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post Sep 11 2007, 07:29 PM

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which model of sony is that ? ... mind to share?

to me, sony got too many series...very confusing .. (e.g: V, X, S, D, series, bla bla) ...and then they play around with numbers (1xx, 2xx, 3xx, etc) ..

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post Sep 11 2007, 08:06 PM

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Today I go to Denki shop if I didnt spell wrong....I found the Klv32S10A priced at Rm2999, any idea how good isit? I compare with nearest price samsung and philips....still dont know which better...
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Sep 11 2007, 04:35 PM)
gogo2, is it? I believe there is a mistake since Sony clearly promotes X series as full HD LCD TV. It was also clearly stated in its website.
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Ok, I definitely confused by the Sony Style magazine. So LCD that have Full HD 1080 is 1080p. The thing that confuse me
is the Full HD 1080 camcorder. If you have the magazine, just look at camcorder section where the logo Full HD 1080 is there
with the Full HD 1080 feature but then will pop up 1080i. I'm not sure why 1080i in camcorder can be Full HD 1080. sweat.gif


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QUOTE(xterminator @ Sep 11 2007, 08:06 PM)
Today I go to Denki shop if I didnt spell wrong....I found the Klv32S10A priced at Rm2999, any idea how good isit? I compare with nearest price samsung and philips....still dont know which better...
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if you want to figure out, just bring ur own DVD, then ask them to use just 1 DVD and using HDMI,
connect to all the LCD one by one. Then see the difference. But problem is, do we need to tweak LCD
to get the best picture tongue.gif

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post Sep 12 2007, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Sep 12 2007, 09:54 AM)
Ok, I definitely confused by the Sony Style magazine. So LCD that have Full HD 1080 is 1080p. The thing that confuse me
is the Full HD 1080 camcorder. If you have the magazine, just look at camcorder section where the logo Full HD 1080 is there
with the Full HD 1080 feature but then will pop up 1080i. I'm not sure why 1080i in camcorder can be Full HD 1080.  sweat.gif
That's probably because the 1080i (interlaced) signal, will still display 1080 lines resolution on a Full HD 1080P LCD-TV. So it can still be considered FullHD when played on FulHD LCD-TV.

However on a normal HD 720P/1080i LCD-TV , although it can input a 1080i signal, eventually it will be downscaled to the native 720P resolution of the TV.

In short, a 1080i signal can still be considered Full HD in terms of resolution. The confusion lies with LCD panels that are 720P/1080i. They can't be considered as Full HD panels because the 1080i signal will only be output at 720P.

Am I talking nonsense here. Someone correct me if I am wrong.

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post Sep 12 2007, 02:47 PM

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Hi,

I tot Full HD must comply to de 1080p config... anything less is labelled as HD ready (another confusing term)

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post Sep 12 2007, 02:50 PM

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yes. Full HD must have a minimum rez of 1080p.
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post Sep 12 2007, 07:40 PM

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QUOTE(dirtrun @ Sep 12 2007, 02:47 PM)
Hi,

I tot Full HD must comply to de 1080p config... anything less is labelled as HD ready (another confusing term)

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I was trying to explain why Sony termed their camcoder Full HD even though they can only capture in 1080i.

In their logic, 1080i and 1080p has the same number of resolutiion lines. It's just one is Interlaced and the other progressive. So I guess to them as a marketing tactic they would call it Full HD.

Anyway 1080i is just a transition meaure to enable it to play in both 720P panels and 1080P panels.
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You cannot rate HD = 1080p

Why?

Before 1920*1080p was invented, there is only 1366* 768

It was called HD too.

Then, what if later on, there are new things called 3840*2160 FULL HD

your 1920* 1080p will still be called FULL HD?


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QUOTE(rebirth @ Sep 12 2007, 08:56 PM)
You cannot rate HD = 1080p

Why?

Before 1920*1080p was invented, there is only 1366* 768

It was called HD too.

Then, what if later on, there are new things called 3840*2160 FULL HD

your 1920* 1080p will still be called FULL HD?
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Well, 'FULL HD' is already a common market term for 1080P. Of course thay can call it by other names too, but the above is most common.

In future if they come out with a even higher resolution than 1080 they will just give it another name. Don't have to worry about that.
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QUOTE(Ngto @ Sep 13 2007, 09:45 AM)
Well, 'FULL HD' is already a common market term for 1080P. Of course thay can call it by other names too, but the above is most common.

