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KLthinker91
post Apr 28 2021, 02:46 PM

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So, I bet LTZ is looking forward to trying to torpedo HMS QE? biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Frozen_Sun @ Apr 11 2021, 10:19 PM)
FA-50 is comparable to Yak-130, Hawk etc...

JF-17 is more like earlier blocks of F-16
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FA-50 with the Elbit radar is at least equal to Jf-17
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post Apr 28 2021, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Apr 28 2021, 03:28 PM)
FA-50 is not a good aircraft, no where close to JF-17 Block 2.
You have to pay attention to which variants you are comparing

JF-17 Block 2 and FA-50 are roughly equivalent at the very least; same goes for the JF-17 Block 3 and FA-50 Block 20

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Never buy weapon from a country that is not super power and rely in third party to supply engine, avionics. Buy only from US
Why not? If you buy FA-50 you are indirectly buying US nod.gif

And the major NATO countries have some good equipment, many in use also by the US. And in the aerospace field, it's always a bad idea to not take Saab into consideration

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Budget issue go for J-10C. Else F/A-18E/F. Forget overpriced Rafale with expensive maintenance
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Not sure about Rafale per se, but France has a long history of selling good miltech for low value, I would not dismiss them out of hand like that

Buy Chinese products to curb Chinese expansionism? "Brilliant" idea...
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post Apr 29 2021, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Apr 29 2021, 10:06 AM)
You buy FA-50, you buy from US via middleman resulting in double markup being more expensive. When comes to war, South Korea is not super power and they won't dare to deliver goods to your doorstep if situation is deadly. You buy from US, Russia or China, their shipment will still deliver whether they have to wade through battlefield.

French weapons were used to be good alternative if you cannot get American or Russian back then in 60's, 70's but today they are nothing more than overpriced unreliable impractical junks that only look good on paper like pijot.

MY and China aren't enemy. If MY at war with SG, it is US that will place embargo on MY. This is why MY buy weapons from US, Russia and now China. If either 1 doesn't work, we get another as backup.

French is part of NATO US allies, refer Falklands war where Argentine operated US & French equipment being placed on embargo by US for fighting British invaders, numbers of Argentine weapons in despair due to no spare parts. Iraq in 1989 had numbers of relatively new French weapons, they all failed against US weapons while Russian weapons that managed to do at least some killing.
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Uhhh
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post May 3 2021, 08:22 PM

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Myanmar lost a chopper, surprised no coverage here?
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post May 4 2021, 07:28 PM

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UK Royal Marines testing jet suit for VBSS



Inb4 RA2 Rocketeer lol
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post May 30 2021, 06:46 AM

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QUOTE(Al-Benis bin Hugh Mungus @ May 30 2021, 06:03 AM)

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Still clinging to fantasies of "independence" rolleyes.gif
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post Jun 6 2021, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(darth5zaft @ Jun 4 2021, 05:27 PM)

It's a jet that couldn't shoot. But good enough as a awac & Sigint replacement. But it also couldn't be upgraded. You sure you wanna blow your money on it?
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don't buy into anti-F35 hype bruh

5th gen aircraft and 5th gen weapons systems are a step change from Sukhoi-30s + R-77s about as much as F-15C + Amraams were a step up from F-4 + Sparrow
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post Jun 13 2021, 07:51 AM

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QUOTE(Lampuajaib @ Jun 13 2021, 07:39 AM)
The development of F35B VTOL has made smaller carrier is possible for small defence force, but I would say this carrier is just a"modified" LHD size.

Even ID and SG has this "carrier" design which is basically a strecthed LPD.
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The smaller carrier concept or Sea Control Ship is a proposal dating back to 60s and the BAe Harrier, and even combat proven to some extent in the Falklands War

But again as I posted last time with the Izumos, the question is what is INSIDE this carrier design that counts. The Izumos, we know now, were built with F35 conversion in mind. Contrast against the similar Hyugas which are "true" LPHs; the Hyugas would be much less capable and much more expensive to convert.

Similar differences between the British Invincibles, Harrier-capable, and the Ocean, a strictly Heli-only amphibious warship. Even if one fitted a ramp to Ocean it would not have been suitable as a "mini carrier".
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post Jun 13 2021, 07:55 AM

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QUOTE(nasi lemak 20 sen @ Jun 11 2021, 11:55 AM)
Indonesia reacted nicely to China threat. Meanwhile Malaysia still cannot prioritize national security vs songlap. We failed hard. No other explanation.
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Songlap uber alles
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post Jun 14 2021, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(darth5zaft @ Jun 13 2021, 02:56 PM)
this jet too can only be sold to country that themselves can bought american or european jet. so the possibilities of block 2 or 3 being finance by foreign sales is rather limited.

