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post Sep 20 2021, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(AstonCheah @ Sep 20 2021, 03:05 PM)
hi all, would like to ask x90j 65" = rm6200/3yrs warranty, is it a good price
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6.2k with additional 1 year warranty I think can go for it.
Although 99 ard 5.9k with std warranty.
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post Sep 21 2021, 09:13 AM

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thanks all the inputs, i guess the price would not be much reduced than the current offer if i wait for the promotion.

QUOTE(Convael @ Sep 20 2021, 08:58 PM)
I have seen them below 6k with cashbacks and free stuff during sales period .
You can probably extort for further discount on 11/11 .
Again , why wait when you can have the TV now ?  It's not like you aren't going to get another 50 % discount from 6k .
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QUOTE(yujin86 @ Sep 20 2021, 09:26 PM)
6.2k with additional 1 year warranty I think can go for it.
Although 99 ard 5.9k with std warranty.
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post Sep 28 2021, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(Mirrors_Edge23 @ Sep 10 2021, 04:06 PM)
Got my A80J from Shopee and picking it up tomorrow. Can't wait as it is my first OLED.
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How was the experience watching in latest Sony OLED. Nice right smile.gif
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post Sep 28 2021, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(axenophage @ Sep 28 2021, 12:23 PM)
How was the experience watching in latest Sony OLED. Nice right smile.gif
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Love every minute with it. Never regret splurging more money on OLED
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post Oct 2 2021, 04:43 AM

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Looking got 50inch X80J.. but lazada and shopee very hard to find.. any idea why??
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post Oct 3 2021, 01:21 PM

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If you guys don't mind me asking, why you choose Sony over Samsung/LG?
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post Oct 3 2021, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(Created On 21/1/2021 @ Oct 3 2021, 01:21 PM)
If you guys don't mind me asking, why you choose Sony over Samsung/LG?
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Android based OS and perceived reliability
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post Oct 5 2021, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(Created On 21/1/2021 @ Oct 3 2021, 01:21 PM)
If you guys don't mind me asking, why you choose Sony over Samsung/LG?
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i just recently got 65x90j. i was deciding between x90j 65" and cx 55", they were both around the same price, reason to go for sony:

bigger screen, android os, no screen burn worry.

LG oled has better picture quality though..
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post Oct 7 2021, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(AstonCheah @ Oct 5 2021, 12:32 PM)
i just recently got 65x90j. i was deciding between x90j 65" and cx 55", they were both around the same price, reason to go for sony:

bigger screen, android os, no screen burn worry.

LG oled has better picture quality though..
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I was considering x90j too, but if I get this TV, I don't have the budget for an external speaker.

How's the quality of the speaker?
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post Oct 8 2021, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(Created On 21/1/2021 @ Oct 3 2021, 01:21 PM)
If you guys don't mind me asking, why you choose Sony over Samsung/LG?
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Android TV OS and excellent out-of-the-box image quality(accuracy/upscalling/motion/uniformity/gradient etc.) for most models (usually X85/X90 and above) when set to 'custom' picture mode with only backlight brightness adjustments needed to suit room lighting. There is usually no low frequency PWM flickering as well.
Edit: If not needing Android TV OS, Samsung and LG have some models with excellent image quality too. Just need to avoid lower end models and check reviews with measurements.
Edit2: To prevent misinterpretation, I'm just answering the question on why I chose Sony. I am not directly comparing Sony with Samsung/LG, explaining why people should choose Sony or implying that Sony is superior to them.

QUOTE(GuyM @ Oct 3 2021, 09:07 PM)
Android based OS and perceived reliability
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Regarding reliability, I had a Sony TV last 10 years without issues but also one that developed display fault in less than 5 years.

Out-of-the-box image accuracy of X90J subject to minor variance between individual units:
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QUOTE(Created On 21/1/2021 @ Oct 7 2021, 12:40 PM)
I was considering x90j too, but if I get this TV, I don't have the budget for an external speaker.

