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post Apr 11 2021, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Apr 11 2021, 08:58 PM)

FA-50 is comparable to Yak-130, Hawk etc...

JF-17 is more like earlier blocks of F-16
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post Apr 24 2021, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Apr 23 2021, 12:53 PM)
Can't understand why keep on using Nanggala. They should start the decommissioning process, when KRI 403 was commissioned. I think TNI-AL gets too attached to Cakra and Nanggala after using them for 40 years.
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post Apr 28 2021, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Apr 28 2021, 02:46 PM)
So, I bet LTZ is looking forward to trying to torpedo HMS QE? biggrin.gif
FA-50 with the Elbit radar is at least equal to Jf-17
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perhaps similar to Tejas? Both use EL/M-2032
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post Apr 30 2021, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Apr 30 2021, 09:00 PM)
just few days ago designated as terrorist group
big operation now after their one-star general got assassinated in an ambush

Papua intelligence chief killed in Indonesia rebel attack

JAKARTA (AFP) - An Indonesian regional intelligence chief was killed in an ambush by rebels in the restive Papua region, the military confirmed on Monday (April 26) as the country's president vowed to crush the separatists.

General I Gusti Putu Danny Karya Nugraha, who headed Papua's intelligence agency, was shot dead during a shootout after rebels opened fire at a patrolling security forces unit in the Papuan highlands on Sunday.

"He was in the area as part of the operation to restore security and to boost the morale of locals in the region following a series of attacks by separatist and terrorist groups," National Intelligence Agency spokesman Wawan Purwanto told Agence France-Prese.

Security forces have been ramping up the military operation in the remote Puncak district after rebel groups killed soldiers and teachers, torching several schools and a helicopter in recent weeks.

President Joko Widodo said on Monday he had ordered the police and military "to chase and arrest" all members of the rebel groups in the remote eastern province.

"I want to emphasise again that there is no place for armed groups in Papua," Mr Widodo said.

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/p...ia-rebel-attack

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he was killed 25 April...before OPM declared terrorist
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post May 21 2021, 08:27 AM

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If it's true 36 Rafales...it will be around $5.5bn with Egypt's pricing
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post May 21 2021, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(Lampuajaib @ May 21 2021, 11:19 AM)
I wonder how Indonesia can cover all TNI plan to buy jets , heavy frigate and others.
There are Rafale, KFX and F-15EX for AF
There are heavy frigate and subs in quite number for navy
There are also something for the army.

That will cost over than 10 billions dollar
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The allotted fund for armament modernization is Rp 42,65 triliun or $2.9bn this year, from the $9.5bn defense budget.

So, probably can be paid off in 4-5 years, provided the defense budget increase gradually

https://www.cnbcindonesia.com/news/20201005...pa-saja-di-2021




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post May 30 2021, 12:27 AM

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QUOTE(azriel @ May 28 2021, 07:51 AM)
Indonesia priority is not in defense right now but in infrastructure. The defense budget is not even reaching 1% of GDP. Even with less than 1% budget the defense budget is now at USD 9.5 billion as Indonesia GDP is over USD 1 Trillion. There is plan to increase the defense budget to 1.5% of GDP (around USD 15 billion).

A recent survey by Kompas shows 92.8% of Indonesians wants the military to be strengthen.
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The lowest ratio in region

https://www.statista.com/statistics/810421/...-gdp-indonesia/
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post Jun 2 2021, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Jun 2 2021, 08:12 AM)
$5 billion a year....

it could start from $3 billion per year, then around $8 billion per year in 2040

So, probably just allocation of regular budget. It remains to be seen if this will be followed up by future presidents. Jokowi and ryamizard terminated SBY's MEF program, so there's no obligation for future presidents.
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post Jun 2 2021, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Jun 2 2021, 09:33 AM)
Its not quite like that based from news. All of the funds must be disburse up until 2024. The disbursement to be in stages. The time frame to 2044 iinm is for the financial payment period.
This is why some military analyst questioned it although they support this huge defense budget.
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We'll see...

but at this stage, a few billions USD worth of acquisition each year from regular defence budget is more believable to me.
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post Jun 4 2021, 10:21 AM

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If we get F-35 block 10 relatively cheaply due to economies of scale...SG and AU will butthurt...lol
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post Jun 4 2021, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(UnknownMy @ Jun 4 2021, 11:13 AM)
We won't get F-35, coz US won't sell to us... sad.gif  sad.gif
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not now....but they will. If F-16, F-15 and F-18 no longer in production.
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post Jun 5 2021, 07:48 AM

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QUOTE(Maria Takagi @ Jun 5 2021, 07:30 AM)
True

Too much anti yehudee rhetoric

Even aim 120 missile they refuse to sell

Our hornet plane disadvantage
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if not mistaken TUDM already got thirty AIM-120C5 and AIM-120C7
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post Jun 5 2021, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(Maria Takagi @ Jun 5 2021, 11:48 AM)
Got sos ?
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post Jun 5 2021, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Jun 5 2021, 11:10 PM)
jokowi stopped SBY's MEF and restarted with it the same renstra system, then he gets the praise.

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post Jun 13 2021, 06:37 PM

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Lockheed Martin is so hopeful that TNI-AU will buy F-16 Block 72, they already have a dedicated page on it

https://www.lockheedmartin.com/en-us/produc...-indonesia.html
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post Jun 13 2021, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Jun 13 2021, 06:43 PM)
Yes but unfortunately according to sources the F-16V is not in the MoD list of defense procurement until 2024. Only the Rafale and F-15 are in the list.
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Rafale is better....with low RCS airframe, SPECTRA and long-ranged Meteor. Already has AESA radar too.
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post Jun 13 2021, 07:09 PM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Jun 13 2021, 06:50 PM)
Unconfirmed report they are looking at the newest Rafale F4 variant.
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Hopefully, if not F3R variant already fine
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post Jun 15 2021, 08:49 AM

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QUOTE(alexz23 @ Jun 14 2021, 11:11 PM)
Singapore is still flying four KC-130B that is more than 60 years old, with no plans to retire them soon.

2x built in 1958, 2x of 1960 vintage.

TUDM has 5x Hercules of mid 1970s vintage, 3x of early 80s, 6x of early 90s.
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as long as replace worn out engines and check airframe integrity regularly...it's alright
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post Aug 12 2021, 06:13 PM

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QUOTE(Lampuajaib @ Aug 12 2021, 07:42 AM)
When will be delivered?
I cant see any sensor put under the belly only FLIR under the nose
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Depends on order...the one for Senegal has radar and FLIR. The options are Thales OceanMaster, Searchmaster or Telephonics APS-143C(V)3 radars

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post Aug 14 2021, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Aug 14 2021, 10:45 AM)
Unconfirmed report specification of the Indonesian Navy variant of the Iver Huitfeldt Class:

• LOA 143,57 meters
• MR SAM VLS 3 x 8 cells
• LR SAM VLS 4 x 8 cells
• LR SSM VLS 2 x 8 cells
• Gun 2 x 76 mm
• CIWS 35 mm
• Torpedo
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Aster 15/30 for MR/LR SAM
Exocet MM40 Block 3 for LR SSM

The most sensible choices

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