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that is already a given due to the engine tech. same for FA-50.

QUOTE(darth5zaft @ Jun 13 2021, 05:31 PM)
Though US probably won't have a problem transferring technology that the chinese can master. So unless the Chinese has internal targeting pod & their carrier  have electromagnetic launcher, doubt US would transfer those tech to SK.

China is indeed building an EMALS for their latest carrier but not sure how efficently it works compared to US EMALS.

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So it's quite an opportunity for new up & comers to wrestle the techs leadership away from SK, under US blessings off cause.
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Har? Who do you see taking the lead from SK? blink.gif

QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jun 13 2021, 09:21 PM)
SK, they don't build anything other than assembling parts imported from USA. They pretty much depend entirely on US buying parts separately. There's no technology transfer if SK can't even reverse engineer replicate the entire engine, avionics.
Depends

it's true that majority of parts will be assembled, however SK electronics may be lots more advanced than we think, Samsung has come a long way from where it used to be

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Unlike China, they get their hands on blackhawk, they came up with WZ-20 copycat blackhawk, they got their hands on LANTIRN pod, you see their fighters carrying a replica. Miraculously, they copied quite good.
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WZ-20 can look like a Blackhawk but whether it performs like a Blackhawk is a whole nother story. just like how a UH-60A can look like a Blackhawk, but is way different from a UH-60M.

Reverse engineering only takes you so far. especially now where material science is a huge part of the tech ability.

so whether they actually did "copy quite good", is a real question. see for example early Chinese copies of jet engines.

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post Jun 14 2021, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(sukhoi35mk @ Jun 14 2021, 01:27 PM)
I guess that's why China secretly acquired western military crashed aircrafts to study the material and hardware e.g. The crash special stealth Blackhawk used in Osama killing mission..I won't be surprise if they already access the some part of F-1117 nighthawk crashed during Bosnia war or RQ-170 stealth drone hijacked by Iran
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We know they have, and Russia too, that's just the way the game is played

But the F117 is very old tech
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post Jun 18 2021, 08:00 AM

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QUOTE(Blinklime @ Jun 15 2021, 09:44 AM)

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Very good video series

See the air war one as well

Desert Storm was a once in a lifetime event, doubt we'll see its like ever again
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post Jun 26 2021, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Jun 25 2021, 12:01 PM)
price looks inclusive of hefty training and support package. relatively few air-to-air munitions, even so.

as I said on other threads: even single-engine modern combat aircraft is expensive
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post Jul 29 2021, 04:35 AM

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QUOTE(junkyman @ Jul 1 2021, 11:41 PM)
F16V doesn't have Meteor
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post Jul 29 2021, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(junkyman @ Jul 29 2021, 10:45 AM)
Got AIM-120 !!!
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Meteor is a step above
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post Aug 14 2021, 07:26 PM

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QUOTE(Mai189 @ Aug 14 2021, 01:56 PM)
The Indos are funny...
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be that as it may, why are your jimmies rustled?
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post Aug 15 2021, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(Mai189 @ Aug 15 2021, 12:03 AM)
Taking stock as is. And no. R urs?
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Not at all lol

I'm not the one who finds some kind of vicarious satisfaction from SG Army hardware biggrin.gif
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post Aug 15 2021, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(Mai189 @ Aug 15 2021, 12:26 AM)
Ah well, I couldnt find any with Msias hardware. Why would anyone?
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That's not the point, and the fact that you missed it is a big indicator what's the problem here...
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post Aug 15 2021, 12:45 AM

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QUOTE(Mai189 @ Aug 15 2021, 12:33 AM)
Hahaha. No at all. The point is that You are missing the forests for the trees. Be more inclusive.
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Okay whatever floats your boat
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post Aug 15 2021, 01:10 AM

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QUOTE(Mai189 @ Aug 15 2021, 12:58 AM)
Come on Klthinker

Ive seen enough hubris and unfairness to last a life time so i left to be elsewhere. Im trying to help you rise above the miasma of confusion and chains holding us back home. Ill leave it at that.

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The way you're doing it is not right, and I think you probably have more pressing personal matters that you should spend time on.

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