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 Use of Ivermectin against Covid-19, LETTER TO NOOR HISHAM

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JohnL77
post May 26 2021, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(kilazilla @ May 26 2021, 02:20 PM)
But if the manufacturer of ivermectin also didnt endorse the use of it.

https://www.merck.com/news/merck-statement-...id-19-pandemic/

If really effective, why dont the manufacturer advocate it?
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When they had the patent they said it is very safe. After the patent expired, they started saying the safety record is insufficient.

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post May 26 2021, 03:24 PM

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Many South American countries have used it with success.

Our country on the other hand.....

If you must know the truth.....

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post May 26 2021, 03:29 PM

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The side of the box says (in French) do not use on pregnant women, except if there is no alternative treatment. Doesn't seem to be a medicine for horses.
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post May 26 2021, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(SouthernAllStar @ May 26 2021, 01:45 PM)
And he is ok with 1 year old experimental vaccines?

weird or maybe impaired risk assessment there lol
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the difference is there is a very clear benefit of the vaccine and subsequent results.

While Ivermectin has mixed results in different test.

This was the same situation with hydroxychloroquine last year.

I think the reason DG said what he said is because Malaysian Healthcare carefully follows WHO guidelines and WHO hasn't approve Ivermectin for Covid treatment yet.
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post May 26 2021, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(AllnGap @ May 21 2021, 11:11 AM)
As long as it works.

Like Viagra if not mistaken was meant for heart
Manatau side effect is Didi keras so now everyone consume it for the side effect
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post May 26 2021, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 26 2021, 03:19 PM)
When they had the patent they said it is very safe. After the patent expired, they started saying the safety record is insufficient.
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a check on who site shows merck patent expired in 1996. meaning after 1996 safety record insufficient?
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post May 26 2021, 07:06 PM

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QUOTE(kilazilla @ May 26 2021, 07:01 PM)
a check on who site shows merck patent expired in 1996.  meaning after 1996 safety record insufficient?
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Strange isn't it? They sold it for so many years but now they say safety record insufficient?
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post May 26 2021, 07:06 PM

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If there is a cure... there will be no need for the vax.
if the said cure is cheap and the vax is expensive...
which 1 u think will get the approvals.
follow the money
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post May 26 2021, 07:08 PM

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ivermectin is used against fleas in animals lol
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post May 26 2021, 07:15 PM

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QUOTE(McDullDull @ May 26 2021, 07:06 PM)
If there is a cure... there will be no need for the vax.
if the said cure is cheap and the vax is expensive...
which 1 u think will get the approvals.
follow the money
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curious to know how cheap it is?

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The drugs ivermectin and doxycycline are commonly used in the developing world and have been found to be safe and effective in treating both parasitic and bacterial infections. The drugs are affordable (the full 5-day cost ranges from US$ 0.60 to US$ 1.80 for 5-day ivermectin) and readily available in Bangladesh, and thus are a highly attractive alternative for treating COVID-19 patients.


https://www.ijidonline.com/article/S1201-97...2506-6/fulltext
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post May 26 2021, 08:12 PM

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There are generics available... which makes it cheaper...
Too bad its only registered for animal use here in Msia...
But a search in Lazara and shopee did come up with some sellers selling the "human use" ones... im sure its illegal. rolleyes.gif
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‘Literally criminal’: Suppressing data on ivermectin cost ‘half a million lives’, doctor charges

In a recent Zoom call, Dr. Pierre Kory of the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance outlined numerous details showing the World Health Organization (WHO) knowingly suppressed data on the effectiveness of ivermectin against the virus in order to benefit the vaccine interests of Big Pharma.

“It’s criminal,” Kory said. “It’s literally criminal.” The drug “could have saved half a million lives this year if it had been approved.”

The WHO, Kory contends, is simply taking part in the tactics of a time-worn “Disinformation Playbook.” The term was coined by the Union of Concerned Scientists 50 years ago to describe the strategies corporations have developed over decades to “attack science when it goes against their financial interests.”

It consists of five parts:


1)The Fake – Conduct counterfeit science and try to pass it off as legitimate research.
2)The Blitz – Harass scientists who speak out with results reviews inconvenient for industry.
3)The Diversion – Manufacture uncertainty about science where little or none exists.
4)The Screen – Buy credibility through alliances with academia or professional societies.
5)The Fix – Manipulate government officials or processes to influence policy inappropriately.


