ya. but panel really has no prob now. got no excuse to get it changed before warranty ends..

But to be frank. Local dimming with zones only do help it look better than normal lcd with local dimming but still lose out to OLED after all other brightness even with Bravia 9.

I have x90k and a80j, I can confirm this

Still always better to go for OLED anytime. The extra paid is worthy. 🤪

about 10k for a 65 inch Bravia 8, and Bravia 8 is entry OLED only. The TV prices I actually think is heavily inflated

10k is the discounted price currently. if during other concurrent sale, can get even cheaper than this price.
but u are right, it is still a lot of money to spend on a TV only.
but OLED really makes a difference. And experience of OLED makes it worth it.

luckily my 55-inch a80j is at reasonable price which i am contented with 55-inch of course in future if can get bigger OLED tv will be even better.

Will continue to look see look see hehe is there any more affordable branded TV? even LG OLED also super expensive. Sharp too...

This post has been edited by MasBoleh!: Jul 5 2025, 02:28 PM

yes, LG OLED is expensive also unless there is any discount.
For Sony, buying during year end or beginning of the year until April normally will have better deal which Sony official store also may offer tng vouchers for rebate etc.

Sony OLED actually uses LG panels as well just Sony uses it owns processor and they do their own tuning so even same panels but Sony’s picture quality and colours are normally better.

But OLED is just excellent for movies and everything. 🤪

I think cheaper brand like Hisense actually has OLED as well but build quality or durability etc. I could not comment though becos never use before. But every time saw the brand during home fair.

That's not true , when asked why there hasn't been successor of their wOLED , they have actually openly admit that LG's wOLED can no longer " satisfy " their needs for the utmost pristine picture quality.
Which is why both of their Flagship (still A95L) , and non flagship (Sony BRAVIA 8 II OLED) are now using QD OLED , a massive leap upgrade over wOLED.

I know Bravia 8 II is using QD-OLED from samseng and is better than OLED especially brightness.

I am referring to OLED variant here which it still uses LG OLED panel and cheaper than 8 II and to most ppl OLED alone is good enough if one does not want to fork out so much for a good TV.

From what I can see here , the Bravia 8 II is very impressive and affordable QD OLED TV . It is relatively pricey now because it is new and just launched not too long ago. It will eventually fall on the same level as Sony's other OLEDs especially when its not being marketed as Flagship ( flagship remains A95L ).

Again , QD OLEDs or not you still have to pay Sony taxes , which made them always priced above any other brands.

This post has been edited by Convael: Jul 6 2025, 05:08 PM

Just buy during the discount periods, usually around Nov-Dec they slash pretty good.

If you look at LG promo during festival, those rebate actually quite good deal, they even give +1 warranty

The QD-OLEDs are impressive for sure. The challenge is whether one is ok with the matte surface look. It matters less in light controlled environment but a challenge with light that hits the surface as its an excellent diffusor which means the light contamination is over a larger area. Each seems to have its own pros/cons. S95F all QD-OLEDs at 55/65/77in and S90F only QD-OLED at 55in. Bravia 8II tops out at 65in. C5 series very similar as C4. Tandem OLED G5 series seems to have its own issues this year which I doubt will get fixed completely. So one has to pick one's poison. The micro stutter on the S95F does make it slightly less ideal for fast moving sports. The G5s at least at launch seem to offer decent prices to compete with the S95F with the TnG rebate. And for once 83in G5 is available! Sony tax is inevitable, but good to hear that since the Bravia 8ii is not tagged as Flagship, the expectation is that the prices will drop and the price should be closer to the other similar brands (65 S95F, 65G5). Any news if Panasonic is releasing 2025 OLEDs in Malaysia? Seems quiet.

This post has been edited by anfieldude: Jul 7 2025, 10:05 AM

Bravia 8ii actually performs just as good as the A95L if not better. I checkout at one of the Sony centre in KV. They place all 3 OLEDs, 8ii, A95L and 8 side by side. And of course they are running retail vivid mode.

Color volume wise wRGB has no match. Fiery fire remains orangey on the QD-OLED from the front and stays consistent when viewed at angle from the side with no desaturation. Bravia 8 fiery fire is more faded bright orange/yellow. This is just one example.

G5 also has the dithering issue going on.

depending on individual preference. if one can fork out more for the highest end model, obviously one can get more from it as every money u paid counts.
but as said, OLED is decent enough to most ppl.
if $$ is not the concern, sky is the limit. No point discussing as all know that it will be better.

8 ii should be better and price is cheaper.
just funny thing is sony did not refresh 77-inch variant for A95L to 8 ii while A95L 77-inch remains the only choice for QD-OLED for ppl who wants big and again QD-OLED.

just funny thing sony malaysia only has 65-inch A95L and not even 77-inch selling and 65-inch A95L is rm4k++ more ex than 8 ii 65-inch which no one should be stoopig to choose this over 8 mark ii.

sony added bravia 2 ii as also. makes the line-up even more confusing to buyers, but of course with more variants, it may capture buyers with all kind of budgets. but 2 models of LCD with no local dimming.

3 models of mini-leds with local dimming

find it a big redundant...

bravia 2 ii - rm3999 for 65-inch
bravia 3- rm4699 for 65-inch...

price difference is minimal and the price difference justify for the better parts of bravia 3 vs bravia 2 ii.
as some commented here also bravia 3 in terms of brightness is already bare minimum. if bravia 2 ii is lower than it... it is not fantastic budget option also.



