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azriel
post Sep 11 2021, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(Frozen_Sun @ Sep 11 2021, 01:56 PM)
Of course, it's common knowledge that amphibious IFV is lightly armored.
But, AAV-7 is a 3.5 meter tall lumbering box, while BMP-3 is much shorter and can shoot back furiously.
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So what other choice do we have? Its either the AAV7 or the ZAHA. Don't know if they want the wheeled Pandur 8x8 like the TNI-AD though. Afaik both BMP-3F and BT-3F contracts are on hold not cancelled. Unless Indonesia got a waiver from the US.

US to Exempt India, Indonesia and Vietnam from CAATSA Sanctions

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The United States Senate Committee on Armed Services plans to exempt some US strategic allies; India, Indonesia and Vietnam from Countering America’s Adversaries Through Sanctions Act (CAATSA) that allows the nations to buy Russian military equipment without any threat sanctions.

“The final piece of legislation will exempt just three countries—India, Indonesia, and Vietnam—from a robust sanctions regime enacted and imposed last year,” Sen. Jim Inhofe Republican Senator from Oklahoma, who helped craft the annual defense bill as part of the House Armed Services Committee was quoted as saying by the Daily Beast Monday.

“They are currently buying [Russian] equipment that has to be maintained until they make the transition, and those three fall into that category,” Inhofe said in a brief interview.

“That was us,” Inhofe added, referring to the fact that Congress, not the Trump administration, decided which countries can obtain waivers.


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post Sep 11 2021, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(akagidemon @ Sep 11 2021, 10:55 AM)
satu la yang aku dok harap, malaysia beli super tucano 2-3 biji untuk role of border patrol dkt sabah. boleh supplement hercules yang kita tgh pakai sekarang.
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Kalau kita beli LCA secukupnya then takde keperluan untuk Super Tucano kerana LCA mampu hantar bomb jugak

Best lagi katana tak perlu satu lagi supply chain asing untuk satu lagi model aircraft
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post Sep 11 2021, 03:42 PM

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TUDM Terus Guna F/A-18D Hornet, Su-30MKM Sehingga Tahun 2035, 2040

Menurut Panglima TUDM Jen Tan Sri Ackbal Abdul Samad, untuk memastikan pesawat-pesawat pejuang TUDM itu mampu beroperasi dengan berkesan sehingga tahun 2035 dan 2040,  ia akan menjalani proses penyelenggaraan khusus dan program naik taraf.

By Admin On Sep 10, 2021

(DEFENCE SECURITY ASIA) – Pesawat-pesawat pejuang, F/A-18D Hornet dan Sukhoi Su-30MKM akan terus berkhidmat dengan Tentera Udara Diraja Malaysia (TUDM) sehingga tahun 2035 dan tahun 2040, sebelum ia digantikan dengan pesawat-pesawat pejuang yang baru.

Menurut Panglima TUDM Jen Tan Sri Ackbal Abdul Samad, untuk memastikan pesawat-pesawat pejuang TUDM itu mampu beroperasi dengan berkesan sehingga tahun 2035 dan 2040,  ia akan menjalani proses penyelenggaraan khusus dan program naik taraf.

“Untuk memastikan ia (F/A-18D dan Su-30MKM) meneruskan kemampuan operasinya, pesawat-pesawat F/A-18D akan menjalani program penyelenggaran dalam negara 12 tahun (Local Planned Maintenance 12 years – LPM12Y) pada tahun ini.”


Read more: https://defencesecurityasia.com/tudm-terus-...ahun-2035-2040/

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post Sep 11 2021, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Sep 11 2021, 03:42 PM)
Sukhoi already 14 years since we got it while the Hornet 24 years, man our jets are all old af

A400M probably the youngest aircraft we have


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post Sep 11 2021, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Sep 11 2021, 03:42 PM)
Just RMAF? Have a little walk and see what will become of the RMN.