In the full Zoom call, since removed by YouTube but available on Bitchute, Kory describes how the five tactics have been deployed against the scientific findings on ivermectin. One example is the corruption of leading medical journals, whose editors refuse to allow ivermectin studies to advance to peer review. The most egregious institutional participant, however, is the WHO.

Kory is the lead author of a scientific review of the studies on ivermectin worldwide, which was published in the May-June edition of The American Journal of Therapeutics.

As reported on the FlCCC website, there have been a total of 56 trials involving 469 scientists and 18,447 patients. Of these, 28 were randomized control trials (RCT), the type of trial considered highly authoritative in the medical community.

Together these have shown an 85 percent improvement as a preventative against the disease when taken before exposure. There has been a 78 percent patient improvement when administered early and a 46 percent improvement when delivered late. A 74 percent improvement in mortality was found and a 66 percent improvement across multiple areas in the 28 randomized control trials.

Within only 10 days of publication the paper on ivermectin was rated number 13 most-read among the more than 200,000 other scientific publications that appeared during that time, Kory reports.

Out of the 17.7 million papers that have been tracked by the rating source since it began, the ivermectin study is already ranked 246.

Kory believes the response to the paper is a good sign, and says he sees “a see change happening.”

Kory notes his team is hardly alone. “Dr. [Tess] Lawrie is one of the world’s experts in making guidelines and doing systematic reviews. Just her group alone and their independent effort, the BIRD (British Ivermectin Recommendation Development) consortium, they arrived at the conclusion that it should be the standard of care. Our article also arrived at that same conclusion. We are not alone. Prof. [Satoshi] Omura, the Nobel prize winner, his group from Japan, published their paper concluding the same. Another independent group from Spain and Italy” did so.

Most importantly, he said, “the key about all of these groups… is that we are independent expert panels. None of us are conflicted. None of us have any other interests than the oath that we took as physicians which is to the care of our patients.”

Part of the problem is that the WHO’s corporate donors not only provide funds, they determine all aspects of research and even provide the research teams.

“Look at where the money is coming from. Now the money has strings attached,” Kory said. “People give the WHO money, but they say ‘we want you to do this or study that. We want you to use our consultants and our experts, and our scientists.’ Many of them come from pharma. Pharma has pretty much completely infilatrated this organization.”

When “you look critically at the medicine, especially in a pandemic, you can’t help but arrive at an objective conclusion that it is the standard of care,” Kory said. “And it really is doing phenomenal impacts around the world.”

In Mexico and India for example, “the death rates and hospitalizations just absolutely plummeted” where ivermectin was used.


The real problem with the drug, Kory believes, is that in addition to being effective, safe, and easily available, it is very cheap. Ivermectin costs only a few dollars per dose. This pits the drug against financial interests of over 100 billions of dollars to be made from vaccines.


“I can’t imagine in the history of pharmaceuticals, a competing interest as deep and as vast as is arrayed against little ivermectin,” Kory said. “It is truly almost incalculable the interest against it.”

Once trusted healthcare agencies such as the WHO, have become the chief advocates of the interests of their Big Pharma, vaccine-driven donors. As a result, Kory said, the WHO and others, are actively suppressing the vast evidence for ivermectin in order to keep it out of public view.

The evidence for this claim is startling. Looking at the WHO’s panel report on ivermectin, he said, “The stuff that they are doing is not subtle. It is so clear that whoever was in charge of that panel had a nonscientific objective.”

“Number one, there was no protocol for excluding data. So they were basically free throw out any trial that they found inconvenient to their purpose,”
Kory noted. “And guess what? They did that. They threw out a lot of the trials that their own Unitaid team had uncovered and amassed over the last few months.”

The most egregious thing, Kory found, is a sentence in the WHO report their researchers did not even bother to defend, “it just simply says, ‘We did not look at randomized controlled trials and the prevention of COVID-19.’ No reason why, no reason not why. We just didn’t do it.”

One of the most important indicators of effectiveness in a drug is dose response data, Kory explains. “They deliberately avoided mention” of dose response data. “They completely omitted really important data, because if that’s there, that’s a huge scientific pillar showing efficacy.”

