I also agree that Ivermectin is a proven drug for treatment of Covid. We'll wait and see how it progresses. More and more evidence of its effectiveness is showing.

Its still not going to put an end to the pandemic though.
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Well, I don’t believe ivermectin is a wonder drug either without more data. But that was never the issue, the issue was dismissing a letter in such a glib and ignorant manner without even bothering to examine the evidence first.

QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 27 2021, 08:21 PM)
Weh tag la the fella who asked for the links muok
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No point i doubt he Even bothered to click on any of the link.

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post May 27 2021, 10:29 PM

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So many songlap on all levels of governance worldwide, corruption to milk as much money they can from the pandemic, for just a million reasons all in the name of this pandemic .. it's going to be like stopping a train on it's track with your bare hands.
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ May 27 2021, 10:18 PM)
Well, I don’t believe ivermectin is a wonder drug either without more data. But that was never the issue, the issue was dismissing a letter in such a glib and ignorant manner without even bothering to examine the evidence first.
No point i doubt he Even bothered to click  on any of the link.
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Not 11 only. DG really cherry picking when he only picked 2 studies to say ivermectin not effective.

QUOTE(cranx @ May 27 2021, 11:29 AM)
As reported on the FlCCC website, there have been a total of 56 trials involving 469 scientists and 18,447 patients. Of these, 28 were randomized control trials (RCT), the type of trial considered highly authoritative in the medical community.
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post May 28 2021, 12:49 PM

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https://www.sinarharian.com.my/article/1409...esakit-Covid-19


SHAH ALAM - Pengarah Perubatan, Universiti MAHSA, Profesor Dr Mustafa Ali Mohd menyarankan supaya kerajaan menggunakan ubat Ivermectin untuk merawat pesakit Covid-19.


Menurutnya, ubat tersebut terbukti berkesan apabila sekumpulan penyelidik di Australia telah mengkaji dan berjaya memulihkan ramai pesakit Covid-19.

“Saya ingin beri pandangan dan cadangan kerana keadaan kini telah kritikal dan kita masih terkial-kial mencari jawapan. Sedangkan, kita ada alternatif dengan menggunakan ubat Ivermectin.

“Ia bukan vaksin Covid-19. Ini adalah ubat cacing. Pada April tahun lalu, lebih daripada 50 ujian klinikal dijalankan di serata dunia yang menunjukkan keberkesanannya.

“Kajian ini dilakukan oleh mereka yang berpengalaman dan pakar dalam bidang ini,”
katanya pada Khamis.

Beliau berkata demikian semasa menjadi panel dalam program Wacana Sinar edisi ke-260 yang bertajuk, Covid-19: Malaysia di Ambang Kritikal yang disiarkan di platform Sinar Harian.

Turut menjadi panel adalah Ahli Majlis Tertinggi Bersatu, Datuk Suhaili Abdul Rahman, Pengarah Pusat Penyelidikan dan Pendidikan Penyakit Berjangkit Tropika (TIDREC), Profesor Dr Sazaly Abu Bakar dan Profesor Ekonomi dan Polisi Kesihatan, Universiti Kuwait, Profesor Datuk Dr Syed Mohamed Aljunid Syed Junid manakala Ismail Adnan sebagai moderator.

Mengulas lanjut, Dr Mustafa berkata, ubat tersebut juga telah digunakan di beberapa negara di dunia dan boleh digunakan secara selamat.

Setakat ini, sebanyak 3.7 bilion dos suntikan telah diberikan kepada pengguna dan tiada sebarang kesan sampingan serius.

“Ubat ini antara alternatif ubat-ubatan yang selamat di dunia. Ia telah digunakan lebih daripada 30 tahun.

“Kita boleh bergantung kepada apa yang ada. Namun, ia tidak memberi apa-apa harapan yang cerah pada masa depan. Kita perlu alternatif lain seperti Ivermectin. Harganya hanya AS$ 0.02 (RM0.83 sen) sahaja untuk setiap satu dos.

“Kenapa kita keberatan hendak menggunakannya? Jika terlebih dos atau sebagainya pun ia tidak memberi implikasi besar kepada pengguna,”
ujarnya.

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post May 28 2021, 01:08 PM

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https://jamaica-gleaner.com/article/letters...ring-ivermectin

Letter of the Day | Bring on Ivermectin


THE EDITOR, Madam:

Once again prominent medical practitioners in Jamaica have called for the use of Ivermectin in the COVID-19 battle. In an open letter to Health and Wellness Minister Dr Christopher Tufton published in The Gleaner last Thursday, titled ‘Doctors back Ivermectin COVID-19 fight’, the highly regarded professionals stated, “It is widely agreed that there is enough evidence to support the use of Ivermectin in the treatment of COVID-19 at the discretion of doctors and with the agreement of their patients. We need not await WHO approval of the use of Ivermectin for treatment of COVID-19. The WHO, unfortunately, has been slow, and sometimes incorrect, in its assessment and advice on various aspects of the pandemic and specifically so in relation to its current stance on Ivermectin.”

