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 Use of Ivermectin against Covid-19, LETTER TO NOOR HISHAM

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post Jun 1 2021, 01:53 PM

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How to get Ivermectin in Malaysia oh?
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QUOTE(oe_kintaro @ Jun 1 2021, 08:38 AM)
*inject highly specific chemical made by big pharma directly into bloodstream with relatively mild side effects* = tak mau
*ingest broad spectrum chemical (also made by big pharma) with all sorts of potential dosage issue and side effects and liver toxicity* = bring it on
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Big Pharma doesn't have the patent on ivermecitin anymore.
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post Jun 1 2021, 03:44 PM

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However, how to explain that India’s case fatality rate of 1.7% is much higher than Malaysia’s 0.5%? Malaysia does not use Ivermectin. This proves that Ivermectin is over hyped.

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QUOTE(aspartame @ Jun 1 2021, 03:44 PM)
However, how to explain that India’s case fatality rate of 1.7% is much higher than Malaysia’s 0.5%? Malaysia does not use Ivermectin. This proves that Ivermectin is over hyped.
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Most part of India is lacking far behind if you compare with our medical infrastructure.
Also we are testing vigorously on asymptomatic patients, while I believe testing are done on mild to severe symptomatic patients in India.

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post Jun 1 2021, 04:18 PM

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Whatever u do, pls dun let curry lembu know about this drug, or else....

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post Jun 1 2021, 04:23 PM

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2 Indian States Go Big On Drug Ivermectin Despite WHO Advice
The move by Goa and Uttarakhand, come despite the World Health Organization and others warning against such measures.

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At least two Indian states have said they plan to dose their populations with the anti-parasitic drug ivermectin to protect against severe COVID-19 infections as their hospitals are overrun with patients in critical condition.

The move by Goa and Uttarakhand, come despite the World Health Organization and others warning against such measures.

"The current evidence on the use of ivermectin to treat COVID-19 patients is inconclusive," WHO said in a statement in late March. "Until more data is available, WHO recommends that the drug only be used within clinical trials."

Merck, a manufacturer of the drug, has also said available data does not support using the drug as a COVID-19 treatment.

"We do not have enough data to support its use," said Anita Mathew, an infectious diseases expert in Mumbai.

Goa, a major tourist haven, said earlier this week it plans to give ivermectin to all those older than 18, while Uttarakhand announced plans on Wednesday to distribute the tablets to any person over the age of two, except for pregnant and lactating women.

"An expert medical panel has recommended this" Uttarakhand's Chief Secretary Om Prakash told Reuters. "We are waiting for supplies to come in. Once they do we will distribute this drug."

Uttarakhand in March and April played host to the Kumbh Mela, a weeks-long Hindu gathering that attracted millions of devotees from across the country. Images of the gathering showed scant evidence of any mask wearing or social distancing as throngs of people congregated for a holy dip in the river Ganges.

The state, ruled by Prime Minister Narendra Modi's Bharatiya Janata Party, has since early April seen its COVID-19 cases surge from under 300 a day to above 7,000 a day and the death toll has also risen sharply.

PM Modi and other political leaders in India have faced sharp criticism for failing to stop big religious and political gatherings in many states, despite evidence from mid-February onward that India's case count was rising.

Despite India's overwhelming surge in cases, PM Modi has shied away from imposing a nationwide lockdown fearing the economic fallout and has left it to state governments, which experts say have acted too late.

Uttarakhand currently has coronavirus-related social restrictions, including curbs on interstate travel.

Goa, which is also ruled by PM Modi's BJP, remains open to tourists and only imposed an extended 15-day lockdown this week, despite data showing more than one in three patients were testing positive for COVID-19 since mid-April. The state is reporting the highest positivity rates in the country.

Goa Health Minister Vishwajit Rane said an expert panel based in Europe had found the drug ivermectin reduced the time to recovery and risk of death, but regulators such as WHO and the U.S. Food and Drug Administration say there is little evidence of this.

The state-run Indian Council of Medical Research recommends doctors could use the drug for mild COVID-19 patients, but warns this is based on "low certainty of evidence".