It is not about the military per se. The whole country needs a reset.
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post Sep 11 2021, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Sep 7 2021, 12:00 PM)
Itu bukan kickbacks, but offset
it was clearly documented between government and government deals
mana2 major procurement semua ada offset between government involved
bukan senang satu negara nak bayar harga besar macam tu.
No. Not all countries have "offsets". And yes, the countries that do are often knee-deep in corruption. The result of which are delays and FFBNW fiascos and directors who abscond to other countries.

Offsets have largely not benefited Malaysia but enrich criminals.

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post Sep 11 2021, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(Mai189 @ Sep 11 2021, 04:21 PM)
No. Not all countries have "offsets". And yes, the countries that do are often knee-deep in corruption. The result of which are delays and FFBNW fiascos and directors who abscond to other countries.

Offsets have largely not benefited Malaysia but enrich criminals.
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kickback antar politician mana depa nak bagi tau
offset is based on the country requirement, every contending company are aware of this as it is stated during the tendering. NGPV FTBNFF tu dulu boleh la tanya hero Parti PH 2018 pasal besfren dia tak kene bawa ke muka pengadilan lagi sampai sekarang ni.
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Actually, what about mines? Seems like a cheap way to deny parts of the ocean. Could even contribute to something of a "scorched earth" policy if necessary.

The Finnish for example are big on mines.
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post Sep 11 2021, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Sep 11 2021, 04:26 PM)
kickback antar politician mana depa nak bagi tau
offset is based on the country requirement, every contending company are aware of this as it is stated during the tendering. NGPV FTBNFF tu dulu boleh la tanya hero Parti PH 2018 pasal besfren dia tak kene bawa ke muka pengadilan lagi sampai sekarang ni.
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Oh please. The whole system of offset has done practically nothing to Malaysia but fostered corruption.

That the MAF is in this state is a testament to that.

It is just rubbish. Just buy off the shelf and MAF wont be in this shit.

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post Sep 11 2021, 06:44 PM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Sep 11 2021, 02:51 PM)
So what other choice do we have? Its either the AAV7 or the ZAHA. Don't know if they want the wheeled Pandur 8x8 like the TNI-AD though. Afaik both BMP-3F and BT-3F contracts are on hold not cancelled. Unless Indonesia got a waiver from the US.

US to Exempt India, Indonesia and Vietnam from CAATSA Sanctions
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Yes...I know there's no choice...if US insists to block the sales. US is too dominating.

We will end up with AAV7 and it's a severe downgrade.
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post Sep 11 2021, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Sep 11 2021, 03:42 PM)
Not bad...
2035 is a good time to buy 5 gen fighter. The jet will be more matured.
Let's focus on LCA and LIFT at the moment.
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QUOTE(Mai189 @ Sep 11 2021, 05:59 PM)
Oh please. The whole system of offset has done practically nothing to Malaysia but fostered corruption.

That the MAF is in this state is a testament to that.

It is just rubbish. Just buy off the shelf and MAF wont be in this shit.
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I've my selves has been to the Bae offset program with the university iinm the UNIKL
the involvement of local companies with the A400M production has also been well documented

the system is not perfect I can give you yet, tapi dah berganti kerajaan pun tak berubah pun sistem ni, infact 2019 lagi banyak syarikat berlumba-lumba nak jadi local agents laugh.gif

bila kau cakap pasal corruption benda ni semua mana ada termasuk dalam ni, kalau documented jawabnya habis la kantoi laugh.gif


but from your statement I can see that you are really do not have the understanding at the first places so let me help you:
1. MAF don't buys they just Request
2. The government is the one buying, so don't put the MAF and the government together

this system has been in Malaysia since PM 4 time, and looks like it never going to leave anytime soon. Tak tau la kalau ada ubah lagi lepas ni kot. one thing for sure under PH it's never going to change in the first place whistling.gif

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post Sep 11 2021, 08:34 PM

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U.S. to Deliver Hellfire Missiles to Indonesia, Greece, U.A.E., Kuwait 

Our Bureau 04:47 AM, September 11, 2021

Lockheed Martin won a $101 million contract to supply Hellfire missiles and containers to Indonesia, Greece, U.A.E., and Kuwait.

