Ask British donate euro fighter tempest

malaysia already produce plenty of aerospace components so both could symergise each other. Even if malaysia didn't end up with Hurkus we might have chance with TFX

Ask British donate euro fighter tempest

https://defencesecurityasia.com/gripen-sert...-flit-lca-tudm/
F414, ToT, yadda yadda yadda
   
bye2 tejas

https://defencesecurityasia.com/gripen-sert...-flit-lca-tudm/
F414, ToT, yadda yadda yadda
   
bye2 tejas

Sejumlah lapan Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM) telah memberi maklum balas terhadap Permintaaan Untuk Maklumat (Request For Information) kepada TUDM

Don't wanna hold my breath but really hope we can get gripen for lca/lift though some may argue that it may be overkill for such purpose.

Then again, it might be the optimal balance between quantity & quality

silly Defence Security Asia.

That interview is old news, even if just published.

Using old RFI news for its new gripen article. Now tender already closed with just 7 companies answering the tender, and gripen is not among those that answered the tender.

Deputy Commander Of Indonesian Navy Aviation Leads Presentation of H145M and H225M Helicopters By PT Airbus Helicopter Indonesia Via Video Conference

Puspenerbal, November 4, 2021,

Deputy Commander of the Navy Aviation Center (Puspenerbal) Admiral TNI Bayu Alisyahbana, S.M., CHRMP., led the presentation of the H145M and H225M helicopters by PT. Airbus Helicopter Indonesia, at the Mako Puspenerbal Meeting Room, Juanda, Sidoarjo, Wednesday (3/11). Presentation of H145M and H225M Helicopters by PT Airbus Helicopter Indonesia through vicon.

The Indonesian Navy Puspenerbal wants to strengthen its fleet to carry out its duties, the H145M and H225M helicopters will join the Puspenerbal Navy fleet for combat assignments.

"We strongly support the TNI AL Puspenerbal's decision in selecting the H145M and H225M helicopters to complement their fleet. The H225M is a helicopter that has been tested in the battlefield and is loved by many customers around the world. This order reflects Indonesia's confidence in Airbus Helicopters," said Airbus Helicopters Indonesia in its statement when describing the two helicopters, Wednesday (3/11).

Deputy Commander of Puspenerbal requested that "the working unit associated with the planned helicopter selection thoroughly study the specifics of the advantages of the two helicopters, for us to convey to the top leadership.

Bayraktar drone might be interesting given the huge sales interest, might bring unit costs down. Plus the Turks must be hurting for cash Absolutely no long term deals though, the lira problems may contaminate the programme

We simply can't afford Gripen in any meaningful numbers, unless we combine the LCA and MRCA requirement and spend a HUGE chunk.

Sunday, February 25, 2018
MRCA - The Big Picture
With the Indian MRCA seeing conclusion with the selection of Rafale contract and Indonesia selecting to purchase 11 Russian-made SU35 , eyes are now back on Malaysia.  The Malaysian MRCA programme has yet to be concluded despite being evaluated since 2002.

So what is delaying the Malaysian MRCA programme?  Is it because Malaysian Government do not have the money for the programme?  Or are there other underlying reasons which has resulted in the programme having a very slow start?


I've been writing about this MRCA programme quite a few times.  But as much I would like to think I understand the issue, I'm no expert when compared to some of my peers.  Even considering these friends as peers is already stretching it.

To understand the stakes in the Malaysian MRCA programme, I've decided to 'interview' my friend, Mr. Shamsul Anwar Hussein on the MRCA programme.  The 'interview' was an impromptu interview, held in a very informal setting, ie via Whatsapp.  So do bear with me if the article does not flow smoothly, as it would be following the flow of our discussion.

Mr. Shamsul Anwar, or Sam Pasha Kaplan as I would call him, is an aerospace industry consultant with Frost and Sullivans.  He has a wide background in banking, finance, and defence industry of more than 20 years.