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Mr Rane did not respond to a Reuters request for comment.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/2-indian-st...-advice-2440954


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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Jun 1 2021, 12:53 PM)
directly into the bloodstream? sure gua?

all the vaccines are intramuscular injections. if kena a vein that means injected wrongly liao.
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post Jun 1 2021, 04:32 PM

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TS ni baca sikit news je dah jadi super expert lulz
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post Jun 1 2021, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(tvcat @ Jun 1 2021, 04:32 PM)
TS ni baca sikit news je dah jadi super expert lulz
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So easy to throw mud from the back without sharing any info what so ever. Troll.
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Jun 1 2021, 04:38 PM)
So easy to throw mud from the back without sharing any info what so ever. Troll.
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TS share punya news dah ada info tu u tak tau baca ke?
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TS share punya news dah ada info tu u tak tau baca ke?
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You know English?
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Jun 1 2021, 04:40 PM)
You know English?
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aku belajar bahasa malaysia la
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QUOTE(tvcat @ Jun 1 2021, 04:42 PM)
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post Jun 2 2021, 10:16 AM

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https://www.thedesertreview.com/news/nation...22d2325a08.html

A 97% decline in Delhi cases with Ivermectin is decisive - period. It represents the last word in an epic struggle to save lives and preserve human rights. This graph symbolizes the victory of reason over corruption, good over evil, and right over wrong. It is as significant as David’s victory over Goliath. It is an absolute vindication of Ivermectin and early outpatient treatment. It is a clear refutation of the WHO, FDA, NIH, and CDC's policies of "wait at home until you turn blue" before you get treatment.

Dr. Pierre Kory told the world on December 8, 2020, that Ivermectin "obliterates" this virus. Obliterate means to decimate, demolish, or annihilate. It means to eliminate or destroy all trace, indication, or significance.

This graph shows that Ivermectin, used in Delhi beginning April 20, obliterated their COVID crisis. No one should be able to talk you out of this - not a salesman, a drug company, a television celebrity doc, and certainly not the top doctor for the WHO or the NIH who is paid to do that.

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Will you believe this 97% eradication graph, or will you believe the propaganda pitched by the Big Media, Big Pharma, the WHO, and the FDA, who share massive financial conflicts of interest – those who say there is insufficient evidence?

What evidence could be any clearer than a 97% reduction in five weeks? That number is better than the current vaccines and beyond the reach of most medicines.

The WHO cautioned India they were making a mistake by using Ivermectin. They told them it could be dangerous, that there was no evidence it worked. How many lies will you buy before you stand up for the truth?

The fatal mistake would have been to NOT use Ivermectin.


Mercifully they used it, and they saved Delhi. But tragically, Tamil Nadu did not, and their state was devastated. Their new cases rose from 10,986 to 36,184 – a tripling.

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No one can hide that. Their refusal to use Ivermectin harmed them. Not only did Tamil Nadu's cases rise to the highest in India, but their deaths skyrocketed from 48 on April 20 to 474 on May 27 – a rise of ten-fold.

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Meanwhile, Delhi's deaths IN THE SAME PERIOD fell from 277 to 117. So which advice would you have wanted your state to follow?

In America, Baylor’s Dr. Peter McCullough, Yale’s Dr. Harvey Risch, and Harvard’s Dr. George Fareed first advised early outpatient treatment in testimony to the US Senate on November 19, 2021. Dr. McCullough and his colleagues were the first in the world to publish an early outpatient treatment protocol for COVID-19.

https://www.amjmed.com/article/S0002-9343(2...0673-2/fulltext

That protocol has since been revised by Dr. George Fareed and his dynamic associate, Dr. Brian Tyson. They have now saved 6,000 COVID patients in California’s Imperial Valley.

https://www.thedesertreview.com/health/loca...e1151e98c3.html

Less than one month later, Dr. Pierre Kory sounded the alarm for a second time on December 8, 2020, to the US Senate. He advised the use of Ivermectin, yet no one listened. No Ivermectin guidelines were instituted. On December 8, the US suffered 2,821 COVID deaths. With Ivermectin, cases could have been quickly crushed. Fatalities would have dropped in short order, as the example of Delhi shows us.

But instead, the United States followed the WHO and FDA’s official advice and waited for the vaccines. They sat on their hands while people gasped. They watched and did nothing as millions turned blue and flooded the hospitals - no Ivermectin approval. So like Tamil Nadu, our US cases and deaths also skyrocketed.

