Wow, tq TS for posting articles and link. Something useful in kopitiam.
Use of Ivermectin against Covid-19, LETTER TO NOOR HISHAM
Use of Ivermectin against Covid-19, LETTER TO NOOR HISHAM
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Wow, tq TS for posting articles and link. Something useful in kopitiam.
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May 26 2021, 01:27 PM
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 26 2021, 01:25 PM) Adoi...rookie mistake. Need to paste the contents of the link to have any chance of ppl reading it. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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May 27 2021, 02:02 PM
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QUOTE(muok @ May 27 2021, 11:47 AM) You are like those people that believe everything sent via forwarded messages/emails. I'm guessing you are a boomer. Anyone can cut and paste a list of names and try to make the news credible. whoa....dismisses the open letter from bunch of scientist and medical professionals and published in malaysiakini portal (among others) as equivalent to forwarded message rubbish from boomer. Mirror...I give you see. PS : if you have the scientific training, you can make up your mind whether the arguments in the open letter make sense or not. 6942nole, dogbert_chew, and 1 other liked this post
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May 27 2021, 06:44 PM
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QUOTE(muok @ May 27 2021, 06:29 PM) Published as an opinion letter is considered factual? Malaysiakini never published erroneous news before? Get your head out of the sand. Rather than throwing mud around and calling ppl slurs, why not rebutt the papers and issues brought up in that letter?BTW, it wasn't an open letter from a bunch of scientists or medical professionals. All fake news starts with placing in "reputable" names, sprinkled here and there to make the news a bit more factual. If you did any research at all, you will see it's always the same names being misused. It's a boomer issue that boomers can't weed out scams. The letter discussed 11 peer reviewed journals. Are you saying the majority of those journals are sprinkled with fake scientist names? This post has been edited by diffyhelman2: May 27 2021, 06:49 PM |
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May 27 2021, 07:16 PM
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QUOTE(muok @ May 27 2021, 07:13 PM) Boomer is a term. Not a slur. If you feel slighted, you are definitely a boomer then. Peer reviewed journals? I'm laughing so hard. I tell you what, keep on believing everything you read from whatsapp and FB. More ad hominems. Alright. You dismiss peer reviewed journals despite some of these journals been the basis of WHO and KKM DG recommendations and guidance. So we should rely instead on your self appraised critical thinking skills. If you had decent critical thinking, you would know where to stand on this issue. Again mirror, look at it. |
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May 27 2021, 07:17 PM
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QUOTE(+3kk! @ May 27 2021, 07:16 PM) Well dg relied on two out of those 11. Until those journals mentioned appear on retractionwatch I’ll choose to give them the benefit of the doubt that they aren’t fake.This post has been edited by diffyhelman2: May 27 2021, 07:22 PM |
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May 27 2021, 07:30 PM
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May 27 2021, 10:18 PM
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QUOTE(Sichiri @ May 27 2021, 08:25 PM) Thanks, I also agree that Ivermectin is a proven drug for treatment of Covid. We'll wait and see how it progresses. More and more evidence of its effectiveness is showing. Well, I don’t believe ivermectin is a wonder drug either without more data. But that was never the issue, the issue was dismissing a letter in such a glib and ignorant manner without even bothering to examine the evidence first.Its still not going to put an end to the pandemic though. QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 27 2021, 08:21 PM) No point i doubt he Even bothered to click on any of the link.This post has been edited by diffyhelman2: May 27 2021, 10:19 PM |
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May 31 2021, 08:01 PM
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Jun 1 2021, 12:53 PM
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QUOTE(oe_kintaro @ Jun 1 2021, 08:38 AM) *inject highly specific chemical made by big pharma directly into bloodstream with relatively mild side effects* = tak mau directly into the bloodstream? sure gua?*ingest broad spectrum chemical (also made by big pharma) with all sorts of potential dosage issue and side effects and liver toxicity* = bring it on /s all the vaccines are intramuscular injections. if kena a vein that means injected wrongly liao. |
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Jun 1 2021, 04:38 PM
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Jun 1 2021, 04:40 PM
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Jun 1 2021, 04:43 PM
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Jun 2 2021, 11:26 AM
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QUOTE(cranx @ Jun 2 2021, 10:16 AM) Im afraid 99% of ppl are going to skip this long read and tldr, until a figure of authority they trust says they might consider it. |
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Jun 2 2021, 06:17 PM