Wordings in italics are my questions while those in normal fonts are Mr Sam's response.  For a clearer context, the interview questions are basically premised on the possibility that the Government wants to use the purchase to jumpstart our aerospace industry in view that the National Aerospace Industry blueprint was launched by DS Hishammuddin some 3 or 4 years ago.

Any idea on our internal capacity and quality? Do we have the capacity to assemble our MRCA?
We have no quality problem. Let me take you through one by one.

ACM in Bukit Kayu Hitam and CTRM in Melaka have been manufacturing components for world renowned Boeing, Bombardier and Airbus for many years now. Meanwhile SME Aerospace has been manufacturing weapon pylons for Hawks. UMW has a manufacturing facility in Serendah manufacturing engine casings for Rolls Royce engines.

In terms of designing, Strand Aerospace which belongs to MARA has been involved in designing components for Airbus, Boeing and even for Rafale. They're based at Damansara Perdana and Cyberjaya, with offices in Europe.

Does that mean if we buy our MRCA, we can get them to be assembled in Malaysia? Can the MRCA be the precursor for our own aerospace industry?
Yes, we are more than capable of doing full production. For that, we need System Integrators. CTRM - SI has such facilities in Subang and Melaka for this.

However, things look different if we look at the finance closely. The initial investment is very high. It will take years before we can recoup our investment. It will be very much dependent on the offsets offered by the manufacturers and this in turn is highly dependent on how many aircrafts that we are willing to buy.

What are the possibility that we get the manufacturers to open factory lines in Malaysia? So that they can meet their production requirement faster?
Unless out of the blue, the manufacturers are willing to relocate their whole manufacturing facilities to Malaysia.

Would that be viable to the manufacturers to move their production line to Malaysia? That would only be possible if we procure sufficient units.
The thing about the manufacturers are these.

It is easier to negotiate with D'Assault Aviation as they alone produce Rafale. From a commercial and business standpoint, it can be much easier to negotiate with one party.

Now let is look at the Typhoon. The UK is very serious to rekindle close relationship with Malaysia. The Typhoon itself is manufactured by 4 countries. You will be surprised to know that from experience, it can be easier to negotiate with an entity with multiple partners. Whatever you cannot get from Germany, you can bypass and negotiate with Spain, UK and Italy.  More offsets here.  Imagine when you're a child.  What you can't get from Daddy, you try to get from Mummy.

In terms of quality, you can't based on the quality of Rafale alone. Typhoon is also undergoing massive evolution currently.  Look at the overall big picture.  The offsets that we can get are massive as these implies technology transfers in many areas.

Another thing to note is at the total lifecycle cost.  Initial purchase price can sometimes be 20% to 40% of the total lifecycle cost.

Next, the financing package.  Who can give us the best financing or even the softest of loans?

We have to study in detail on the overall offsets offered by the manufacturers.  For example, setting up of aerospace companies doing design, manufacturing, assembly, MRO (Maintenance, Repair and Overhaul), system integration, general aviation (training, simulators, etc).  This in turn leads to new jobs being created.  This is what we need to look at, the offsets game.

And yes, even the US is also increasing their footprint in Malaysia via Spirit Aerospace in Subang, manufacturing Boeing parts, Honeywell and also General Electrics.  In this respect, BAe with Typhoon and Gripen wins.

Not Rafale?
Imagine what we can get from UK, Spain, Italy and Germany combined.  Sometimes, offsets can be non-aerospace related.

For example, Italy might want to set up a Fiat/Chrysler assembly plant in Malaysia as we have a strong automotive base for the region.

Then there's geopolitics.  There is this perception that the French did not do enough to assist when compared to the UK in the MH370 crisis.  The UK even sent a nuclear submarine to assist.  Another point on geopolitics is Russian involvement.  Some Malaysians are still hoping for additional Russian-made SU30 or even SU35.  But the fact is after MH17, this is no longer tenable as Russian assistance was not really forthcoming.

So it all boils down to which company which gets the strongest support from their home countries and can be backed by the best offsets programme to boost our own aerospace and non-aerospace related industry.  We have fishing, mining, agriculture, banking and finance, electronics, automotive, textile, wood-based industry, petrochemical, machinery, transportation, chemicals, the list is long.