By January 8, just four weeks later, US daily cases had risen from 219,000 to 300,000, and deaths were up from 2,821 to 3,895. Even more Americans were to die due to this failed health policy of ignoring Ivermectin and early outpatient treatment.

Delhi did it right. The United States and Tamil Nadu did it wrong. It cost half a million precious lives and horrific pain and suffering for the world. The pandemic was prolonged for no good reason.

Now we are in a different position. We as a people have absolute evidence of Ivermectin’s efficacy. In Delhi, we heard not one single story of Ivermectin being toxic or causing any difficulty. On the contrary, it is safe, and it saved tens of thousands from COVID.

But more immediately, what can we do now? What will you do as a concerned citizen to get the word out? What can you do to save your fellow human beings from repeating these costly errors? Start with sharing the book, Ivermectin for the World, with your church, your minister, and all your social contacts. Then, spread the word far and wide:

People can safely take Ivermectin to prevent and treat COVID-19.

The rest of the world must hear about Ivermectin as new areas experience similar surges. A new hybrid variant is brewing in Vietnam. Notify them! They need to know there is more than masks and social distancing. There is more than waiting for vaccines. Ivermectin is effective against ALL the variants. The vaccines ARE NOT.


But, unfortunately, the authorities will continue to censor this information; thus, the responsibility of getting the word out rests squarely upon the citizens of the planet, you and me.

https://www.amazon.com/Ivermectin-World-Jus...k/dp/B0943T564G

Lead a peaceful protest. Share this article with everyone you know, your social media, your email contacts, relatives, friends, and co-workers. You may think that none of this applies to you because you have already been vaccinated. That is unfortunately not true.

Listen to Dr. Peter McCullough on this subject. He is the Vice-Chair of Medicine at Baylor University Medical Center in Dallas, Texas. He is among the most published cardiologists in the world. He is arguably the most courageous physician to speak out.

https://vimeo.com/553518199

No one deserves COVID. No one deserves to die when we have effective treatment.

Do you continue to believe the pronouncements of those agencies that have failed you so many times before? Those agencies who have told the media to give you only filtered information, those agencies who have ignored the world's leading scientists.

Take a look at this graph. Delhi was in dire straits on April 20 with 28,395 new daily COVID-19 cases and rising.

We sounded the alarm. The All India Institute for Medical Science (AIIMS) and the Indian Council of Medical Research (ICMR) had the guts to listen. They listened to the 56 studies involving 18,447 patients showing up to a 91% reduction in death with Ivermectin. They listened to scientists like Dr. Pierre Kory and the FLCCC. They listened to world-class experts like Dr. Tess Lawrie of the BIRD group and Dr. Peter McCullough of the C19 group. They were smart.

The book Ivermectin for the World was released May 1, 2021, and called for the urgent adoption of Ivermectin by India on a humanitarian basis to save lives. "What we could not do for America, we can do for India!" was our mantra.

And we did! This is what happened to cases in the areas that chose Ivermectin:

Delhi : ¯ 97% [28,395 to 956]

Uttar Pradesh: ¯ 95% [37,944 to 2,014]

Goa: ¯ 85% [4195 to 645]

Karnataka: ¯ 60% [50,112 to 20,378]

Uttarakhand: ¯ 87% [9,642 to 1,226]

Observe what happened to those areas that DID NOT choose Ivermectin:

Tamil Nadu ­ 173% [10,986 to 30,016]

Odisha ­ 50% [4,761 to 7,148]

Assam ­ 240% [1,651 to 5,613]

Arunachal Pradesh ­ 656% [ 61 to 461]

Tripura ­ 828% [92 to 854]

On May 3, the FLCCC and the BIRD groups issued a press release and called for the immediate global use of Ivermectin for COVID-19. On May 7, Dr. Paul Marik, the second most published Intensive Care Specialist in the world and founding member of the FLCCC, did the same. He added that we could no longer trust “larger health authorities to make an honest examination of the medical and scientific evidence.”

https://eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2021-05...c-lpr050621.php

In India, the acid test was to compare the fates of those Indian areas that adopted the drug versus those that did not. This would be the ultimate natural experiment. Finally, the plain truth would be revealed to all the world. It was no longer the special interests, Big Pharma, Big Regulators, and Big Media, who had been censoring, swindling, and conniving. Now the fight would be fair because all the money in the world could not conceal the cases in Delhi. The world had a front-row seat to witness these results. And it bears repeating; the results are in.

