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azriel
post Aug 19 2021, 07:33 AM

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New CN235 MPA for the Indonesian Navy undergoing test at PTDI facility. Credit to Fahmi Imadudin.

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Lampuajaib
post Aug 19 2021, 07:49 AM

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QUOTE(darth5zaft @ Aug 18 2021, 07:24 PM)
For light infantry?


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Hmmmm....
I almost forgot even he US also start the MPF project acquring 105mm tank.
Bionix and K21 also adopted 105mm cannon.

Maybe TDM should consider it.
105mm cannon can be put on gempita.

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post Aug 19 2021, 07:59 AM

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QUOTE(Lampuajaib @ Aug 19 2021, 07:49 AM)
Hmmmm....
I almost forgot even he US also start the MPF project acquring 105mm tank.
Bionix and K21 also adopted 105mm cannon.

Maybe TDM should consider it.
105mm cannon can be put on gempita.
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The Boxer is also adopting the Cockerill 3105 turret.

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04 MARCH 2021

Boxer awaits firing trials with John Cockerill Defense C3105 turret

by Christopher F Foss

A Belgian John Cockerill Defense C3105 two-person 105 mm turret has been integrated onto a rear mission module of the Boxer 8x8 Multi-Role Armoured Vehicle (MRAV) at Krauss-Maffei Wegmann’s (KMW’s) facilities in Munich, the company has confirmed.

This combination has also completed some company mobility trials in Germany, and manned firing trials are planned to take place in Germany or the UK when Covid-19 restrictions are lifted, according to the two contractors. It was originally expected that this combination would be shown for the first time at the Eurosatory exhibition in Paris in June 2020, but that event was cancelled due to the pandemic.

A Boxer MRAV with its rear mission module mounting the John Cockerill Defense C3105, and showing the roof-mounted commander’s panoramic sighting system. (Krauss-Maffei Wegmann)

The turret is armed with a 105 mm high-pressure rifled gun fed by an automatic loader, with this version fitted with stabilised day/night sights for commander and gunner, enabling hunter/killer target engagements while stationary or moving.


Read more: https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news-det...se-c3105-turret
Lampuajaib
post Aug 19 2021, 08:06 AM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Aug 19 2021, 07:59 AM)
The Boxer is also adopting the Cockerill 3105 turret.

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Read more: https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news-det...se-c3105-turret
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This turret is on demand now....
It offers new great features.
darth5zaft
post Aug 19 2021, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(Lampuajaib @ Aug 19 2021, 07:49 AM)
Hmmmm....
I almost forgot even he US also start the MPF project acquring 105mm tank.
Bionix and K21 also adopted 105mm cannon.

Maybe TDM should consider it.
105mm cannon can be put on gempita.
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U forgot JDF type 16.

I think the harimau,bionic,MPF & type 16 is to be use together with paratroopers. Seems like it to be use to fight in remote road inaccessible island, somewhere their MBT can't go? If not mistaken SG try putting the 120mm cannon on the bionic but failed with JP couldn't get licencing on 120mm cannon on the type 16.

I think our relatively light pendekar can go everywhere we need it too.

If we needed something faster & lighter i say let buy jaguar ebrc, it's an anti air, reconnaissance and fire support vehicles all roles into 1. It's also cheap at 4 mil each. Hahaha. Let's buy 100 of those.


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post Aug 19 2021, 05:28 PM

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In my opinion, the best executed light fire support vehicle so far is the Jaguar EBRC. It is in a sweet spot of low cost, adequate firepower, light weight and mobility.

Not many AFV nowadays cost less than 1 million euro like the Jaguar EBRC, the only thing cheaper from my memory is the Oshkosh JLTV at around 350 thousand dollars each.
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post Aug 19 2021, 06:16 PM

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If not mistaken jaguar ebrc, like griffon & Ceaser are all build on the same Renault truck platforms.

Renault truck are a fully own subsidary of Volvo trucks. Both Volvo & Renault do have assembly plant here.

The turret are build by thales, nexter & bae, thales if not mistaken partner with Sapura to network the army, nexter already license the assembly of their 105mm canon here locally. While bae are partner of deftech. The 40mm CTA turret can also be use for marine vehicle namely utilized by RMN & MMEA as a quasi CIWS & cannon. The turret can also be use by AF as part of their GBAD.

So it's relatively reliable, easy to fix, cheap, pretty adequate firepower, easy to connect as part of a networking, CNA be deployed at scale, made by companies with strong local present & connection, and can be locally assemble.

I think it ticks a lot of right boxes.


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post Aug 19 2021, 08:36 PM

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Walkaround FNSS Zaha & Kaplan MT.


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post Aug 20 2021, 10:17 PM

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Serial Production Kaplan MT - IDEF 2021. Credit to FNSS.

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post Aug 21 2021, 12:56 PM

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post Aug 21 2021, 01:34 PM

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Launching of Indonesian Navy new Fast Attack Missile Craft Trimaran KRI Golok-688. Credit to Berita Jatim.

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Lampuajaib
post Aug 21 2021, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(darth5zaft @ Aug 19 2021, 06:16 PM)
If not mistaken jaguar ebrc, like griffon & Ceaser are all build on the same Renault truck platforms.

Renault truck are a fully own subsidary of Volvo trucks. Both Volvo & Renault do have assembly plant here.

The turret are build by thales, nexter & bae, thales if not mistaken partner with Sapura to network the army, nexter already license the assembly of their 105mm canon here locally. While bae are partner of deftech. The  40mm CTA turret can also be use for marine vehicle namely utilized by RMN & MMEA as a quasi CIWS & cannon. The turret can also be use by AF as part of their GBAD.

So it's relatively reliable, easy to fix, cheap, pretty adequate firepower, easy to connect as part of a networking, CNA be deployed at scale, made by companies with strong local present & connection, and can be locally assemble.

I think it ticks a lot of right boxes.
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Jaguar ebrc 6x6 can fill TDM requirement for UN mission.
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post Aug 21 2021, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Aug 20 2021, 10:17 PM)
Serial Production Kaplan MT - IDEF 2021. Credit to FNSS.

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Look prettier than bionix....
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post Aug 21 2021, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Aug 21 2021, 01:34 PM)
Launching of Indonesian Navy new Fast Attack Missile Craft Trimaran KRI Golok-688. Credit to Berita Jatim.

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ID has done their homework hope no fire alarm this time.
It is BNS turn when will launch the LCS?
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post Aug 21 2021, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(Lampuajaib @ Aug 21 2021, 03:08 PM)
Jaguar ebrc 6x6 can fill TDM requirement for UN mission.
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A bit overkills. We are not hunting tanks or shooting plane or anything there

The jaguar 'little sister' the griffon should be enough.

Hopefully the griffon is considered as the condor replacement.
100x better than that lipan bara.
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post Aug 22 2021, 09:11 AM

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QUOTE(darth5zaft @ Aug 21 2021, 05:53 PM)
A bit overkills. We are not hunting tanks or shooting plane or anything there

The jaguar 'little sister' the griffon should be enough.

Hopefully the griffon is considered as the condor replacement.
100x better than that lipan bara.
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Griffin rather looks like MRAP than APC. No problem really but I like APC better than MRAP for UN mission.
Maybe TDM can ask a modified jaguar with smaller weapon and troop space
azriel
post Aug 24 2021, 09:22 PM

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Bridge view of Indonesian Navy new KRI Golok-688.


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First Steel Cutting Ceremony of Indonesian Navy new OPV 90M and OPV at PT Daya Radar Utama Shipyard. Credit to Kemhan RI.

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PT Daya Radar Utama (DRU) OPV 90M.



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