It seems like the X90J is not so much of an upgrade over the X90H. It has slightly better contrast ratio and SDR/HDR brightness.
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May 19 2021, 12:04 PM
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It seems like the X90J is not so much of an upgrade over the X90H. It has slightly better contrast ratio and SDR/HDR brightness. maeve liked this post
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Dec 16 2021, 03:07 PM
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Dec 16 2021, 03:00 PM) Yeap, absolutely worth it. I still prefer to watch HDR10 / DV contents on my LG OLED than my Sony X90H especially dark scenes with bright details. Though I don't own the A80J so can't say the same for that.Brightness/peak luminance is just one numerator of HDR range and only OLED can achieve true 0 nits to make the contrast ratio inf. |
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Dec 16 2021, 06:18 PM
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Dec 16 2021, 05:27 PM) If you want HDR, why do you buy OLED though? Samsung TV can go >1000nits for great HDR. They dont need DV. Mainstream OLED at best 600+ nits, just like a mid tier LED TV. You don't need 1000 nits to get HDR optimal performance on OLED. On LCD perhaps yes. But on OLED, its between <0.0005 nits to >540 nits is more than capable to have the pop for specular highlights.This post has been edited by Kahlamx: Dec 16 2021, 07:03 PM Convael liked this post
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Dec 16 2021, 06:37 PM
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Dec 16 2021, 10:37 PM
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Dec 16 2021, 07:25 PM) I don't know about you but even when I watched the reviews on my tablet, Samsung HDR always made me wow while OLED just feel accurately coloured. Yeah I get you, especially the QN90A really wow me as well. But price also quite steep.It boils down to preference I guess. I like the OLED deep black |
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Dec 17 2021, 11:37 AM
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Dec 17 2021, 02:07 AM) Managed to squeeze some time to inbox and setup the tv. I wonder if that has something to do with the X90J FALD 24 larger zones vs 32 on the X90H? Actually I already somewhat can tell the transition isn't that good on the X90H but can't judge based on my eyes. Should judge based on test patterns and reference points.What a big difference in hdr compared to Hisense A7400F. I think the Hisense is IPS screen since it's lacking in contrast. There's some adjustment needed to get used to it honestly. 1. The Hisense maybe dull and bloom but the brightness stay the same throughout bright and dark scene. X90J is a lot better but sometimes the transition between brighter and darker scene is quite blinding to the eyes. TheHisense though is impossible to watch in dark room (too bright) whereas the X90J don't have this problem. 2. I just need to use standard and lower brightness to 40. Colours is really nice unlike the flat colour on my Hisense. Red and green especially really pop off. There's too many setting on X90J to be honest. 3. Another thing I really like is the motion compensation. Whenever I tried to do black screen insertion in Hisense, it seems to make it worse. I had to set judder to 0 and blur to 3. The X90J don't have any problem even when motion compensation is on by default. How's the blooming around subtitles on the X90J? |
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Dec 17 2021, 05:23 PM
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QUOTE(Convael @ Dec 17 2021, 03:04 PM) I don't think you understand what is HDR , if at all . Well said. Human eyes are very sensitive to luminance ((black, absent of light) then white) thus, contrast ratio, then only chrominance (color info). Only if they understand this concept, then they will fully understand what is HDR. Dynamic range is like a canvas . It is measured similarly to contrast , which starts from the deepest black expanding to the brightest peak . It is what is giving pictures a sense of depth , again similiar to how we measure contrast which play the biggest role in determining picture quality . Yet under a typical situation , a 500 nits OLED TV will generate the same amount of impact (or "POP" which many of you have heard from HDTV ) as a 1500 nits LCD . That is because when it comes to dynamic range , the " darker " side of the measurement is far more valued than the brighter end of the spectrum . Which is also why the current LCD are trying to play catch up with " light blocking technology " such as the FALD / Mini LED . Human eyes are very sensitive to lights in a way that we are able to perceive more details in a dimmer environment than under strong lights. A 1500 nits FALD TV probably has a base black floor of around 0.025 cd/m2 , which is roughly equivalent to 1:12000 contrast . The OLED always starts from 0 , even with a 800 peak brightness it has a typical contrast rating of 1 : 1000000 . As you can see here , the gap of just 0.025 cm/2 makes up for such a stark difference in contrast ratings . Some people often associate HDR = highest peak brightness and etc. But they failed to understand its a range and it's not just about peak brightness. But man, those QN90A can really get very bright though. This post has been edited by Kahlamx: Dec 17 2021, 09:17 PM |