You can get more from these four countries instead of one.

And based on our threat assessment, are we about to go to war soon?

This is not the purview of just the Ministry of Defence.  Prime Minister's Office, Ministry of Defence, Ministry of Finance are all in the picture.

Malaysia Airlines currently only flies to London.  Of course, they will have to fly to Paris too, but there are also money-making routes to Rome, Frankfurt, Munich, Madrid, Barcelona and Stockholm (Typhoon Gripen/BAe group) that needs to be considered.  So which country or countries that can give us the maximum landing rights at their respective airports to enable MAS to fly the Malaysian flag globally and making tonnes of money while ferrying passengers all over the world?  Profit for MAS means more tax income for Malaysia.

Now, let's look at France again.  They are already a very important supplier to Malaysian Armed Forces.  Should we be overly reliant on the French?  The answer can be yes if we are looking at minimising our logistical nightmare.  But at the same time, is it right for us to put all our eggs in one basket?

So why does these manufacturers still try to compete for Malaysian MRCA contract?  What is in it for them other than the contract?
If you scrutinise things thoroughly, Mexico is now one of the most important supplier of aerospace products globally.  Of course, being in close proximity with the US and Canada helps.  They get tonnes of outsourced jobs from US and Canada (Boeing and Bombardier).

On a closer examination, Malaysia and Mexico share the same DNA.  Both countries have strong electronics and automotive industry that morphed into aerospace plants manufacturing components for airframe, engines and avionics.

Other countries know this and are closely looking at our capabilities and potential.  That is why we have a lot of suitors.

And geographically, it would be feasible for us to serve the European market in the similar capacity to Mexico to North America then.  What you have shared with me are powerful information.  Would you think if the Air Force will still be operating with a token MRCA unit supported by Tier 2 fighters similar to how the Hornets were supported by the MiG29?
Many people did not realise that in ASEAN, there are only two countries with Fitch A related ratings; Singapore and Malaysia.  All other countries in ASEAN are rated at B.  In fact, if you take into considerattion of the MRCA producing countries, even European countries like Italy, Spain and Russia are rated B by Fitch.

We are more than capable to build an air force with potent top of the line MRCA.  This is what the Air Force wants.  Not Tier 2 equipment or planes.  They want the best.

Will the Air Force be willing to accept lower than 1 squadron?
If you follow the MRCA development from the very beginning, it was mentioned that the requirement can vary anywhere between 22 up to 44 planes.  Our defence planners have established that we need 6 squadrons, with the fifth or sixth squadron to be formed by 2030.

So means we still go for the 22 minimum and not the rumoured 8?
It can be purchased in batches of 8 per batch with follow on orders.

So the short term might be 8 planes only, but the long-term be full order then?  I forgotten that we're no longer talking about Tun Mahathir's era of buying token quantity of jets.
Yes, Tun M messed things up last time.

Again to illustrate that the Air Force wants the best.  The Air Force had considered of requesting to procure second-hand Hornets.  But they considered the fact that the Hornets would be obsolete soon as they are at the tail-end of their technological development and would be out of production.  Assuming that we did procure X (censored) units of Hornets, in total we would have X+8 Hornets.  However, by the time the X units arrived, the 8 existing Hornets would have gained their maximum flight hours and no longer be fit to fly.  We would be back to square one only X planes.

Plus, during the first 10 years of operations, the US sanctioned various weapons and equipment for RMAF use.  We have had enough.

If we look at our neighbours, having 2 tiers of aircrafts are not doable nor acceptable.  We already have enough of those in the form of Hawk 108, 208 and Macchi 339.  We need to streamline like Singapore F35, F15 and F16.  We have to admit that throughout their existence, Singapore is the best benchmark on how to develop a powerful air force.