In future if they come out with a even higher resolution than 1080 they will just give it another name. Don't have to worry about that.
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You are RIGHT!!!

But, in fact, a 32" 1366*768 vs 55" 1920* 1080p, which will give better resolution?

hehehe

from my point of view, they both give similiar result (maybe) and of coz, big sizes means better!!

hahaha

Anyway, i m using Pensonic 42" for my living room, 32" in my room. Both are cheaper than sony. opppss.....almost forget, my brother room has a 32" sony. I cant differentiate the quality for both LCD. HAAHA rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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post Sep 14 2007, 03:27 AM

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QUOTE(rebirth @ Sep 13 2007, 08:37 PM)
You are RIGHT!!!

But, in fact, a 32" 1366*768 vs 55" 1920* 1080p, which will give better resolution?

hehehe

from my point of view, they both give similiar result (maybe) and of coz, big sizes means better!!

hahaha

Anyway, i m using Pensonic 42" for my living room, 32" in my room. Both are cheaper than sony. opppss.....almost forget, my brother room has a 32" sony. I cant differentiate the quality for both LCD. HAAHA rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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Well, for 32', whether it is full HD or not, it doesn't make any difference as smaller and higher density of pixels, so the picture is sharp even it is not a full HD panel, had made an 'A' to 'B' comparison, Sony Bravia D 32' / 40' with Sony Bravia X 46', the difference were not notieceable, both the 32' / 40' models looked equally as good as the pricier full HD Bravia.
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QUOTE(sunauto @ Sep 14 2007, 03:27 AM)
Well, for 32', whether it is full HD or not, it doesn't make any difference as smaller and higher density of pixels, so the picture is sharp even it is not a full HD panel, had made an 'A' to 'B' comparison, Sony Bravia D 32' / 40' with Sony Bravia X 46', the difference were not notieceable, both the 32' / 40' models looked equally as good as the pricier full HD Bravia.
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Agreed ! thumbup.gif
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not to mention the importance of viewing distance (apart from the size). If you have the incorrect distance, you wont get to 'see' 1080p glory
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post Sep 17 2007, 02:38 PM

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My vote is to Toshiba regza A3000e series....
seriously a very detail panel...

check also review here
http://www.smarthouse.com.au/Reviews/TVs_A...isplay/V7E4E9S8
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yesterday I go again sony shop just to looking around D series... The tauke said this end of september or october will be new model W series Full HD that is made in Malaysia and the tauke said this model will be more cheaper...
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See below:

Full HD 1080. Then explain that it is 1080i. OMG.....
But it uses 1080 pixel to get the 1080i...

Maybe what you said is right. 1080p for handycam.
Output is just 1080i. So you need 1080 x 2 to get 1080p????

I'm getting confused....please help....

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post Sep 18 2007, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(geniuz @ Sep 18 2007, 10:30 AM)
yesterday I go again sony shop just to looking around D series... The tauke said this end of september or october will be new model W series Full HD that is made in Malaysia and the tauke said this model will be more cheaper...
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Probably using a lower quality panel if the price is a lot cheaper. I prefer the S-PVA panel that Sony is currently using. Hope to see the next generation S-PVA in the near future. There are still room for improvements.
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post Sep 19 2007, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Sep 18 2007, 11:10 AM)
See below:

Full HD 1080. Then explain that it is 1080i. OMG.....
But it uses 1080 pixel to get the 1080i...

Maybe what you said is right. 1080p for handycam.
Output is just 1080i. So you need 1080 x 2 to get 1080p????

I'm getting confused....please help....

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1080P = 1080x2 ???? Are you crazy biggrin.gif.

Liked I mentioned before, 1080i and 1080p both has 1080 lines of resolution. But the 1080i displays this 1080 lines in 2 passes instead of 1 pass (1080p).

In the 1st pass all the odd number lines (totalling 540) are displayed. For the 2nd pass, the next even lines (also 540 lines) are displayed. 540x2 = 1080i.

As for how a 720P panel can input a 1080i signal, this is my guess. When a 720p processes a 1080i signal it will only take one of the passes (540 lines) and upscales them to 720p. The second pass is ignored. Someone please correct me if I am wrong.

Or is it only a portion of the 1st pass is processed followed by a portion of the 2nd pass, and then both are combined to form a 720p signal. Is this possible? Any technical AV expert here to enlighten me? smile.gif

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so which one is the best 32" LCD?
are we running away from topic?

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