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post Jun 8 2021, 04:58 PM

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post Jun 10 2021, 05:53 PM

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FINCANTIERI WILL PROVIDE 8 VESSELS TO INDONESIA 

The Group has been awarded the program for the Navy of the Asian Country 

10 JUNE 2021

Trieste, June 10, 2021 – Fincantieri, one of the most important shipbuilding groups in the world, and the Ministry of Defense of Indonesia, have signed a contract for the supply of 6 FREMM class frigates, the modernization and sale of 2 Maestrale class frigates, and the related logistical support.

The order represents a success for Fincantieri and for the Country, which has a fleet of 10 FREMM ships. The agreement is of the utmost importance to strengthen the collaboration between two Countries in a strategic area of the Pacific.

Fincantieri will be prime contractor for the entire program. The construction of the frigates will ensure significant employment benefits not only for several Italian shipyards of the Group in the next years, but also for other companies in the sector, namely Leonardo, as well as numerous small and medium-sized national companies, and will see the collaboration of the local PT-PAL shipyard (Java island). The modernization of the two Maestrale class vessels, which Fincantieri will acquire from the Italian Navy once decommissioned, will also be carried out in Italy.

Giuseppe Bono, CEO of Fincantieri, commented: “The acquisition of an order of this magnitude allows Fincantieri to also assume global leadership in the surface ships sector, and is the confirmation of the technological leadership of a project once again considered the most innovative on the market which led to 20 ships for several foreign Navies, between orders and options. This program has an extraordinary strategic importance, both for the economic return for our Country and for the Italian defense supply chain, and because it ensures Fincantieri’s strong positioning in the area, paving the way for the finalization of further important negotiations for other programs already in progress also in the civil sector”. Bono concluded: “Finally, I want to acknowledge our Navy, which has made a decisive contribution to building together with the Country’s industry a ship that is appreciated all over the world and which fully satisfies its operational needs”.


https://www.fincantieri.com/en/media/press-...s-to-indonesia/



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post Jun 10 2021, 06:09 PM

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Good news, the Ministry of Defense and Dassault have signed the initial 36 Rafale contracts

Posted onJune 10, 2021

AIRSPACE REVIEW (airspace-review.com) – Good news from the planned purchase of defense equipment by the Ministry of Defense of the Republic of Indonesia (Kemhan RI).

An Airspace Review source in Jakarta said the Indonesian Ministry of Defense and Dassault Aviation (the manufacturer of the Rafale) from France had signed an initial contract for the procurement of 36 multi-role fighter jets.

The signing of the initial contract called the “Come Into Force” contract was signed on Monday, June 7, 2021 and will take effect in December 2021.

"The 'Come Into Force' contract was signed on Monday, June 7th. The contract will go into effect in December this year," said an AR source.

He added that Indonesia's journey to get the Rafale plane from France is still long.

The “Come Into Force” contract will then become the basis for the Effective Contract after all agreements between Indonesia and France are reached and Indonesia has paid an advance for the purchase of 36 Rafale.


Read more: https://www.airspace-review.com/2021/06/10/...awal-36-rafale/
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FREMM is a good ship.
6 somemore.

Does this mean they would quit having a large but minimal equip army and goes for a minimal in numbers but modern equip army?
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post Jun 10 2021, 06:59 PM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Jun 10 2021, 06:47 PM)
Wow....
I"m speechless....
Is it real?
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post Jun 10 2021, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Jun 10 2021, 05:53 PM)
Seems that your assessment before was actually right. I found some Indonesian articles recently explaining the 2020-2044 spending plan. Essentially, the US$125 Billion spending is meant to be made within the 2020-2024 period, it is the delivery and payments schedule for those orders that will last to 2044. So that's the clarification that I managed to glean, for anyone interested.

That probably explains the sudden bulk orders.

