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post Oct 21 2021, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(alexz23 @ Oct 21 2021, 12:01 PM)
F/A - 50 the best option

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Anything with palm oil barter is a good deals
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There's should be 3 more paper coming out in 2021/2022

1) defense investment national plan
2) defense national industry policy
3) defense capacity blueprint


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post Oct 22 2021, 08:10 PM

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Big win for the Philippines.
12 F16 for half the previous price


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Big win for the Philippines.
12 F16 for half the previous price


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post Oct 23 2021, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(Lampuajaib @ Oct 23 2021, 07:20 AM)
WTF....
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post Oct 23 2021, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(abmawie @ Oct 21 2021, 01:14 PM)
I don't really get what the AUKUS thing is all about.
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Australians found that they had been fucked over by Eurocopter and DCNS enough, plus they settled internal political issues regarding nuclear power, so they decided to join Anglo alliance, simple as that
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post Oct 24 2021, 05:27 AM

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Good News!

H20 seem had start lobbying the FPDA to get the 5th gen fighter.

PETALING JAYA: Pengaturan Pertahanan Lima Kuasa (FPDA) disifatkan sebagai relevan untuk tempoh 10 tahun akan datang sehingga 2031 bagi memperkukuhkan aspek keselamatan antara negara anggota.

Menteri Kanan Pertahanan, Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Tun Hussein berkata, negara yang terlibat dalam FPDA juga telah bersetuju menyatakan lima komitmen bagi menjamin keselamatan serantau.


Katanya, antara lima komitmen tersebut termasuk pengenalan aset generasi kelima dan memberi fokus kepada peningkatan misi melawan kegananas dan keselamatan maritim bukan tradisional.

“Selain itu, FPDA akan memberi fokus untuk mempertingkatkan keselamatan siber secara berperingkat dan meneruskan program pemerhati sebagai jaminan kepada jalinan kerjasama serantau.

https://www.utusan.com.my/terkini/2021/10/f...-lima-komitmen/
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post Oct 24 2021, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Oct 23 2021, 10:53 PM)
Australians found that they had been fucked over by Eurocopter and DCNS enough, plus they settled internal political issues regarding nuclear power, so they decided to join Anglo alliance, simple as that
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So what happens to NATO and why isn't NZ involved?
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post Oct 24 2021, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(abmawie @ Oct 24 2021, 11:55 AM)
So what happens to NATO and why isn't NZ involved?
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NZ is functionally irrelevant, it can be considered on a level of microstate, militarily. they are nearly as dependent on Australia as Brunei is on Singapore, so they are a non-factor, as much as Jacinda Arden can bleat and whine about hurr durr nuclear power rolleyes.gif

AUKUS will have no impact on NATO as they are two totally different theaters of war. Germany will make noise for 3 reasons; to backup the anti-Anglo Fra-Ger alliance, to pretend at neutrality with China and Russia in order to protect their trade relations with them, and because AUKUS just took away a potential customer of German U-boats biggrin.gif but NATO as a whole is firstly Anglo-dominated, and secondly already sick of Fra-Ger passivity so it's not entirely their show

EU27 now is very anti-Anglo because of jealousy over the US economy and Brexit, so they will try and do their own thing to at least make a big PR hoohah that "we have our own EU version of 'aukus' too". But here's the thing: they already have a far more integrated alliance. It's called Eurocorps, and supposedly ties in troops from all the Euro countries. It doesn't do jack shit because the Europeans are generally useless.

The reason is that the EU's main enemy remains of course Russia. But the key anti-Russia framework is NATO, which is Anglo-dominated making up nearly 70% of its overall firepower. What's stopping them from making NATO defunct and making EU the key military alliance? The top 4 GDP countries in the EU27 (now that UK has left) are Germany, France, Italy and Spain - all in the far West of Europe. The threat is in the East. These countries are unwilling to spend the time, money and effort to be the new Big Brother, by protecting the eastern borders. As such the Baltics have accused Germany of leaving them to be picked off by Russia; Poland has accused Germany of treating it as a buffer state biggrin.gif

TL;DR, unless and until Germany gets off its ass and does something useful, Anglo-led NATO is still the big boss and all the rest is European cock talk biggrin.gif

I think lah. Who knows biggrin.gif
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post Oct 24 2021, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Oct 24 2021, 03:17 PM)
NZ is functionally irrelevant, it can be considered on a level of microstate, militarily. they are nearly as dependent on Australia as Brunei is on Singapore, so they are a non-factor, as much as Jacinda Arden can bleat and whine about hurr durr nuclear power rolleyes.gif

AUKUS will have no impact on NATO as they are two totally different theaters of war. Germany will make noise for 3 reasons; to backup the anti-Anglo Fra-Ger alliance, to pretend at neutrality with China and Russia in order to protect their trade relations with them, and because AUKUS just took away a potential customer of German U-boats biggrin.gif but NATO as a whole is firstly Anglo-dominated, and secondly already sick of Fra-Ger passivity so it's not entirely their show

EU27 now is very anti-Anglo because of jealousy over the US economy and Brexit, so they will try and do their own thing to at least make a big PR hoohah that "we have our own EU version of 'aukus' too". But here's the thing: they already have a far more integrated alliance. It's called Eurocorps, and supposedly ties in troops from all the Euro countries. It doesn't do jack shit because the Europeans are generally useless.