They also did not include epidemiological studies, such as that by Juan Chamie’s research that has been going on for a year “showing every place that does widespread distribution and adoption you see case counts and death plummet,” and which was presented to the WHO.

“So when I read that, I know this data. My head was in my hands and I was just like these people or criminals. They’re literally are criminals,” Kory said.

When the report examines whether ivermectin is safe or not, Kory remarked, “it’s just absolutely comical.”

Speaking of a drug used for over 40 years with billions of doses delivered and a better safety track record than aspirin or Tylenol, he says, the WHO found three studies that contain a suggestion that there might be adverse effects. The panel then determined, Kory said, “‘it doesn’t work, because we threw out all the data showing that it works. But you know what, we are seeing that it could be harmful. I mean, [it is] absolutely ludicrous what they’re doing.”

By contrast, the WHO allowed remdesivir for COVID-19, which costs between $2340 and $3120, on the basis of a single study performed with 800 patients. That study found remdesivir does not reduce mortality, and reduces length of hospitalization among survivors by an average of two days.

In 2018, the WHO recommended ivermectin for the treatment of scabies on the basis of 10 randomized control trials with only 852 patients. It did the same for ivermectin as a treatment for strongyloides, a parasitic infection, on the basis of five randomized control trials and 591 patients.

However, 28 randomized control trials consisting of almost 3,000 patients have not been enough for the WHO to approve this life-saving therapy for COVID-19.

“The WHO essentially committed a criminal action,” Kory said. “This is clearly not science going on here.”

https://www.worldtribune.com/literally-crim...doctor-charges/
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QUOTE(cranx @ May 21 2021, 11:05 AM)
are we killing covid-19 patients unknowingly, using a wrong treatment SOP all along?

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post May 27 2021, 11:38 AM

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My dog takes ivermectin for heartworms treatment
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 26 2021, 07:06 PM)
Strange isn't it? They sold it for so many years but now they say safety record insufficient?
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They can't tell you the truth, because 95% of human cannot accept and/or handle the truth....

And they don't want to tell you the truth.....

How many people out there know of Ivermectin let alone heard of it?

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QUOTE(cranx @ May 26 2021, 02:20 PM)
Please do not put it out of context, this was a petition from professionals on the medical use of ivermectin to treat covid-19.
No one is advocating dosage meant for animals to be used on humans.

Captain (Rtd) Wong Ang Peng, research scientist
Prof Mustafa Ali Mohd, senior pharmacologist & toxicologist
Dr Saifuzzaman Yusoff, medical doctor
Dr Zawawi Abdullah, medical doctor
Dr Durairajoo Govindarajoo, medical doctor
Nadzim Johan, chairperson, Coalition on Integrity of Vaccines & Drugs Against Covid-19 (Civdac)
Brig Gen (Rtd) Mohd Arshad Raji, Persatuan Patriot Kebangsaan (Patriot)
Abd Kadir Warsi Mohamad, Persatuan Pengguna Islam Malaysia (PPIM)
Police Commissioner (Rtd) Shabudin Abdul Wahab, Covid Research Centre (AHM Group)
Tunku Azwil Tunku Abd Razak, Gabungan NGO Islam (GNI)
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You are like those people that believe everything sent via forwarded messages/emails. I'm guessing you are a boomer. Anyone can cut and paste a list of names and try to make the news credible.
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https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion/let...6a290ee105.html

Ivermectin crushes Delhi cases


Just three weeks after adding Ivermectin, Delhi now leads India out of the deadly second surge of the COVID pandemic. Cases that had peaked at 28,395 on April 20 plummeted nearly 80% to just 6,430 on May 15. Deaths peaked May 4, and now they are also down 25%.

On May 10, the Indian State of Goa adopted an even more ambitious policy of preemptive Ivermectin for all adults in the state. The Chief Minister of Goa is Dr. Pramod Sawant, a progressive 49-year-old physician persuaded by science. In particular, he read Dr. Pierre Kory's and Dr. Andrew Hill's robust meta-analyses. As a direct result, Goa has seen a drop in cases from 3,124 the day after the announcement to 1,314 five days later.

