Cooperative engagement e.g.:



The sensor can be say a f35, uav, usv and the shooter can be radar/sensor cold. Vice-versa.

PAF Pilots and Crew sent to Turkey for T129 ATAK attack helicopter training. Photo PAF.

Indonesian PT Lundin (North Sea Boats) G7.



This post has been edited by azriel: May 25 2021, 07:54 AM

Defence policy Indonesia and Malaysia is almost similar, but different in reality.
While Indonesia mastering new tech and capability, Malaysia still stuck in the same hole again.

One of the reasons why Hamas critical bases and tunnels were knocked out very fast once they started lobbing rockets:

Ofeq 16:

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/35991...t-spy-satellite

Something interesting 2 note:

https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/israel...-satellite-deal

This post has been edited by Mai189: May 25 2021, 01:10 PM

RSAF new Caracals are being delivered to Sg. Open source info indicates 2 batch orders of about 16 helicopters each (total of 30-35) to replace the 32 Super Pumas and Cougar helicopters.

https://www.defensenews.com/global/asia-pac...s-have-arrived/

This post has been edited by Mai189: May 25 2021, 04:12 PM

Adieu Super Pumas - sterling service for 30 years in RSAF.

The IDF must have build 3D models of Gaza from all the surveillance data collected. It's easy for them to locate any rocket launch sites and military infrastructure, once Hamas started to fire rockets.

Pindad official video of the Indonesian X18 Antasena Combat Boat (Tank Boat) during sea trial and live firing test.



This post has been edited by azriel: May 25 2021, 10:06 PM

Looks like PT Lundin plan to launch the new Klewang 2 Trimaran Class for the Indonesian Navy in the next few months.

Excerpts:



https://regional.kompas.com/read/2021/05/01...atan-banyuwangi

A screenshot of the new Klewang 2 Trimaran under construction two years ago. Credit to North Sea Boats.



This post has been edited by azriel: May 25 2021, 10:25 PM

https://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1141385

25 MAY 2021

Indonesia's plan to procure Rafale fighters hampered by funding roadblock
by Ridzwan Rahmat

The Indonesian Ministry of Defense (MOD) has made further progress in its effort to procure 36 Rafale multirole fighter aircraft from Dassault Aviation but a formal contract may be delayed by a lack of clarity over funding sources.

In February, a delegation of senior Indonesian MOD officials led by Major General Dadang Hedrayudha, director general of the ministry's defence potential department, completed the latest round of negotiations with Dassault Aviation's vice-president for business development Jean Claude Piccirillo, and vice-president for offset Michael Paskoff.

The negotiations, which largely covered offset and financing arrangements, went well, Maj Gen Dadang said in February. The MOD has since raised a request for the programme to be funded with foreign-sourced loans, ministry officials disclosed in March.

However, a schedule of national projects that have been approved for foreign funding was obtained by Janes on 21 May. It confirms that Rafale programme has not been included. The schedule is published annually by the Indonesian Ministry of National Development Planning (Kementerian Perencanaan Pembangunan Nasional: BAPPENAS), and it spells out national programmes for which foreign loans can be obtained for the year.

As such, given the lack of endorsement from the BAPPENAS, the bid to procure 36 Rafale fighters has not been gazetted by the Indonesian Ministry of Finance (MOF) as a defence procurement programme for the 2021 financial year.

Janes

https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news-det...nding-roadblock

I wonder how much debt they are prepared to incur.

This post has been edited by Mai189: May 26 2021, 12:39 PM

Meanwhile RSAF is receiving its latest Chinooks,:

1) 6× CH-47D/10× CH-47SD Chinooks (1996/1999–present)

2) 16× CH-47F Chinooks - ordered in 2016, delivery slated for 2020 to replace the CH-47Ds:

https://www.defensenews.com/global/asia-pac...6-are-on-order/

Hence, RSAF will operate about 26 to 30 CH-47SD and CH-47F Chinooks.

This post has been edited by Mai189: May 26 2021, 01:27 PM

So what has RSAF Chinooks been up 2?



Wink wink..






Mais note: 1st MRCV heavy frigate will be launched in 2025. All are expected to be commissioned by 2030.

