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post Aug 29 2007, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(brabus55 @ Aug 29 2007, 02:28 PM)
surely vote for panasonic..be aware that 32 inch sony v series is not 10 bit panel..only 40 inch..
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That's true but honestly, the 10-bit thingy is rendered and doesn't mean that the screen is a 10-bit panel. Only plasma tvs support true 18-bit colours or billions of colours to be exact so if you want a near cinematic experience, plasma tvs win, hands down. Of course, LCD tvs don't suffer burn in issues so playing your PS3 or XBOX 360 games on it or to use it as a pc monitor, it wouldn't be much of an issue. I have a crazy friend buying both, a plasma and a LCD in his living hall. Yeah, to have the best of both worlds. Hahaha.
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post Sep 8 2007, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(xterminator @ Sep 7 2007, 06:40 PM)
Want to ask something guys.....If using LCD Tv combine normal dvd player isit ok or blur? Seems many ppl like use hd player
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Use an upscaling dvd player with HDMI output for best picture quality.
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post Sep 11 2007, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(eye @ Sep 11 2007, 03:22 PM)
get those lcd tvs with 100mhz refresh rate ... they are supposedly the bestest at this stage.
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I guess you're referring to Panasonic's 700 series, Sony Bravia D series and the latest Sharp LCD, all have this double refresh rates. Honestly, it does improve the motion flow of movies and games.
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post Sep 14 2007, 03:27 AM

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QUOTE(rebirth @ Sep 13 2007, 08:37 PM)
You are RIGHT!!!

But, in fact, a 32" 1366*768 vs 55" 1920* 1080p, which will give better resolution?

hehehe

from my point of view, they both give similiar result (maybe) and of coz, big sizes means better!!

hahaha

Anyway, i m using Pensonic 42" for my living room, 32" in my room. Both are cheaper than sony. opppss.....almost forget, my brother room has a 32" sony. I cant differentiate the quality for both LCD. HAAHA rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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Well, for 32', whether it is full HD or not, it doesn't make any difference as smaller and higher density of pixels, so the picture is sharp even it is not a full HD panel, had made an 'A' to 'B' comparison, Sony Bravia D 32' / 40' with Sony Bravia X 46', the difference were not notieceable, both the 32' / 40' models looked equally as good as the pricier full HD Bravia.
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post Sep 18 2007, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(geniuz @ Sep 18 2007, 10:30 AM)
yesterday I go again sony shop just to looking around D series... The tauke said this end of september or october will be new model W series Full HD that is made in Malaysia and the tauke said this model will be more cheaper...
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Probably using a lower quality panel if the price is a lot cheaper. I prefer the S-PVA panel that Sony is currently using. Hope to see the next generation S-PVA in the near future. There are still room for improvements.
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post Sep 26 2007, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(iman_210 @ Sep 26 2007, 04:04 PM)
i thought 100hz has no correlation with ghosting? can clarify? ghosting is correlated to response time right?

and uhm...dun think below rm3k we can watch 32 inch full hd? so on that persona i might be far from acquiring  full hd ones...

but at the moment m interested to know whether a 50hz and 100hzz does make a lots of difference...
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I would say higher refresh rates will mean smoother motion and less eye fatigue. The refresh rates for most pc gaming rigs are around 85HZ (the higher the better) so for LCD tvs sporting 100HZ or 120HZ (PAL) refresh rates, it is a breakthrough and I do feel ghosting is related to response time.
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post Sep 26 2007, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(iman_210 @ Sep 26 2007, 04:26 PM)
yup less eye fatigue...thats is correct, smoother and motion...but do we c any difference as to 50hz and 100hz to our naked eye?

i dun c it while i was in best denki...
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Well, for action packed movies, like when King Kong swings and jumps while fighting the dinosaurs, it's smoother with 100hz. I have done A-B comparisons with Sony Bravia D & V series. That is what I feel. You can bring your own disc to test it. Of course, games will benefit the most with 100hz especially Gears Of War, FEAR and GRAW 2.
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post Sep 27 2007, 02:40 AM

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QUOTE(iman_210 @ Sep 26 2007, 06:39 PM)
i cant tell its difference...


Added on September 26, 2007, 6:41 pm

yup i know in a crt dude...but on a lcd? thought response time would double up as less eye fatigue...
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Well, you can tell the difference between a normal LCD running at 50 HZ / 60 HZ to one running at 100 HZ / 120 HZ. It's not too hard to spot the differences. Even my mum could spot the difference when we were at a Sony Centre looking at the Bravia S, V & D series. The increased refresh rates do help in reducing motion juddering, most noticeable in a sports game, when the camera pans and zooms. Try again, I'm sure you'll spot the difference. If not, just get a basic LCD will do if you're happy with what you see but for me, I'm aware that it's not the same.
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post Oct 3 2007, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(zhuan97 @ Sep 27 2007, 06:10 PM)
suggest u wait for Panasonic TX-32LX75MK @ RM2999, will be arriving soon (as i heard from Pana sales person)

- IPS-alpha LCD Panel
- 7,000:1 Contrast

I went to Panasonic Dealer Shop yesterady to have a look on Panasonic TX-32LX700MK, picture and sound quality quite impressive.

the boss sell this model for RM3880 cash, and RM4075 instalment.

anyone have experience to compare both Panasonic TX-32LX700MK & Sharp LC32A53M side by side?
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The Panasonic TX-32LX700MK doesn't have very deep blacks, dark scenes looked greyish and colours are not as vivid as Samsung R8 or Sony Brave V / D series but if you like a panel which is more neutral and tonned down, this might be the one for you but for myself, I prefer something bright with strong colours.
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post Oct 7 2007, 12:50 AM