Meanwhile, three other Indian states have followed Goa's lead in adding Ivermectin: Uttarkhand, Karnataka, and Uttar Pradesh. And, as expected, they have seen a drop in new daily cases as well, with Uttar Pradesh down nearly 75% from a peak of 37,944 just four days after they began following the April 20 AIIMS guidance to just 10,505 on May 16.

The tragic story in all this is that the Indian state of Tamil Nadu installed a new leader on May 7, 2021. He suddenly reversed their state's decision to adopt Ivermectin. Readers of my book all know about Peruvian President Sagasti's fateful decision to outlaw Ivermectin. Before taking power, the COVID deaths had dropped 14 fold to almost nothing with Ivermectin use. However after Sagasti was elected, Ivermectin was stopped, and deaths roared back at 13 fold.

Peru paid the price in skyrocketing cases and 78,000 preventable deaths. Tamil Nadu's Chief Minister, MK Stalin, also chose to forgo Ivermectin. Instead, he ordered tens of thousands of doses of Remdesivir, a drug that sells for 3,000 dollars per dose. So now Tamil Nadu's cases are rocketing as well.

In contrast to Goa's young physician Chief Minister who had read the latest science on Ivermectin's dramatic effect on reducing COVID death, MK Stalin is a 68-year-old non-physician socialist and atheist who is towing the party line by forbidding Ivermectin.

Stalin now requests allocations for some 20,000 daily doses of Remdesivir for the Tamil Nadu citizens despite the science that shows no reduction in COVID death with this drug. Remdesivir is an anti-viral agent given late in the disease, only after hospitalization when the Cytokine storm has set in and when anti-virals have lost their effectiveness.

At that later stage, steroids, anticoagulants, and oxygen are crucially important. Also, Ivermectin has shown a remarkable ability to reduce inflammation at that stage, with some being liberated from the ventilator with just one dose.

Tamil Nadu cases have continued to rise from April 20 to May 15. During the same time, Delhi's cases eased 78% while Tamil Nadu's cases tripled.

Twenty thousand doses of Remdesivir cost 60 million dollars, while 20,000 doses of Ivermectin go for a few hundred. Where is a developing country getting the 60 million dollars a day to purchase the Remdesivir? Why is their leader throwing away a cheap drug, Ivermectin, that has saved lives in other countries?

Why would Stalin choose money over lives?

As a humanitarian and a board-certified practicing physician, I know we can influence other Indian states to adopt Ivermectin. With the help of groups like C19, the FLCCC, and the EBMC led by scientists of the caliber of Dr. Peter McCullough, Dr. George Fareed, Dr. Pierre Kory, and Dr. Tess Lawrie, let us all join together to get the word out. Ivermectin must be instituted globally to end not just the carnage in India but for the rest of the world.

This is life-saving information that everyone must learn now about how this Nobel Prize-winning drug, Ivermectin, can immediately bring an end to the pandemic. Tamil Nadu citizens have a right to know the truth. It is everyone’s human right to access it, and it is a drug for all of humanity. So help us fight the corruption and censorship. Please share the book, Ivermectin for the World.

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QUOTE(muok @ May 27 2021, 11:47 AM)
You are like those people that believe everything sent via forwarded messages/emails. I'm guessing you are a boomer. Anyone can cut and paste a list of names and try to make the news credible.
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whoa....dismisses the open letter from bunch of scientist and medical professionals and published in malaysiakini portal (among others) as equivalent to forwarded message rubbish from boomer.

Mirror...I give you see.

PS : if you have the scientific training, you can make up your mind whether the arguments in the open letter make sense or not.


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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ May 27 2021, 02:02 PM)
whoa....dismisses the open letter from bunch of scientist and medical professionals and published in malaysiakini portal (among others) as equivalent to forwarded message rubbish from boomer.

Mirror...I give you see.

PS : if you have the scientific training, you can make up your mind whether the arguments in the open letter make sense or not.
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When u buka tered about 2nd gen mRNA vaccines, tag slimey. Last time I asked how the experts make sure the mRNA doesn't stay in the body? He said it gets destroyed very quickly.

Now they making mRNA vaccines that, "turn the body’s own cells into factories that continually churn out spike proteins on their own." Lol.
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Shopee got sell ah?

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