We can target for 18 Sukhois plus 36 Typhoons with follow up orders or 18 Sukhois with 36 Rafales with follow up orders.  These should be supported by up to 24 Aermacchi 346 for LIFT (Lead In Fighter Trainer).  We should target to induct our 5th or 6th generation aircraft by 2040 - 2045.

MAS has bought 6 A380, 6 A350, 15 A330-300, 6 A330-200, and 50 B737-800/Max.  Not to forget, PM DS Najib did intend to buy 8 Boeing 787 for MAS too.  Tony Fernandez's Air Asia is Airbus sole largest customer. 

So what is stopping us as an A-rated country from buying 44 Typhoons or Rafale over a period of 10 years?

Is our aircraft purchase being influenced in any way by Indian Air Force procurement?
Yes, our MRCA requirement was developed at about the same time as India's.  India had selected the Rafale.  But because of the big time lag for our MRCA programme, situation on the ground has changed and the previous conditions are therefore no longer applicable.

3 years ago, BAe did not offer an attractive enough financial package.  And now, the tranche 3 Typhoons can also mount a plethora of AA (air-to-air) and AG (air-to-ground) weapons.

[The next couple of paragraphs includes some future suppositions that may happen if we choose either MRCA for our MRCA programme]
Germany may now also wants to allocate more places at her universities for Malaysians to study.  France and Sweden has decided not to join the EU boycott on Malaysian palm oil.

Not to forget, the Swedes are also part of BAe may also offer the AEW (Airborne Early Warning) platform together with the MRCA, which the offer still stands.  If you're thinking out of the box, why not mix and match?  With the Typhoon and the Erieye.  Either way, BAe wins and it will also be for Malaysia.

Behind all of these, despite the Americans no longer part of the game, they are still looking big at Malaysia.  Besides Spirit Aero, Honeywell and General Electrics (GE) are having plans for Malaysia.  Looking at the big picture of all of these, it is easy to understand why the main MRCA players are not giving up on the Malaysian MRCA contract despite the delays in our decision-making, and these can be made to work in our favour.

Currently, MIGHT, MITI and Matrade are also involved directly or indirectly with the MRCA programme for the planning and execution.

There are many factors to consider, questions to ask and trade-offs to be examined.

The conversation on the topic began to move away from the above topic as we are personal friends.  Well, in a way, Sam is more of a mentor to me when it comes to defence and even economy.

So in all, it is not just about whose balls (the jet) are bigger, but which balls can give more returns (offsets and tradeoffs).

(EKSKLUSIF) KAI, Rakan Tempatan Tawar Pemasangan Akhir Pesawat FA-50 Di Malaysia


Syarikat Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI) bersama-sama rakan tempatannya, Kemalak Systems menawar untuk mewujudkan kemudahan pemasangan akhir (final assembly line) bagi pesawat FA-50 di Malaysia.
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By Admin Last updated Nov 9, 2021
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Pesawat FA-50 yang dibangunkan oleh Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI).
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(DEFENCE SECURITY ASIA) – Sebagaimana yang kita tahu, syarikat Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI) menerusi pesawat pejuang ringannya, FA-50 merupakan salah satu pembida untuk program perolehan 18 buah pesawat Fighter Lead-In Trainer/Light Combat Aircraft (FLIT/LCA) untuk Tentera Udara Diraja Malaysia (TUDM).

Untuk itu, KAI telah menjalin kerjasama dengan syarikat tempatan, Kemalak Systems Sdn Bhd yang juga merupakan rakan perunding bagi syarikat Korea Selatan itu untuk program “Industrial Collaborator Partner” (ICP).
Bercakap kepada Defence Security Asia, Ketua Pegawai Kewangan (CFO) Kemalak  Systems Mej (B) Mohd Iswandi Mohd Sharif berkata,  program ICP yang ditawarkan oleh KAI sekiranya ia berjaya memenangi tender bagi pesawat FLIT/LCA TUDM adalah amat menyeluruh dan mampu melonjakkan keupayaan teknologi tempatan.
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Tawaran oleh KAI itu juga akan mencetuskan kesan berganda (multiplier effect) kepada industri-industri dan syarikat teknologi lain di Malaysia.



