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 Use of Ivermectin against Covid-19, LETTER TO NOOR HISHAM

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post May 27 2021, 05:18 PM

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Nah..

Siapa mau try ivermectin boleh contact dr ini..

https://twitter.com/dochelmy/status/1397820730797006848?s=19
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post May 27 2021, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ May 27 2021, 02:02 PM)
whoa....dismisses the open letter from bunch of scientist and medical professionals and published in malaysiakini portal (among others) as equivalent to forwarded message rubbish from boomer.

Mirror...I give you see.

PS : if you have the scientific training, you can make up your mind whether the arguments in the open letter make sense or not.
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Published as an opinion letter is considered factual? Malaysiakini never published erroneous news before? Get your head out of the sand.

BTW, it wasn't an open letter from a bunch of scientists or medical professionals. All fake news starts with placing in "reputable" names, sprinkled here and there to make the news a bit more factual. If you did any research at all, you will see it's always the same names being misused.

It's a boomer issue that boomers can't weed out scams.

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post May 27 2021, 06:44 PM

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QUOTE(muok @ May 27 2021, 06:29 PM)
Published as an opinion letter is considered factual? Malaysiakini never published erroneous news before? Get your head out of the sand.

BTW, it wasn't an open letter from a bunch of scientists or medical professionals. All fake news starts with placing in "reputable" names, sprinkled here and there to make the news a bit more factual. If you did any research at all, you will see it's always the same names being misused.

It's a boomer issue that boomers can't weed out scams.
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Rather than throwing mud around and calling ppl slurs, why not rebutt the papers and issues brought up in that letter?

The letter discussed 11 peer reviewed journals. Are you saying the majority of those journals are sprinkled with fake scientist names?

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post May 27 2021, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ May 27 2021, 06:44 PM)
Rather than throwing mud around and calling ppl slurs, why not rebutt the papers and issues brought up in that letter?

The letter discussed  11 peer reviewed journals. Are you saying the majority of those journals are sprinkled  with fake scientist names?
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Boomer is a term. Not a slur. If you feel slighted, you are definitely a boomer then. Peer reviewed journals? I'm laughing so hard. I tell you what, keep on believing everything you read from whatsapp and FB.

If you had decent critical thinking, you would know where to stand on this issue.
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post May 27 2021, 07:16 PM

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QUOTE(muok @ May 27 2021, 07:13 PM)
Boomer is a term. Not a slur. If you feel slighted, you are definitely a boomer then. Peer reviewed journals? I'm laughing so hard. I tell you what, keep on believing everything you read from whatsapp and FB.

If you had decent critical thinking, you would know where to stand on this issue.
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More ad hominems. Alright. You dismiss peer reviewed journals despite some of these journals been the basis of WHO and KKM DG recommendations and guidance. So we should rely instead on your self appraised critical thinking skills.

Again mirror, look at it.
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ May 27 2021, 06:44 PM)
Rather than throwing mud around and calling ppl slurs, why not rebutt the papers and issues brought up in that letter?

The letter discussed  11 peer reviewed journals. Are you saying the majority of those journals are sprinkled  with fake scientist names?
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11 is not a lot lol

seriously anyone can cook up journals really
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post May 27 2021, 07:17 PM

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QUOTE(+3kk! @ May 27 2021, 07:16 PM)
11 is not a lot lol

seriously anyone can cook up journals really
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Well dg relied on two out of those 11. Until those journals mentioned appear on retractionwatch I’ll choose to give them the benefit of the doubt that they aren’t fake.

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post May 27 2021, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(+3kk! @ May 27 2021, 07:16 PM)
11 is not a lot lol

seriously anyone can cook up journals really
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he did say peer reviewed though

not all journals gets pass peer review process.

but where are they?
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post May 27 2021, 07:30 PM

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who wan ivermec? i can injek

same way how i injek rabbits
one needle share all

lol
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post May 27 2021, 07:30 PM

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QUOTE(Sichiri @ May 27 2021, 07:27 PM)
he did say peer reviewed though

not all journals gets pass peer review process.

but where are they?
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Later I’ll go google all the papers on google scholar and provide link. Now busy

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post May 27 2021, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(cranx @ May 27 2021, 11:48 AM)
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Rubbish, Ivermectin is not going to bring the end to the pandemic. It helps in treating with mixed results. thats all.

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post May 27 2021, 07:53 PM

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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ May 27 2021, 07:30 PM)
Later I’ll go google all the papers on google scholar and provide link. Now busy
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Not busy to reply but busy to provide proof. Typical.
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post May 27 2021, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(+3kk! @ May 27 2021, 07:16 PM)
11 is not a lot lol

seriously anyone can cook up journals really
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The thing is, there are a lot of people out there, especially boomers; that aren't able to differentiate between fact and made up fact.
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ May 27 2021, 07:17 PM)
Well dg relied on two out of those 11. Until those journals mentioned appear on retractionwatch I’ll choose to give them the benefit of the doubt that they aren’t fake.
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its not fake, just 11 is reality not a lot

it meets basic criteria of msias minimum of 5, but honestly 11 is not something to be proud of.

QUOTE(Sichiri @ May 27 2021, 07:27 PM)
he did say peer reviewed though

not all journals gets pass peer review process.

but where are they?
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yea, its peer reviewed, just saying that 11 is not that great a figure really.
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post May 27 2021, 08:08 PM

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Babalola 2021
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/202...1.05.21249131v1

chaccour 2021
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/artic...589537020304648

elgazarr 2020
https://assets.researchsquare.com/files/rs-...46cecd4b5a5.pdf

niaee 2021
https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-148845/v1

ratjer 2020
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3631261

khan 2020
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7837160/

portman bararcco 2020
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7578741/

shoumann 2021
https://web.a.ebscohost.com/abstract?direct...6AN%3d148789244

alam 2020
https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/8a57/4d143...e7c513b1f20.pdf

hellwig maia 2021
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/artic...924857920304684

tess lawrie 2021
https://osf.io/dzs2v

note, some are preprints

the two papers refered to by DG was chacour et al 2021 and lopez medina et al 2021

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2777389

hey TS cranx, you wanna link to this post for others to examine the primary sources/papers mentioned in the article?

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post May 27 2021, 08:18 PM

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oh my god what a shitshow of a thread
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ May 27 2021, 08:08 PM)
Weh tag la the fella who asked for the links muok
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post May 27 2021, 08:22 PM

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use local data instead of from outside. at least MOH can consider whistling.gif
later got non-halal ingredient bising pulak.
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post May 27 2021, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ May 27 2021, 08:08 PM)
Thanks, I also agree that Ivermectin is a proven drug for treatment of Covid. We'll wait and see how it progresses. More and more evidence of its effectiveness is showing.

Its still not going to put an end to the pandemic though.


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post May 27 2021, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(ticke @ May 27 2021, 08:22 PM)
use local data instead of from outside. at least MOH can consider whistling.gif
later got non-halal ingredient bising pulak.
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if we do that then our health system is gonna collapse.

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