In a statement today, the U.S. Department of Defense said, “Lockheed Martin Missiles and Fire Control, Orlando, Florida, was awarded a $101,332,412 modification (P00073) to contract W31P4Q-18-C-0130 for procurement of Hellfire missiles and containers. Work will be performed in Orlando, Florida, with an estimated completion date of Sept. 30, 2024. Fiscal 2019, 2020 and 2021 procurement, defense-wide funds; and 2010 Foreign Military Sales (Indonesia, Greece, United Arab Emirates and Kuwait) funds in the amount of $101,332,412 were obligated at the time of the award.”


Read more: https://www.defenseworld.net/news/30402/U_S...it#.YTyhGOoxU0M

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post Sep 11 2021, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Sep 11 2021, 08:29 PM)
I've my selves has been to the Bae offset program with the university iinm the UNIKL
the involvement of local companies with the A400M production has also been well documented

the system is not perfect I can give you yet, tapi dah berganti kerajaan pun tak berubah pun sistem ni, infact 2019 lagi banyak syarikat berlumba-lumba nak jadi local agents  laugh.gif

bila kau cakap pasal corruption benda ni semua mana ada termasuk dalam ni, kalau documented jawabnya habis la kantoi  laugh.gif 
but from your statement I can see that you are really do not have the understanding at the first places so let me help you:
1. MAF don't buys they just Request
2. The government is the one buying, so don't put the MAF and the government together

this system has been in Malaysia since PM 4 time, and looks like it never going to leave anytime soon. Tak tau la kalau ada ubah lagi lepas ni kot. one thing for sure under PH it's never going to change in the first place  whistling.gif
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What are you talking about? The point is that it does little 2 benefit Malaysia.

And why on earth would corruption be documented?Does it foster corruption? Certainly.

I am not interested with your beef with Ph. The whole system needs a reset.

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QUOTE(Mai189 @ Sep 11 2021, 08:36 PM)
What are you talking about? The point is that it does little 2 benefit Malaysia.

And why on earth would corruption be documented?Does it foster corruption? Certainly.

I am not interested with your beef with Ph. The whole system needs a reset.
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nak menang gak tu, amik lah amik lah

little benefit kat Malaysia pun, ko gak yang sibuk laugh.gif

jangan harap la sistem nak reset lagi atas2 tu tak mati rolleyes.gif
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post Sep 11 2021, 08:46 PM

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Indonesia Confirms C-130J Airlifter Order

by David Donald
September 11, 2021, 5:27 AM

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Air Chief Marshal Fadjar Prasetyo poses with a section of a C-130J-30 destined for Indonesia during a September 7 visit to the production line. (Photo: Lockheed Martin via TNI-AU)

A visit to Lockheed Martin’s plant in Marietta, Georgia, by Indonesia’s Air Force Chief of Staff, Air Chief Marshal Fadjar Prasetyo, on September 7 resulted in confirmation that the country's air force has ordered the C-130J Super Hercules, the latest version of the perennial transport. The number of aircraft now on order has not been formally revealed but is believed to be five.

As the aircraft were ordered as a direct commercial sale, the purchase had previously gone unpublicized. The Indonesian air force (TNI-AU) is understood to have selected the stretched C-130J-30 in 2018, and it is thought to have placed an order in the following year. During the air chief’s visit to Marietta, he was photographed alongside a flight deck section of the first C-130J-30 for the TNI-AU, indicating that the initial aircraft could be handed over sometime next year, although no delivery schedule has been announced.


Read more: https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/def...airlifter-order


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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Sep 11 2021, 08:41 PM)
nak menang gak tu, amik lah amik lah

little benefit kat Malaysia pun, ko gak yang sibuk  laugh.gif

jangan harap la sistem nak reset lagi atas2 tu tak mati  rolleyes.gif
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Bila mati, jawab la di akhirat yer.
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post Sep 11 2021, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Sep 11 2021, 08:34 PM)
how many indoensia buy? for apache only or other asset too?
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Bila mati, jawab la di akhirat yer.
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