whatever lah.

no use talking to those that has no idea what they are talking about, when i actually do technical and engineering work day in and out.



so i am having enough of these idiocy.

Meko A300 for Polish...
Tell me again why Gowind is chosen? Meko is not good enough?


Nice sigma 11515...improved version sigma 11514


This post has been edited by Lampuajaib: Oct 13 2021, 12:15 PM

Actually what you trying to bangkang here?

$1.27 billion for the first 2 global eyes compared to $234 mil for the third is not double the cost of the third? Or double the cost of wedgetail?

As it is, UAE are paying double the equipment cost to pay for cost of intergration.

So In ATM context how does paying double the equipment cost to intergrate new equipment into a new platforms help them solve their resources constraints problems?

Why you suggested create a new varient of MCM,MALE, AEW,MPA,.LCA and pays at least double of equipment cost as you yourself acknowledge a superior choice then just go buy something that already completed where you only pay for equipment + profit margin

How is A new varient of LCA at double the cost due to intergration expenses at $50 mil a pop a better choice then just go buy a F16 or Gripen which is around that price as well? Or you know buy an interims solution until a time we can buy a real MRCA or wait for some other sucker to pay for intergration cost in those LCA a worse choice?

How is paying the $30 mil to add MPA equipment to an already existing ATR72 is a worse choice then paying at least $25 to $50 mil to create a new varient of CN 235 MPA?
https://netral.news/en/the-cn-235-aircraft-...-the-price.html

What happened if the end product didn't work as expected or face cost & delivery overrun? What do we hope to gain by taking on those cost & risk?

If anything, the hose country should pay for it, they would benefit from export of it. Not us. Why should we go & be a sucker tongkat other people, allowing others to be rich while we absorbed the cost & risk? How that's math even works?




Ps: The reason apple is successful is they don't go around building solutions to a non existent problem. Their ARM laptop is a solution to a real problem. Don't be like Microsoft who created an Arm PC for the sake of building an arm PC which doesn't solve shit. something a lot of shiok sendiri engineers love to do.

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Lockheed Martin F-22A Raptor : Aged

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Flyable?

Sidah tak de la bro. Ini gambar bila. Tanya kawan kat TLDM

This post has been edited by jwst1313: Oct 16 2021, 11:28 AM

Ini persenjataan kelas kedah sekarang FFBNW






1 x 76 mm oto melara

1 x 30 mm

This post has been edited by jwst1313: Oct 16 2021, 11:38 AM

Can that 30mm intercept incoming subsonic sea-skimmer? or supersonic one?

Yang ada CIW DARDO buatan italy ialah 4 biji Kelas Laksamana Korvet , 675 ton setiap satu di beli dari Fincianteri Italt pada 1997.

Hanya 675 ton berat tapi korvet bertaring harimau.

1) missile otomat anti kapal jarak 150 km x 6
2) Anti udara Aspide VLS x 12
3) Anti submarine torpedoe x 3 launcher
4) main gun 1 x 76 mm oto melara x satu gun
5) CIWS Dardo 30 mm jarak 8 km x twin 30 mm rapid cannon

Hanya kelas laksamana bermula riwayat sebagai korvet yang lengkap dengan CIWS.

Dan lengkap dengan radar italy dan system pengurusam kombat buatan Italy (cms). Boleh dikatakan Kelengkapan atas Kelas Laksamana 675 ton melebihi kelas maharajalela gowind 3100 ton dan jauh melebihi keupayaan LMS Bns 700 tons

Ciws Dardo juga digunakan oleh Tentera Laut Italy dan beberapa tentera laut eropah

Fincianteri merupakan syarikat yang design dan membuat FREMM Frigate untuk Indonesia dan juga membuat FFX baru US navy.

Top speed Kelas Laksamana 36 knots. FCR 60 m PT Pal top speed 28 knots

Tapi sekarang tak pasti spec masih sama atau dah tukar jadi gun boat






This post has been edited by jwst1313: Oct 16 2021, 10:36 PM

Need to reconfigure with combat management system (cms) and fire control radar to tackle high speed missile. No sure la this depend on configuration. This got to ask engineers in TLDM. They vare the expert. I am an amateur naval and military enthutiast. But what i understand la Cannot manual operate . Missles at terminal stage minimum mach 1.5 and above.

For example PTPAL successfully reconfigure the Terma C Naval combat management system (cms made by Terma Group Denmark) and wrstern made fire control radar with China made C-705 ship attack missile. on KCR 40m . TNI shown on video they made a test firing recently and was successful at 70 km range. C-705 is similar to exocet, sea skimming level missle with range between 70 km to 150 km

This post has been edited by jwst1313: Oct 16 2021, 10:42 PM

Kelas Laksamana 675 ton korvet i also know. Only on ghis class. The 4 boats buy from Fincianteri in 1997.



This post has been edited by jwst1313: Oct 17 2021, 12:00 AM

Guess you need a beefier radar that can see things further away first to make it possible to have enough time for the operators, CMS & FCR to operate as intended & the ship has to be strong enough to take such impact so close to it.

Even sinki don't put a standalone CIWS on the LMV & la Fayette. It maybe the most expensive ship in ASEAN but by world standard it's relatively small & cheap ship. Type 26 for example is RM12 billion a piece

But with them have pretty much 'standardized' their radar & weapon systems not just for their navy but also their coast guard. So maybe their 30mm are already configured to take down missiles.

As for us, let just say we have too much suppliers, even the 30mm cannon suppliers aren't being standardized. It maybe possible, but difficult & expensive to do. Thus the keys as always is standardization to create an economic of scale. Even the largest military in the world do JOINT light tactical vehicle & JOINT strike fighter while also working with international partner to create the much needed economic of scale.

Lupa log out ke boss?😂

This also depends on what kind of guidance is available on that C-705 installation, what level of integration with the CMS has been achieved.

For example it's relatively easy to mount Sidewinder on many aircraft. Full-spec Meteor is a whole nother story.

MALBATT 850-9 UNIFIL LUBNAN



Kumpulan Pertama Malbatt 850-9

Dalam Misi UNIFIL Di Lubnan

TUDM LCA/FLIT

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/six-...af-lca-contract

https://defencesecurityasia.com/syarikat-bi...-flit-lca-tudm/

https://tanahairdefence.blogspot.com/2021/1...gs-october.html

https://www.malakattribunenews.com/2021/10/...ca-baharu-tudm/

I don't really get what the AUKUS thing is all about.

That's an interesting list of bids for TUDM LCA. Didn't expect to see the MiG-35 and L-15. There's absolutely no sense in procuring those two right? As for the Hürjet we barely have experience in prototyping, let alone troubleshooting any teething issues.

Nice to see the FA-50 there even with a 50% palm oil "payment". Exciting stuff.