The views of our respected doctors are not new or peculiar to them. The University of Liverpool’s Andrew Hill and others carried out a meta-analytical breakdown of 18 studies that found that Ivermectin was associated with reduced inflammation and a faster elimination of SAR-Cov-2, the virus that causes COVID-19. In six of these trials, the risk of death was reduced by 75 per cent in a subset of patients with moderate to severe COVID-19.

The question which needs to be answered is, why is there such a reluctance to officially sanction the use of Ivermectin despite scientific studies and personal reports of people who have benefited from this drug? I think we got an important clue recently. According to Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla and Dr Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, a booster COVID-19 vaccine may be needed for people who have already been vaccinated as soon as eight to 12 months after their second shot.

BAD TIMING

I found the timing (May 2021) of this information extremely troubling. Didn’t these esteemed gentlemen know earlier that a booster shot would be required? Why wait to share this information when millions of persons have already received a first or second shot? It is definitely not wrong to question whether or not profits are driving the constant pushback against the use of Ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine.

The pharmaceutical companies are making billions in profit through the manufacture of these vaccines while there would be little or no profit to be made from long-existing medications such as Ivermectin. Pfizer said it expects global sales of its coronavirus vaccine to reach $26 billion in 2021, a milestone that would make it the biggest selling pharmaceutical product in the world. Both Moderna and Pfizer have said they expect their vaccines will remain in demand for at least several years as coronavirus variants proliferate around the world and people require booster shots to maintain immunity after their initial doses.

Can the lack of interest in Ivermectin be traced to financial considerations rather than medical efficacy? I commend our local doctors who have gone against the grain to tell of the importance of Ivermectin in the fight against COVID-19; however, sadly at this time, it seems to be “all about the money, baby!”

MARSHA THOMAS

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post May 28 2021, 01:19 PM

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https://manilastandard.net/news/national/35...es-by-half.html

Defensor says ivermectin use cut QC COVID cases by half

A party-list lawmaker on Thursday said the use of COVID-19 experimental drug ivermectin in Barangay Matandang Balara in Quezon City has reduced virus infection cases there by more than half in less than a month.

Anakalusugan Rep. Mike Defensor, who with Sagip Party-list Rep. Rolande Marcoleta distributed ivermectin to residents of the area last April 30, said the Barangay Health Emergency Response Team reported 138 cases the day before, or on April 29.

He said by May 22, or less than a month after the distribution, infection numbers were down to 59, or by 57.2 percent, he said.

Two days later, on May 24, cases further decreased to just 39, he said.

“The significant decline is a tremendous achievement in the fight against COVID-19 and further bolsters our appeal to undertake mass distribution of ivermectin to our people,” Defensor stressed.

The decrease in Matandang Balara is “far larger” than the 34.2-percent reduction in District 3, to which the barangay belongs, he added.

Defensor and Marcoleta have urged the Department of Health and the Department of Science and Technology to expedite clinical trials on ivermectin, which President Rodrigo Duterte has ordered the two agencies to conduct.

“We could save many lives with the use of this wonder drug,” Defensor said.

Ivermectin is still not registered in the country for prevention or treatment of COVID-19. The Food and Drug Administration earlier gave six hospitals compassionate special permits to administer the anti-parasitic drug to coronavirus patients.

Earlier this month, the FDA announced it approved a company’s application to register ivermectin as an anti-nematode (roundworm) drug.


Still, Defensor and Marcoleta lamented that while they and other concerned citizens, including volunteer doctors and other health professionals, are helping communities fight COVID-19, other public officials in Quezon City are reportedly violating health protocols in distributing aid.

They cited last Tuesday’s distribution of food packs in Matandang Balara and last month’s P1,000 “ayuda” to qualified city residents, which they said might have been virus infection super-spreader events.

They blamed the Quezon City government for failing to enforce such protocols.

“The crisis the pandemic has brought us really requires the highest form of altruism, especially among public servants, to address the dire needs of the citizenry. But one must ensure that one’s good intentions do not unwittingly cause more harm,” they said.

“Gathering several thousand people to give them food assistance is a laudable intention, but the potential to spread the virus is also high. One should think of better ways to give the assistance in a much safer manner, without compromising the established health protocols,” they said.

They urged the Department of Interior and Local Government to crack down harder on violators of health measures, including local government units and public officers.

“We are afraid that without sending clear signals to those responsible, we will continue to see the rise in cases of COVID-19 and the policy of lockdowns will be a never ending cycle,” they said.
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some of u talking like its a silver bullet

plz la
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https://www.heraldgoa.in/Goa/Ivermectin-red...gh-Court/175454

Ivermectin reduces mortality rate, State tells High Court

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PANJIM: The State government has said that the use of Ivermectin for COVID-19 treatment reduces mortality rate, however, it is not advisable for all without doctor’s consultation. In its reply submitted to the High Court of Bombay at Goa, the State has said that the government has decided to give all suspected and symptomatic cases the medicine. Likewise, home isolation patients are also being provided this medicine in the home isolation kits.