If this turns out to be true, then we can expect more bulk orders in the very near future. But this also worries me regarding the possibility of conflict erupting in the Western Pacific. This kind of sudden buildup had to have come from somewhere. While it is true that Indonesia Armed Forces were underinvesting for decades, that was possible because there were no external threats to the country's security. This kind of spending implies a change in threat perception. I hope it's not a sign of something bad brewing. unsure.gif
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post Jun 11 2021, 07:21 AM

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According to this Italian article PT PAL to build 3 units FREMM for the Indonesian Navy.

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As far as RID is aware, the first 3 FREMMs will be produced in Italy, as well as in Italy the modernization of the 2 MAESTRALE, which Fincantieri will acquire from the Navy once decommissioned, will be carried out, while the other 3 FREMMs will be built by the local PT PAL shipyard. More details in the next few hours and on RID 7/21.


https://www.rid.it/shownews/4226
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CVX CLASS AIRCRAFT CARRIER (LPX-II / 대형수송함-II)
Hyundai Heavy Industries CVX Class Aircraft Carrier (LPX-II)
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Double island design is the new trend or something?

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post Jun 11 2021, 11:55 AM

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Indonesia reacted nicely to China threat. Meanwhile Malaysia still cannot prioritize national security vs songlap. We failed hard. No other explanation.
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QUOTE(nasi lemak 20 sen @ Jun 11 2021, 11:55 AM)
Indonesia reacted nicely to China threat. Meanwhile Malaysia still cannot prioritize national security vs songlap. We failed hard. No other explanation.
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12 FA-50 + 12 Gripen C/D
Tak lama lagi dah MY pun kena pintas pinoy

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QUOTE(HangPC2 @ Jun 9 2021, 06:11 PM)
CVX CLASS AIRCRAFT CARRIER (LPX-II / 대형수송함-II)
Hyundai Heavy Industries CVX Class Aircraft Carrier (LPX-II)
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Compare to Queen Elizabeth?
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QUOTE(Lampuajaib @ Jun 8 2021, 12:46 PM)
Can RMAF wait for T7?
It is still in prototype stage. The USAF already booked for 350 units.
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According to these Speculative T7 development path
https://warontherocks.com/2017/05/reclaimin...proven-success/

The next variety is just a rebadged Gripen
Afterwards a trainer attackers
Then a pure close air support varient.
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Indonesian MoD Prabowo Subianto and officials from the Ministry of Defense held a brainstorming meeting with top officials from the Army, Air Force and Navy. Credit to Kemhan RI.

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This Brainstorming Weapons Requirements Plan is intended to match user needs, in this case the TNI, with the blueprint for long-term defense equipment needs prepared by the Ministry of Defense.


https://www.kemhan.go.id/2021/06/11/menhan-...dan-tni-al.html





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So rare to read military news related to Malaysia
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QUOTE(biruNippon @ Jun 12 2021, 08:16 AM)
So rare to read military news related to Malaysia
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for M'sia, pretty much dead for several years now in terms of military procurements.. biggrin.gif only news we'll get in the near future is probably more China intrusion news or successful raids on ESSZONE..

understandably, government currently preoccupied with recovering economy and covid... all funding goes to there.. very unlikely we going to buy any new military stuff during these times..

on a sidenote, im actually surprised Indonesia could proceed with their procurements during these times, guess their economy still strong and still have a lot of funds..
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New NC-212i light transport aircraft for the Indonesian Air Force undergoing testing at PTDI facility. Credit to PTDI.

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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Jun 12 2021, 08:55 AM)
for M'sia, pretty much dead for several years now in terms of military procurements..  biggrin.gif  only news we'll get in the near future is probably more China intrusion news or successful raids on ESSZONE..

understandably, government currently preoccupied with recovering economy and covid... all funding goes to there.. very unlikely we going to buy any new military stuff during these times..

on a sidenote, im actually surprised Indonesia could proceed with their procurements during these times, guess their economy still strong and still have a lot of funds..
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Very sad to see this.

Yea, i am surprised with how Indonesia managed to continue all the procurements. Can see majority of the military news posted here were from them

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