Delhi’s cases are down 97% from 28,395 on April 20 to just 956 on May 29.

So the question now is this: Are you going to believe the obvious contained in these graphs? Or are you going to believe those corrupt agencies that do not have your best interests at heart, those who have lied to you many times before?

I suggest you believe the scientists from non-profit groups like FLCCC and BIRD who have nothing to gain except saving your life. They are the most trustworthy. You can support Dr. Tess Lawrie’s charitable work at:

https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-us-get-life...ved-for-covid19

You can support Dr. Pierre Kory’s charitable work on:

https://covid19criticalcare.com/

You can support Dr. George Fareed’s charitable work and his COVID-19 project by contributing to www.holtvillebaptist.com in the name of the COVID-19 Fareed Project. Dr. George Fareed is a voice of wisdom.

https://youtu.be/czJuCCBIoX4

Dr. Fareed is a former NIH scientist and Harvard Professor. He holds patents on three cancer drugs. He was named the 2015 California Rural Physician of the Year, and he won the Plessner Memorial Award given by the California Medical Association for his ethics and clinical excellence. So, you can trust and believe Dr. Fareed.

https://youtu.be/7pKBfRHFJAg

The choice is clear. Ivermectin is the safe, repurposed Nobel Prize-Winning drug that effectively reduces death up to 91% from COVID-19. It does not produce blood clots, heart attacks, or strokes. It does not cause violent immune reactions. And it reduced the COVID-19 cases in Delhi, India, by an astonishing 97% in five weeks. It costs pennies.

Tell the poor citizens of Tamil Nadu who are still in the dark and remain forbidden from using it. Tell the rest of the world. Show your doctor the studies. They are updated daily on www.ivmmeta.com. If your doctor refuses, find another doctor.

Listen to scientists and physicians who are driven by their Hippocratic Oaths to do what is right, not the doctors who are paid vast sums of money by lucrative interests to tow the party line.

So the next time you hear a highly paid doctor advising you that Ivermectin does not work, or you read another article disputing this, please believe your eyes and this graph.

Use your common sense. Some truths are self-evident, and Ivermectin's pronounced effect against this virus is one of them. Another self-evident truth, straight from the Declaration of Independence, is the human right to life - which includes the right to select medical treatment - free from governmental interference.

We do not require scientists to interpret these fundamental truths. We do not need a philosopher to know that censorship of life-saving information is wrong. We do not require any more "studies" to understand that all the world needs Ivermectin - immediately.

“What we did for India, we must now do for the rest of the world!”

https://youtu.be/UAx6oRcZK6Q
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https://kpkesihatan.com/2021/05/16/moh-resp...ovid-19-deaths/

way before this thread is made
thread created on 21/5....he already responded on 16/5

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 2 2021, 11:14 AM)
https://kpkesihatan.com/2021/05/16/moh-resp...ovid-19-deaths/

way before this thread is made
thread created on 21/5....he already responded on 16/5
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ABOVE perfectly demonstrated the problem of headline reader.
READ again the first post of this thread. It is a RESPONSE to DG Dr Hisham.

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We respectfully disagree with Health director-general Dr Noor Hisham Abdullah when he stated on May 16, 2021, that there is no conclusive evidence for the use of Ivermectin against Covid-19.

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QUOTE(cranx @ Jun 2 2021, 10:16 AM)
Im afraid 99% of ppl are going to skip this long read and tldr, until a figure of authority they trust says they might consider it.
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QUOTE(cranx @ Jun 2 2021, 11:19 AM)
ABOVE perfectly demonstrated the problem of headline reader.
READ again the first post of this thread. It is a RESPONSE to DG Dr Hisham.
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if DG already gave u so many trial and example that it doesn't work
alongside with test and trial done by other people around the world

thn why would u still press on and ask them to continue to use it?

at this point i'd have more confident DG looking into thai's green chireta/andrographis solution
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so this drug got no side effect?

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