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QUOTE(cranx @ Jun 2 2021, 06:07 PM) I read information on that earlier, seems not viable at this point compared to Ivermectin which is cheap, safe and readily available. was wondering, even if they wanted to, do drs here have ready supply of ivermectin for human therapeutic use?Look at the above post, doctors are giving up on those with less chances of survival citing the lacking of ventilators / ICU beds. Instead of giving up on them, why not try Ivermectin as a potential treatment? Shall we continue to passively wait for the conclusion of KKM clinical trial with no target end date while citizens continue to die everyday? Is our sole focus on lock down and vaccination, forgetting about TREATMENT of the sickness? |
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Jun 5 2021, 02:31 PM
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Jun 5 2021, 11:06 PM
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QUOTE(cranx @ Jun 5 2021, 10:55 PM) Ministry of Health Malaysia starts Ivermectin trial for high risk COVID-19 patients (I-TECH Study) uh, wait....I thought he first mentioned about trials in January....may 25 baru approved and start???? Medical Research and Ethics Committee banyak lambat approve!!!By DG of Health on June 5, 2021 Effective pharmacologic treatments for COVID-19 remains a challenge. The Randomised Evaluation of COVID-19 Therapy (RECOVERY) trial showed dexamethasone, a steroid, improved mortality outcomes for COVID-19 patients in severe stage of disease when oxygen supplementation or mechanical ventilation is required. But for the management of mild and moderate cases, there is lack of treatment, either to prevent disease progression or cut viral transmission. The COVID-19 clinical characterisation study by MOH specialists and researchers found that for cases admitted to hospitals, 95% had mild illness but about 3.5% subsequently progressed to severe disease. They were mostly of older age (≥51 years) or had underlying co-morbidities such as chronic kidney disease and chronic pulmonary disease that increased their risk for severe disease. However, for high-risk COVID-19 patients, many repurposed antiviral therapies were found ineffective. The World Health Organization (WHO) COVID-19 Solidarity Trial for COVID-19 Treatments (SOLIDARITY) which included Malaysia, found insufficient evidence for the use of remdesivir, hydroxychloroquine, interferon, lopinavir in terms of mortality outcomes. Currently, the Malaysian Consensus Management Guidelines for COVID-19 maintains Favipiravir, as the only antiviral therapy for the management of COVID-19 cases. Even this recommendation may change as more evidence becomes available. Ivermectin is an FDA-approved anti-parasitic drug widely used for treating several neglected tropical diseases, including onchocerciasis, strongyloidiasis and helminthiases. The “off-label” use of Ivermectin gained global attention due to some promising results by case studies and clinical trials. Yet, the evidence is inconclusive to recommend routine use of Ivermectin for COVID-19. The FDA has not approved Ivermectin for use in treating or preventing Covid-19 in humans, and the WHO only recommends the use of Ivermectin in the setting of clinical trials, in which patients are monitored closely by experienced clinicians and researchers for safety and efficacy. There is an on-going need for adequately powered, well-designed, and well-conducted clinical trials for evidence-based guidance on the role of Ivermectin in the treatment of COVID-19. Under the circumstances, the Ministry of Health Malaysia and the Institute for Clinical Research (ICR) have initiated a multicentre open-label randomized controlled trial. The Ivermectin Treatment Efficacy in Covid-19 High Risk Patients (I-TECH Study) headed by Infectious Disease (ID) Physician at Hospital Raja Permaisuri Bainun, Ipoh and a team of specialists and Clinical Research Centres (CRC) at 12 MOH hospitals. The trial was approved by Medical Research and Ethics Committee (MREC), MOH on 25 May 2021. The study compares Ivermectin treatment (specific dose with specific duration) with the standard of care alone. The study will enrol 500 subjects from high risk groups aged 50 years and above admitted to MOH hospitals with mild/moderate COVID-19 symptoms (Stage 2-3). The study aims to determine the efficacy of Ivermectin in preventing the progression of COVID-19 to severe disease (Stage 4-5) and in terms of mortality outcomes. ICR has setup a Data Monitoring Board (DMB) consisting of independent ID physicians, clinical trial pharmacists and methodological experts to safeguard the trial patients on the safety and efficacy of the investigation product set by the National Pharmaceutical Regulatory Agency (NPRA). The First-Patient-In (FPI) was on 31 May 2021, and to date 8 patients have been enrolled. The study is expected to be completed by September 2021. Thank you. Tan Sri Dato’ Seri Dr. Noor Hisham bin Abdullah Director General Ministry of Health Malaysia 5 June 2021 https://kpkesihatan.com/2021/06/05/ministry...s-i-tech-study/ This post has been edited by diffyhelman2: Jun 5 2021, 11:07 PM |
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QUOTE(Oltromen Ripot @ Jun 5 2021, 11:31 PM) tonight, somebody - or a group of somebodies - is actively bringing inactive /kopitiam threads back to the top That is irrelevant and not applicable to this thread. TS posted about a letter by DG that was published today. I say that is highly relevant and topical news.This post has been edited by diffyhelman2: Jun 5 2021, 11:39 PM |
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Jun 14 2021, 02:40 AM
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QUOTE(cranx @ Jun 3 2021, 03:09 PM) I listened to the live stream and thought it will be taken down by Youtube shortly after. update. sadly taken down. Surprisingly it is still there. new link here https://www.bitchute.com/video/qHjNQIynVb5O/ cranx liked this post
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