Malaysia secara keseluruhannya akan menerima kesan yang positif daripada program kerjasama teknologi yang ditawarkan oleh KAI dan rakan teknologi tempatannya, Kemalak Systems.

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“Bagi program ICP itu, antara tawaran utama daripada KAI sekiranya Malaysia dan TUDM memilihnya sebagai pemenang tender FLIT/LCA itu adalah mewujudkan ‘final assembly line’ bagi pesawat FA-50 di Malaysia.”
“Buat pertama kali, Malaysia akan memiliki kemudahan pemasangan akhir pesawat pejuang. Kemalak Systems telah mencadangkan kepada KAI untuk mewujudkan kemudahan pemasangan akhir pesawat FA-50 itu di Malaysia dan KAI telah bersetuju dan menyertakannya di dalam tawaran mereka kepada Kementerian Pertahanan,” kata Mohd Iswandi.
KAI telah bersetuju untuk melabur (invest) dalam usaha mewujudkan kemudahan pemasangan akhir pesawat FA-50 di Malaysia itu, tetapi keputusan akhir terletak di tangan kerajaan.
Usaha menwujudkan kemudahan pemasangan pesawat FA-50 di Malaysia ia adalah sesuatu yang “besar” dan kesan positifnya daripada kewujudan kemudahan itu akan turut dirasai oleh industri-industri lain di Malaysia.

“Secara keseluruhannya, kewujudan pusat pemasangan pesawat FA-50 di Malaysia akan memberikan kesan positif kepada negara keseluruhannya dan usaha Malaysia untuk menguasai teknologi tinggi terutamanya yang berkait dengan penerbangan,” kata Mohd Iswandi.

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Selain mewujudkan peluang pekerjaan di dalam teknologi tinggi untuk anak-anak tempatan, pusat pemasangan itu juga akan memastikan Malaysia muncul sebagai pemain utama di dalam industri pemasangan pesawat pesawat pejuang.

Beliau juga berkata, pihaknya bersama-sama KAI telah pun mengenalpasti beberapa lokasi kemudahan pemasangan pesawat FA-50, dengan Kuantan antara lokasi yang dalam kajian mereka.
Kemudahan pesawat FA-50 di Malaysia juga adalah langkah yang tepat kerana kos di Malaysia adalah rendah berbanding di Korea Selatan, sekaligus merendahkan lagi kos per-unit bagi pesawat pejuang ringan itu dan menjadikannya lebih kompetitif di mata pelanggan.
Sebagaimana yang kita, beberapa negara lain di rantau ini turut menggunakan pesawat FA-50 termasuk Thailand, Filipina dan Indonesia (T-50i).
Kemudahan pemasangan pesawat FA-50 di Malaysia itu boleh juga memasang pesawat itu untuk negara-negara lain sekiranya terdapat pesanan untuk memperolehinya.


Mohd Iswandi juga berkata, selain pusat pemasangan akhir pesawat FA-50 itu, syarikat KAI juga menawarkan untuk mewujudkan pusat Maintenance, Refurbishment and Overhaul (MRO) untuk pengguna pesawat itu.

Sebagaimana pusat pemasangan akhir FA-50, pusat MRO untuk pesawat itu di Malaysia boleh menjadi pusat penyelenggaran sehenti untuk pengguna-pengguna pesawat itu Asia Tenggara dan negara-negara lain.

Kewujudkan pusat pemasangan akhir FA-50 dan MRO bagi pesawat pejuang ringan buatan KAI di Malaysia akan mengukuhkan lagi kedudukan Malaysia sebagai pemain utama di dalam industri penerbangan (aviation) antarabangsa dan memastikan rakyat tempatan mampu menguasai teknologi tinggi.
Satu lagi kerjasama program ICP oleh Kemalak Systems dan KAI akan menyaksikan syarikat Korea Selatan itu memindahkan teknologi pembangunan simulator kepada syarikat teknologi tempatan, Ikramatic untuk membangunkan “Full Mission Simulator” untuk pesawat FA-50.
Memandangkan bilangan pengguna-pengguna pesawat FA-50 di seluruh dunia semakin meningkat, maka ia menyediakan peluang juga kepada syarikat tempatan untuk memasarkan “Full Mission Simulator” pesawat itu kepada pelanggan-pelanggan yang lain.
Ia adalah tawaran yang amat menarik daripada Kemalak Systems dan KAI. 