How's the quality of the speaker?
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I have home theatre system so did not test the built-in speakers of X90J. The built-in speakers have Dolby Atmos and auto calibration feature where you can use the remote's microphone to measure the sound at your listening position and the TV will calibrate the audio according to your TV placement and room conditions. There are also tweeters at the upper side of the TV besides the usual bottom speakers.

Attached below are the built-in speaker review from rtings:
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This post has been edited by AV_2018: Oct 8 2021, 06:14 PM
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post Oct 8 2021, 07:33 AM

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QUOTE(AV_2018 @ Oct 8 2021, 12:07 AM)
Android TV OS and excellent out-of-the-box image quality/accuracy for most models when set to 'custom' picture mode with only backlight brightness adjustments needed to suit room lighting.

Out-of-the-box image accuracy of X90J:

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Inaccurate assessment , because Accuracy of each individual TV models is highly subjected to Unit Variance since most TV are mass produced .
If you look at the pre-cab scoring from rting , the best scoring model is QN90A , which completely nullify your argument choosing Sony over Samsung .



In general , most of the mid-range to high end TVs should have acceptable accuracy when switching to the most accurate viewing mode .
Sometimes a little warmer , or a little cooler but nothing too destructive compare to the ABC from China .

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In dilemma choosing between x90j 65' (around RM6.5k-7k) or a80j 55' (around RM 7.5k-8k)...Should I take take a leap of faith to smaller OLED screen size or better off with bigger 65' size TV??
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QUOTE(Convael @ Oct 8 2021, 07:33 AM)
Inaccurate accessment , because Accuracy of each individual TV models is highly subjected to Unit Variance since most TV are mass produced .
If you look at the pre-cab scoring from rting , the best scoring model is QN90A , which completely nullify your argument choosing Sony over Samsung .
In general , most of the mid-range to high end TVs should have acceptable accuracy when switching to the most accurate viewing mode .
Sometimes a little warmer , or a little cooler but nothing too destructive compare to the ABC from China .
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Of course there are Samsung and LG models that have great out-of-the-box image too and a few Sony models have disappointing accuracy. But most Sony models usually have great accuracy. Looking at rtings table, notice that at the bottom of the pre-calibration rankings, there is rarely a Sony TV. According to rtings measurements, Sony TVs tend to follow the HDR EOTF curve more closely as well.

Unit variance is not that much which can be estimated by comparing different reviewers but depends on accuracy of their meters too.

Anyway, see what rtings has to say about the pros and cons of each TV:
https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sony#compared
https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/samsung#compared
https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg#compared

Sony is the only one among these 3 which they mention "Great color accuracy" and no "Uniformity issues".

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post Oct 8 2021, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(AV_2018 @ Oct 8 2021, 12:45 PM)
Of course there are Samsung and LG models that have great out-of-the-box image too and a few Sony models have disappointing accuracy. But most Sony models usually have great accuracy. Looking at rtings table, notice that at the bottom of the pre-calibration rankings, there is rarely a Sony TV. According to rtings measurements, Sony TVs tend to follow the HDR EOTF curve more closely as well.
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I don't think you understand what those ranking means IRL .

There are a bunch of Sony TV scoring below 7 and you seem to think 5.8 is much worse .
The truth is both Samsung and LG has far more entry level models than Sony, it is only natural they are taking more spots at the bottom .



I am telling you this , pre-cab settings are random , period .

And no , the adherence to the HDR EOTF curve is but only 1 minor aspect of Picture Accuracy .
In fact , that has nothing to do with pre-cab at all because the numbers are not randomized , they are going by the same input from the factory calibration .
Meaning ? You cannot exactly change the value without making sacrifice because they are how the brand want you to see view HDR on their screen , it is intentional .

And please don't throw HDTVtest's quoting at me , tyvm .
You are talking to someone who actually calibrate TVs here , not random fanboi who defend their brands obsessively not knowing what they are talking about .


If accuracy means that much to you , why are you even looking at Sony ?
Panasonic is the King of that . No one come close to them even for pre-cab settings .

Instead of being obsessed with pre-cab settings , you should be looking at their CMS .
2 points are easy to do on Sony's CMS but if you are looking at 10 points , you should be looking at Panasonic .