This post has been edited by Mai189: May 26 2021, 01:47 PM

I must say the Endurance 160 (160m to 169m), Endurance 170 (170m to 179m) or follow on larger variants e.g. Endurance 240 bears a lot of resemblance to RNs Invincible class carriers. It is almost as if space is left behind for a ski ramp to be installed:

not really.
ID is doing what we did 20 years ago, buy a little bit of everything on the pretext of transfer of technology and local assembly.
they basically doing it more for the cheer of the crowd just like we did how our navy got 8 warships from 3 different country.
or how we sacrifice things we need and bought thing we dont need like the adnan, pendekar, sukhoi & MIG.


there really not much appetite for it anymore be it from the army nor the public.
unlike ID, MY really think china is a problem and thus are trying to get their shit together from years of mahathir misdirection.


ID are very secure at this moments, they are not direct claimant of SCS. so they dont have to take things so seriously.
theres no need to step on chinese foot too much but just enough so angmoh would move their factories to their country.


SG arent a claimant of SCS, but they are ''obligated' to be involved and thus the mini carrier and destroyer.
and all the sea line of communication propaganda they keep on saying.
so after decades of military spending to invade malaysia, they turn 360 degree and change the acquisition strategy to ' defend '' MY.

despite lots of hiccups. i think we are doing quite well.

seem we are adopting the same strategy as other angmoh country.

tentera darat pretty much just ape aus land 400 strategy isnt it?
1st step get 250 8x8
2nd step get 500 or so more APC & anti aircraft gun (rumours is 250 6x6 has been approve) if anything i think it would the the griffon & jaguar
3rd step finish the networking and get some cheap self propelled howitzer

the 6 maharajalela, MPA, MALE combo is a pretty good ASW combo. RAN also are building 6 ASW frigates.
so it doesnt take a geniuses, to figure out RMN would need 3 AAW frigate next.
the RN is talking about acquiring amphibious assault ship, we too have the same requirement with MRSS

as for the air force, most angmoh country run 100 planes, guess thats why the AF is looking at fa50 i guess. thats the only planes we can afford in numbers.

so no. its isnt the same at all.
MY are preparing for war, ID isnt.

and not just a war to protect our country, the fact we ape angmoh acquisition albeit with lot cheaper hardware, mean we want to join in the war effort in foreign land as well.

Nope.
Just like ID, MY is also looking for tech transfer and building local defence capability. We have deftech, Airod, sme ordnance, PSC/BNS. From Styer to LCS, our local defence industries try to build them locally. After decades ID has emerged as the most capable defence industries in the region but not for MY. ID has entered in subs and fighter technology to be built locally that none asean nation has.

Why SG want to protect MY? There is no agreement of obligation that both will help each other if one is attacked. Even FPDA agreement is not binding to do so.
SG modern military development is a must. They must buy military equipments with advance tech because they have no other way in order to have detterent factor.. No one felt threatened by SG for their advanced equipment.

What China for ID is exactly the same as others. China is a big business partner and major potential security problem. They are seriously developing defence infrastructure at Natuna which is a good thing for MY and SG. China can win war against ID but ID is too big too handle. Getting ID support is much better than against them. That is the reason why you said ID is not preparing for a war with China which is not true. Looking at their military builds up, they are much stronger with local defence industries back up. The situation ID is not required to have in 20 years ago where their nieghbours are only Aus, MY or SG.

This post has been edited by Lampuajaib: May 27 2021, 08:45 AM

Pls read why FPDA was started and why it is relevant and why it is more facilitative as a loose grouping. There is a difference between wanting to buy something and buying it. There is a difference between assembly of equipment ( 2 provide employment et al.) and designing it from the ground up. There is a difference between designing the network which brings disparate systems together and having them work effectively than making everything in-house (does not make sense and you cant as youll source for integral systems elsewhere,).There are certainly strategic areas a country would want to be proficient in and they will dovetail with said countrys' interests.

P.S: Not everyone in SEA hates China. And most countries in SEA welcome a responsibly behaving China contributing meaningfully 2 the international community as part of a wider engagement by world powers here so that no one country dominates and dictates terms. Many of the SEA countries' military acquisitions and development have to be seen in that context esp. SG as a status-quo power in the region.

This post has been edited by Mai189: May 27 2021, 10:36 AM

Read more: https://www.jawapos.com/nasional/20/05/2021...a-agustus-2021/

This post has been edited by azriel: May 27 2021, 10:41 AM

Screenshots of 2 units KCR-60M Missile Boats part of the 3rd batch order for the Indonesian Navy currently under construction at PT PAL Shipyard. Unlike the previous KCR-60Ms this new batch will be equipped with European CMS, sensors, weapons and missiles. Credit to PT PAL.





https://www.instagram.com/p/CPKN-ADHzCk/

This post has been edited by azriel: May 27 2021, 11:26 AM