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Pesawat KAI-50 buatan Korea Selatan
Sementara itu Mohd Iswandi juga berkata, syarikat daripada Korea Selatan itu tidak mempunyai masalah untuk memenuhi syarat pembayaran pembelian pesawat dilakukan secara “counter-trade” iaitu sehingga (up to) 50 peratus bayaran di dalam bentuk minyak dan produk-produk akhir kelapa sawit.
Beliau berkata, ia tidak semestinya dalam bentuk minyak sawit (crude palm oil) semata-mata kerana ada 11 elemen produk akhir minyak sawit termasuk oleo-chemical, biodiesel dan lain-lain yang boleh dipertimbangkan sebagai bentuk “counter-trade” pembayaran.
“Syarikat Korea Aerospace Industries tiada masalah untuk menerima ‘counter-trade’ bayaran dalam bentuk minyak kelapa sawit dan produk-produk akhir kelapa sawit,” kata beliau dan menambah bahawa pihak mereka juga telah mengadakan pertemuan dan perbincangan dengan Malaysia Palm Oil Board (MPOB).
Pada pendapat admin, apa yang ditawarkan oleh KAI dan Kemalak Systems ini adalah amat menarik dengan kesan yang amat positif kepada keseluruhan ekosistem teknologi di negara ini, tetapi apa pun keputusan akhir terletak ditangan kerajaan.



— DEFENCE SECURITY ASIA

KUALA LUMPUR, 11 Nov – Angkatan Tentera Malaysia (ATM) telah dilengkapkan dengan Sistem Peluru Berpandu Pertahanan Udara Jarak Dekat (Very ShortRange Air Defence Missile System – STARSTREAK VSHORAD) serta sistem pertahanan udara jarak dekat seperti Meriam Oerlikon 35mm dan Igla bagi memastikan kedaulatan ruang udara Malaysia sentiasa terpelihara.

Menteri Kanan Pertahanan, Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Hussein berkata, Tentera Darat Malaysia (TDM), juga telah membuat perancangan perolehan VSHORAD Man Portable Air Defense System (MANPADS) dan Short Range Air Defence (SHORAD) yang telah didaftarkan di dalam Rolling Plan Kedua (RP 2) Tahun 2022, Rancangan Malaysia Kedua Belas (RMKe-12).

Perolehan sistem pertahanan udara ini adalah bagi memperkukuhkan lagi kedaulatan ruang udara negara daripada anasir-anasir asing yang seringkali mencerobohi ruang udara negara.

“Manakala Tentera Laut Diraja Malaysia (TLDM) dan Tentera Udara Diraja Malaysia (TUDM) telah mempunyai perancangan bagi perolehan Surface to Air Missile (SAM) untuk TLDM dan Sistem Pertahanan Udara Jarak Sederhana (Medium Range Air Defence – MERAD) untuk TUDM,” katanya.

Hishammuddin berkata demikian bagi menjawab pertanyaan lisan Ahli Parlimen Hulu Langat, Datuk Hasanuddin Mohd Yunus di Dewan Rakyat, Mesyuarat Kedua, Penggal Keempat Parlimen Ke-14, semalam.

Hasanuddin meminta Hishammuddin menyatakan adakah kerajaan akan membuat perolehan peluru berpandu darat ke udara jarak sederhana seperti ASTER 30 milik Singapura, dan Norwegian Advanced Surface-to-Air Missile milik Indonesia, memandangkan ruang udara negara kerap diceroboh anasir asing yang telah merendahkan maruah Malaysia. – airtimes.my