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post Oct 8 2021, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(Convael @ Oct 8 2021, 01:09 PM)
And please don't throw HDTVtest's quoting at me , tyvm .
You are talking to someone who actually calibrate TVs here , not random fanboi who defend their brands obsessively not knowing what they are talking about . 
If accuracy means that much to you , why are you even looking at Sony ?
Panasonic is the King of that . No one come close to them even for pre-cab settings .

Instead of being obsessed with pre-cab settings , you should be looking at their CMS .
2 points are easy to do on Sony's CMS but if you are looking at 10 points , you should be looking at Panasonic .
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I see. I can only depend on rtings measurements and quotes since I am not a calibrator. Panasonic was not using Android TV before and rtings rarely reviews them so I didn't consider Panasonic. The reason I choose Sony is not accuracy alone but Android TV + image quality (accuracy/uniformity/upscalling/motion etc.) as mentioned in my original post (edited that post to clarify). If there is an Android TV from other brand with equivalent image quality without the need to tweak many settings then I'll consider that too. About CMS... I don't intend to spend money on calibrating TVs so I pick ones that have good accuracy without the need to be calibrated with a meter. If phones and PC monitors can be factory calibrated accurately, an expensive TV should also be accurate out-of-the-box without further calibration.

QUOTE(Convael @ Oct 8 2021, 01:09 PM)
2 points are easy to do on Sony's CMS but if you are looking at 10 points , you should be looking at Panasonic .
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Newer Sony TVs actually have 10 points white-balance control as well but doesn't matter since I'm not manually calibrating.

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QUOTE(Created On 21/1/2021 @ Oct 7 2021, 12:40 PM)
I was considering x90j too, but if I get this TV, I don't have the budget for an external speaker.

How's the quality of the speaker?
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The tv speakers are generally good enough for casual YouTube. If you want to enjoy 5.1 sounds, definitely need to go for sounds system. I have a 5.1 sound system,but only use it for quality movies. For YouTube I only use tv speakers.

QUOTE(~C.W.S~ @ Oct 8 2021, 10:18 AM)
In dilemma choosing between x90j 65' (around RM6.5k-7k) or a80j 55' (around RM 7.5k-8k)...Should I take take a leap of faith to smaller OLED screen size or better off with bigger 65' size TV??
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I was the same as u, choosing between bigger lcd or smaller OLED. But I went for 65"x90j. No regrets. Can see my previous post for the reason.
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QUOTE(terrior147 @ Jul 12 2021, 04:01 PM)
Managed to grab the Sony X90J 55" from Lazada TechMall for RM3,999 during 7.7 Sale with free delivery some more.

Just received it two days ago. Pretty good deal and loving it. So far so good.

Those who are waiting to pull the trigger maybe can wait for the next sale.

Can't see such price from other sellers so far.
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Hi, I am looking for X90J 55" too.. is the RM3,999 after using coupon or something? currently saw the price cheapest is RM4,500..
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Check out 9.9 ONE DAY OFFERSONY KD-65X85J 65" X85J | 4K ULTRA HD | HIGH DYNAMIC RANGE (HDR) | SMART TV (GOOGLE TV) for RM4,787.00. Get it on Shopee now! https://shopee.com.my/product/427548952/120...33-1633768709.9.

Am eyeing this and no plan for gaming, just for movies and YouTube. Anyone knows what was the historical cheapest price and any cheaper than this? Need to pull the trigger tonight
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QUOTE(AstonCheah @ Oct 9 2021, 01:46 PM)
I was the same as u, choosing between bigger lcd or smaller OLED. But I went for 65"x90j. No regrets. Can see my previous post for the reason.
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Thanks, decided x90j after I visit shop to compare both. A80J for sure better both myself and my wife feel get "suck into" the scene when we watched 65' OLED biggrin.gif and 55 inch just feel bit small and not to mention double the price. x90j aren't lost so much either but provide very bright screen sharp picture quality with reasonable price of 6.3k.
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asking on behalf of a fren now checking 65" A80J, A90J.

he said the extended warranty to 5 years from one dealer is +18% or so.

does anyone know if this is normal?

what about X80J, X90J... the extended warranty cost?

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