“After deliberation (by the State Expert Committee for COVID-19), it was recommended to use the medicine once daily for five days to the population over 18 years of age. However, pregnant/lactating women as well as those persons with allergy and those having liver/kidney disease are advised to consult a doctor before taking the medicine,” the reply states, in response to a petition filed by South Goa Advocates Association on COVID-19 management in the State. The Bench will hear the matter on Friday, when other issues related to concerns raised by the petitioners and the Court will also be heard.

The High Court had asked the government to reply on the use of Ivermectin despite WHO and regulatory agencies advising against it.

The government also states that some reports have found that analysis by WHO on this medicine is flawed and that the mortality rate is actually much lower if the medicine is used for early treatment as well as prophylaxis.


On the issue of oxygen supply in hospitals, the government reply denies its shortage or any instances of interrupted supply of oxygen. “Daily requirement of oxygen for Goa is about 55 MT… On request of State government, the Ministry of Health and Family Welfare, Government of India letter dated May 13, 2021 has allotted 20 MT additional LMO from LINDE Belloxy Bellary with effect from May 15, 2021,” it said.

The LMO through Bellary has now been changed to Jindal Steel Works, Dolvi. Additionally, 15 MT per day oxygen is generated by four units and the State government is in the process of installing PSA plants which have been sanctioned by the Central government at various sites in the State. These plants are mainly for the purpose of serving as a backup and would not be the primary source of oxygen to the hospitals.

The Union government’s reply to the High Court, on the vaccination drive, states that it is supplying vaccines to the States and Union Territories for priority population of health care workers, frontline workers and those above 45 years of age. As on May 26, 7.47 lakh doses have been provided to Goa of which 4.97 lakh doses have been consumed and 2.50 lakh doses are available with the State currently.

A total of 45,700 doses are likely to be available in Goa from June 1 to June 15. For June, a total of 36,580 doses are likely to be made available for direct procurement to cover the 18-44 years population of Goa, the Centre said.
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Ivermectin for treatment of COVID-19

With reference to the open letter to Health DG by our ten esteemed colleagues, MAAFIM and its members supported by many other doctors in Malaysia would like to establish that Ivermectin has been in use in many countries with good results in the treatment of COVID-19, especially in prophylaxis.

Ivermectin is a medication that is included in the Malaysian drug formulary as an antihelminthic and yet there is resistance to allow the drug for use for its intended purpose or for emergency use for COVID-19 disease.There is an abundance of research to show its safety, as the drug has been in use for decades. And now many countries or states are adopting Ivermectin despite the advice of world bodies simply because people's lives matter more.

MAAFIM has perused the published data, and additionally kept in close communication with many doctors around the world who have used Ivermectin in the management of COVID-19. The informal feedback has been overwhelmingly positive.Hence, there is sufficient evidence to add Ivermectin to the arsenal against COVID-19 disease.

If there is a drug that can be used to avoid the COVID-19 disease prophylactically or improve the outcome in treatment with minimal side-effects, and it is cheap to obtain and distribute, then it behoves the appropriate governments including the Malaysian government to expeditiously implement a drug that can thwart the negative outcome of the current pandemic.Ongoing clinical studies can be done for pharmaceutical approval but in the meantime Ivermectin can be released as under "Emergency Use Authorization", since there is sufficient data coming from other nations and it could be lifesaving or reduce the morbidity of COVID-19 disease for the Malaysian rakyat.

(EXCO, Malaysian Association for the Advancement of Functional and Interdisciplinary Medicine (MAAFIM), signed by 136 doctors from MAAFIM and other concerned doctors.)

Dr A.Rani a/p A.Arokiasamy
Dr Abdul Aziz bin Abdul Hamid Ahmad
Dr Abdul Majid Abdullah
Dr Abdul Rasid mohamed Ali
Dr Abdul Wahab Khalid Osman
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https://www.sinchew.com.my/content/content_2482977.html

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WACANA SINAR 260, 27 MEI 2021

Berikut merupakan petikan Wacana Sinar Siri 259 bertajuk `Covid-19: Malaysia di ambang kritikal` bersama Profesor dan Pengarah Perubatan, Universiti MAHSA, Prof Dr Mustafa Ali Mohd.
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I dont see why we cant start trial use ourselves given that it it cheap and proved to be safe for decades. Not to say I am 100% convinced, I am still a fence sitter on this drug.

No need to follow buta-buta CDC, I really lost confidence in them when they say mask was ineffective last year despite mask have been used to fight pandemic for decades and then pour cold water on delaying the 2nd dose despite it conforms to our knowledge of vaccine's mechanism (easy for US to say so when they horde all vaccines).

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QUOTE(Einjahr @ May 28 2021, 01:19 PM)
some of u talking like its a silver bullet

plz la
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No one was talking like it was a silver bullet. Strawman.
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post May 31 2021, 08:03 PM

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Dulu Hydroxychloroquine.
Now veterinary drug.
People likes to jump on the bandwagon.

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