This post has been edited by westlife: Jul 7 2025, 11:29 AM

65" S90D is around 7.9k-8.2k on shopee as of now. And it's not the matte screen while retaining best color volume and brightness.

I think it's the best bang for the buck.

that's indeed not bad deal.

but i prefer sony only, and so far i only bought sony...

No doubt that QD OLED is great for color volume and is a closer to the colorimetry and intensity to display P3 color space more accurately. Unfortunately, at 77in there are limited choices and the one that does have the QD OLED Panel in Malaysia is not a Sony, which is a pity as they have very good processing.

It isn't just the Color volume and rec 2020 coverage, we had nothing to compare to before but now we see what QD-OLEDs are capable of, it is clear that they are far superior when it comes to near black luminance controls.

We should be reminded of the side effect LG's wOLED, whatever that white little subpixel is lifting is more than just the brightness.
This is what HDTVtest dubbed as " light chrominance overshoot " all the way back in 2018, LG has initially attempted to fix this (and still doing it) by producing a dithering Noise filter that smooth out the pixel transition from black to very dark gray.



Sadly this has caused some irrepairable dmg to the picture, particularly on old shows and very dark movies ( Look at these star wars 4k remasters and and the game of thrones series ).
Whenever theres a dark scene , it looks very hazy and chaotic to the point it looks like there's a flashing clump of dried up paintjob on your tv screen, no joking it does look that bad.
Given that the wOLEDs have gotten brighter, these artifacts actually look more prominent because the increase of dynamic range and contrast.

Anyone need convincing, dl a couple of ep from GOT season 8 and play it. I've also discovered a lot these in old HK movies, 80s and 90s sitcoms ( seinfeld, friends ,etc etc ) .

Ignorance can be a bliss. If you haven't seen how smooth it looks on the QD OLED, you wouldn't know how terrible it is.
If you ask someone like me, this remains the most significant flaw of wOLED. It is a huge distraction and degrade to PQ than any other criticism with QD OLED / WOLED, not the color volume loss ,not the motion hiccup ,not the botched Dolby Vision mode.




Off-topic as the following discussion will dwell into other brands but since Sony also has its own QD OLED lineup , the nature of QD OLED screens are the same.

I get the impression that whenever someone brought up the discussion of matte coating we are immediately reminded of the matte screen from PC monitors.
The Matte screen used by the new S95F is not the same.

It has a unique micro-etching patterns / texture ( feels very premium I might add ), which is used to diffuse direct reflection with extreme precision instead of just slapping them on top of the screen like butter on bread.
A quick comparison with PC monitor with matte coating will reveal how superior it is at suppresing glare while while also maintaining perceived colors under strong ambient lights.
It is definitely one of the best coating I've ever seen on screens ( and I've seen thousands of them by now ) .

While it is still prone to reduced contrast like other matte screens , it isn't much of an issue in a dim and dark room as there shouldn't be any direct reflection on the screen.

Of course if you are not unhappy with the matte screen , you can always get a S90 instead and mod it into the S95 mode. You actually get a better deal out of this and 4 full HDMI 2.1 ports.
(Unlike LG , Samsung is still pretty generous with their QD OLED models as they all share the same screens. )


Yes , the motion hiccups on Samsung's QD OLEDs , It is annoying for sure but not unbearable for me atleast. It is still quite random and seem to happen more frequently on slow motion replay and transition from very dark to very bright scenes. It has been there for several generation so maybe Samsung doesnt intend to fix it as some viewers wouldn't notice that <1sec micro stutter. Sony's own A95L has its own quirks as well, Dolby Vision is unwatchable on the TV it raises the black floor , counterproductive to the intent of " true blacks ". Which is also why HDTVtest recommends viewers to watch movies in HDR10 instead.

In terms of upscaling , these few brands are very close now but Sony remains the lead here especially in gradient smoothing. This is the one area Sony and Panasonic typically excel in. Again the Quantum Dots based OLEDs continues to have an edge here as it doesn't rely on white subpixel, contributing to a finer controls from black to gray.


At this point I am not sure where Panasonic stands in the local market. I have had a chat with one of the distributors, he mentioned that the sales of their OLEDs have basically collapsed and they might've moved less than 100 units of OLED TV last year. Panasonic is now re-focusing their effort into the USA market but we aren't getting any of those flashy models like z95A . A shame because I have always love how natural their display looks.

This post has been edited by Convael: Jul 9 2025, 10:05 AM

QD OLED does much better with low luminance colour volume as its also the way the panel is driven. Matte screen is definitely not for everyone and I agree it's not like the usual LCD matte screen but that way the surface diffuses the light will cause light contamination if there is some light source or reflected light source. The S90 equivalent with a non matte screen is a good take it's just that it's not using QD OLED panel at all sizes. They don't make it easy to know what panel for each size and unless someone knows how to look at the product code to decide which panel one is getting it can become an issue. I should be able to check out soon how the dithering will effect the image compared to a QD OLED ..no display is perfect unfortunately but one should decide what meets most of your boxes.

This post has been edited by anfieldude: Jul 9 2025, 02:58 PM