The reason is that the EU's main enemy remains of course Russia. But the key anti-Russia framework is NATO, which is Anglo-dominated making up nearly 70% of its overall firepower. What's stopping them from making NATO defunct and making EU the key military alliance? The top 4 GDP countries in the EU27 (now that UK has left) are Germany, France, Italy and Spain - all in the far West of Europe. The threat is in the East. These countries are unwilling to spend the time, money and effort to be the new Big Brother, by protecting the eastern borders. As such the Baltics have accused Germany of leaving them to be picked off by Russia; Poland has accused Germany of treating it as a buffer state biggrin.gif

TL;DR, unless and until Germany gets off its ass and does something useful, Anglo-led NATO is still the big boss and all the rest is European cock talk biggrin.gif

I think lah. Who knows biggrin.gif
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You calling Germany useless kinda hits too hard at home lah bos 🥲.

As it is we also play the same game as Germany, overly reliance on the Anglo Saxon to provide us protection while doesn't really do enough ourselves which itself a very parasitic behavior while backstabbing them in the process to fake play neutrality.




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QUOTE(darth5zaft @ Oct 24 2021, 10:48 PM)
You calling Germany useless kinda hits too hard at home lah bos 🥲.

As it is we also play the same game as Germany, overly reliance on the Anglo Saxon to provide us protection while doesn't really do enough ourselves which itself a very parasitic behavior while backstabbing them in the process to fake play neutrality.
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One big difference between us and Germany is that we are nobody in this region whereas Germany is undisputedly the king shit of the EU biggrin.gif

So no, not quite the same thing biggrin.gif but you have a point as regards our fake neutrality
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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Oct 24 2021, 10:54 PM)
One big difference between us and Germany is that we are nobody in this region whereas Germany is undisputedly the king shit of the EU biggrin.gif

So no, not quite the same thing biggrin.gif but you have a point as regards our fake neutrality
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Well, yeah, Unfourtunately we are always destined to be the 5th largest economies & we would not do more then what the Netherlands did.

Well come to think of it Netherlands is quite a comparable economically (machinery, plantation,oil & shipping) & socially (Pillarisation society) to MY. Guess We would just play deputies to whoever the king shit is, and king shit guranteed our security.

The Netherlands army suck up to Germany & Italy, their navy suck up to UK & AF suck up to the US. Glad we only have 1 king shit thus No matter how much Mahathir dislike the king of shit back then, he still go out and bought the M11a1s,meko, hawk & hornet.




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2022 National Security Budget.

The Defence Ministry is getting RM16.14 billion in the 2022 budget while the Home Ministry was allocated RM17.089 billion. This is the third year running that the Home Ministry got a higher allocation than Defence, following the government decision in 2019 to place the MMEA in the former. The national security sector got RM33 billion out of the RM311 billion allocated for 2022 or around 11 per cent of the total budget.

The 2022 allocation for Defence is an increase of some RM280 million allocated in 2021. Next year’s budget for Home Ministry also a slight increased from 2021, which was RM16.85 billion.


Operating expenditure (OE) for Defence in 2022 is RM11.05 billion, a slight decrease compared to last year which RM11.35 billion. Development Expenditure (DE) increase by some RM400 million to RM5.04 billion in 2022 compared to RM4.5 billion in 2021. What is interesting the allocation for asset procurement goes up to RM5.04 billion in 2022, it was RM4.5 billion last year.

A CGI of P-4 MPA by De Havilland and PAL Aerospace. PAL Aerospace

The DE for the Army in 2022 is RM175 million while equipment is RM1.12 billion; the RMN is RM68 million and RM1.07 billion; RMAF RM39 million and RM1.6 billion and Joint Force Command RM82 million and RM298 million. Interestingly STRIDE is receiving RM40 million in funds in 2022 compared to RM7 million in 2021 and RM5 million in 2020. The Armed Forces quarters development is allocated RM488 million this year compared RM293 million last year and RM166 in 2020.
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The OE for the Home Ministry is RM13.5 billion while the DE is RM3.5 billion. The bulk of the OE and DE for the Home Ministry is of course allocated to the PDRM which is getting RM2.05 billion for its DE budget. MMEA is getting RM183 million in DE for 2022 compared to RM141 million in 2021.


https://www.malaysiandefence.com/2022-natio...ecurity-budget/
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Wow.
They actually go buy a big iklan while erdagon schedule a visit next year.

Personally, i don't appreciate them trying to rope us into their own mess.
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QUOTE(darth5zaft @ Nov 5 2021, 08:43 PM)
Wow.
They actually go buy a big iklan while erdagon schedule a visit next year.

Personally, i don't appreciate them trying to rope us into their own mess.
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malaysia already produce plenty of aerospace components so both could symergise each other. Even if malaysia didn't end up with Hurkus we might have chance with TFX
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QUOTE(darth5zaft @ Oct 24 2021, 05:27 AM)
Good News!

H20 seem had start lobbying the FPDA to get the 5th gen fighter.

PETALING JAYA: Pengaturan Pertahanan Lima Kuasa (FPDA) disifatkan sebagai relevan untuk tempoh 10 tahun akan datang sehingga 2031 bagi memperkukuhkan aspek keselamatan antara negara anggota.

Menteri Kanan Pertahanan, Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Tun Hussein berkata, negara yang terlibat dalam FPDA juga telah bersetuju menyatakan lima komitmen bagi menjamin  keselamatan serantau.
Katanya, antara lima komitmen tersebut termasuk pengenalan aset generasi kelima dan memberi fokus kepada peningkatan misi melawan kegananas dan keselamatan maritim bukan tradisional.

“Selain itu, FPDA akan memberi fokus untuk mempertingkatkan keselamatan siber secara berperingkat dan meneruskan program pemerhati sebagai jaminan kepada jalinan kerjasama serantau.

https://www.utusan.com.my/terkini/2021/10/f...-lima-komitmen/
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QUOTE(HangPC2 @ Nov 5 2021, 07:42 PM)
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