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QUOTE(Convael @ Jul 2 2022, 07:31 PM) Overall I am quite disappointed at the 2022 line up from Sony . I was at Sony Curve this past weekend, they have 1 unit of 85 X95K in the box, yes price is definitely very absurd. 28999 - 2k discount 26999. They didnt have anything for display though, so I cant view the TV. How's this TV compare to say QN95B?Obviously we are NOT getting the new Quantum Dots OLED model but they have aslo scapped the plan to release flagship wRGB A90K . So , no flagship OLED from Sony this year . And the Flagship MINI-LED is only available @ 85 " for an absurd price tag . |
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QUOTE(Convael @ Jul 20 2022, 02:22 PM) I have not actually seen a QN95B yet but I know the local QN95B is of the VA version ( with the View angles tweaks ) , which is a good thing consider how many were ranting on last year QN95A . So if it is anything like the last year QN95A , it is probably a very impressive TV . Alright thank you for your insight. I will check out QN95B first and see if any Sony Store has the X95K display to view. Yes sustained 2000 cd/m2 is really no joke (yes I am aware that black floor will be raised to maybe greyish black thus affecting HDR, but leave that or even the lack of Dolby Vision aside). I have seen the QN90A before, its indeed a very bright TV. Yes I am looking out for a bright TV to fiddle with TV settings. As for the X95K , it is Sony's first MINI LED and its performance is disappointing . Its specification is inferior to the ones found on Samsung's . I just don't think Sony's focus is on the high end LCD anymore . They are completely overshadowed by the QD-OLED & wRGB line up . For typical users , the QN95B is better in almost every way . Especially if you are like me , spend a lot of times to fiddle around with the settings . It is basically a mini supernova , sustaining @ 2000 cd/m2 which translates into very powerful performance under strong ambient light . The FALD on Samsung's has more zones as well and the antiglare filter is superior than the ones found on Sony . So unless you are so very obsessed with Dolby Vision and must get that ( Samsung TV still doesn't has it ) , probably get the QN95B instead . |
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QUOTE(Russkij @ Jun 9 2023, 09:14 AM) I just bought 65X90k and i noticed dark corner for all four corners. Is it normal or is it defect? and in some scenes the pictures appear to be a bit grainy. Normal for FALD tvs. If you look at Rtings test pic for 50% grey uniformity, they have the 4 dark corners also.https://i.rtings.com/assets/products/trvfod...k/dse-large.jpg |
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QUOTE(westlife @ Jun 15 2023, 10:56 AM) I brought to Sony service centre to check for possible repair. They told me that the motherboard is not in production anymore so even I can pay also not repairable. How much is the A80J after rebate?Then they said they can give 20% discount voucher for me to buy a new Sony tv if want. So I left the tv there to consider for 2 weeks then decided not collect back the tv and they just dispose for me. |
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QUOTE(westlife @ Jun 28 2023, 01:27 PM) icic. ok. i will try tonite. A80J remote should have the i+ button at the bottom right corner based on the manual.i also want to know if my set is really brand new although from my open box experience it should be. but good to double confirm. https://www.sony.com.my/electronics/support...-55a80j/manuals https://www.sony.com/electronics/support/re...1/50263391M.pdf |
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jul 7 2023, 09:16 AM) As long you're happy with it Nice setup you have there, cant imagine having a 77" OLED in my master room. lolPros and cons lor, but I do have the Sony 77" A80K in my bedroom, sound system is Q Acoustics 3010i LR and 3090Ci Center... with 2 ceiling speakers (configured to top middle) powered by Denon X3700H and a cute little QB12 subwoofer Perfectly fine for TV series binge (don't wanna be sacrificing my projector bulb life for these tv series). |
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jul 8 2023, 11:49 AM) When it was still not cluttered up 😆 77” is the biggest I could fit there… originally I bought a 65” too small haha… went to view several 85” including the miniled but still preferred the OLED. Very nice and clean setup. ![]() I will definitely upgrade to a 77" when I move to a bigger house, but definitely for the living room and not the bedroom lol. |
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