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QUOTE(vex @ Oct 6 2007, 01:19 PM)
i think becos of IPS panel, the dark is not so great compare to PVA panel.
this is common disadvantage of IPS panel, but the color reproduction for IPS is better than PVA alot.
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IPS has better viewing angles and richer colours but for deeper blacks, S-PVA panels will win by a bigger margin. Both panels have their pros and cons.
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post Oct 11 2007, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(alvincks @ Oct 9 2007, 10:21 PM)
how to we know if the panel is IPS or S-PVA ? what are the model and brand fall into respective panel ?
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IPS panels normally used by LG, Philips, Panasonic and Hitachi (not all models lah, the higher end models use IPS panels). S-PVA mostly used by Sony or Samsung (selected models only).
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post Oct 17 2007, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(greyPJ @ Oct 13 2007, 02:36 PM)
Sharp Aquos uses what panel ahh?
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Sharp is using their own panels so it doesn't fall under the IPS or S-PVA panels.


QUOTE(myliew @ Oct 16 2007, 07:43 PM)
hi, im planing to buy Samsung LA32R81B at the price of RM3499. But now, i saw this SONY KLV-32S310A selling RM2999. in term of spec, witch one is better?
pls advice, i have no idea about all this LCD TV.
TQ
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Well, to be frank, Samsung's R8 will be the winner here if compared to the S series model but you can consider Sony's Bravia V series, you should be able to get it around RM3700 plus after nego, that is even better than Samsung's R8.
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post Oct 19 2007, 01:48 AM

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QUOTE(adrian0229 @ Oct 18 2007, 03:05 PM)
ya...wat fariq said is exactly correct...well educated fariq...haha...sony juz buy from sharp...u all tot sony so good meh?if ppl kno bnout electronic...they wont buy sony de....  whistling.gif  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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Only the first batch of PSPs from Sony are using Sharp TFT screens, the current PSPs in the market are using Samsung TFT screens, the difference is Sharp's TFT has better colours and less ghosting. This is an attempt by Sony to cut down production costs of their small wonder handheld.
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post Oct 23 2007, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(Ngto @ Oct 23 2007, 10:31 PM)
Any of you interested in the LG 37" LC4R or the LC7R. I am getting either of these (New Set) from LG as a replacement for my LC2R (old model, no more parts) which  they were unable to repair.

Once I get it I will be trying to sell off at a discount and buy another model.

I am not trying to sell now (yet to receive the set yet). Just want to know if there is a chance any of you might be interested.
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37" is sure a sweet spot for a LCD tv, it's the right size for movies and gaming plus viewing full frame contents in their actual size won't look too small. Gud luck in your sales Bro. Anyone who haven't bought a LCD yet, should consider Bro Ngto's offer.
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post Oct 26 2007, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Oct 25 2007, 09:37 AM)
shud be 8ms
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It's 8ms, only certain Sharp models listed as 6ms but I doubt their figures are accurate.
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post Nov 2 2007, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Oct 30 2007, 10:05 AM)
plasma is the fastest, no ms biggrin.gif
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Not only that, most plasma panels support 18-bit colour (billions of colours) whereas for LCD tvs, mostly are 8-bit panels with some models from Sony and Samsung supporting a true 10-bit panel. The only saving grace for LCDs will be that they're much brighter than Plasma panels. Of course, it doesn't mean anything if you're watching Astro or normal dvds, which are only 8-bit at the moment. Even the current HD-DVD and Blu-Ray lineup don't support more than 8-bit colour at the moment.
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post Nov 3 2007, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Nov 3 2007, 01:34 AM)
but then its futurprof for 18bit? biggrin.gif
dunno ler, me kinda prefer plasma kalers, although the reflective glass is annoying @ times

my next purchase id possible will stil be a plasma, and a pioneer one if possible biggrin.gif
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18-bit is not future proof but it's like what you have said, you prefer the rich colours offered by plasma, that's b'coz it has a 18-bit panel. Pioneer will be releasing 24-bit panels next year, I guess it will hit the RM20K mark and above for sure since it is probably a full HD plasma tv. Blu-Ray and HD-DVD formats can support up to 36-bit colour via HDMI v1.3 spec but so far, none of them in the market supports more than 8-bit colours. Maybe in the next few years or when Transformers 2 hit HD-DVD in 2010. laugh.gif
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post Nov 4 2007, 03:22 AM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Nov 3 2007, 12:58 PM)
pioneer shud start making plasma in msia to give it a better price, the kuro series can really kill me sad.gif

wat u saying now is tat those hd dvd and BD can do 36 bit, but now only utilise until 8 bit is it?
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Yup, that's true. It's b'coz they haven't have the necessary authoring tools and supporting hardwares yet. The PS3 is HDMI v1.3 ready and it supports 36-bit and even 48-bit colours too so it's up to game developers to decide whether they wish to support 36-bit colours for their games but I frankly feel that it is not possible considering the fact that the GPU in the PS3 is weaker than XBOX 360 or current pc graphic cards. The frame rates will suffer if it is implemented because of the higher bandwidth requirements. XBOX 360 can't even support 36-bit or 48-bit colours as it's doesn't meet the HDMI v1.3 requirements.

Pioneer Kuro really thumbup.gif but sadly such panels can't be produced here. Most of the made in Malaysia high tech products suffer from QC problems. It's better that it is fully imported from Japan especially when it is positioned as a high end product.


QUOTE(saiga @ Nov 3 2007, 01:15 PM)
those billion of colors? can we really see the different ?  rclxub.gif

either one is ok for me next,as long the size minimum 42 inch  tongue.gif
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Well, ask yourself one question, can you differentiate between a 6-bit TN panel with a 8-bit IPS / S-PVA panel for computer LCD monitors? If your answer is a no, then I guess you should know the answer. Well, colour banding is not a problem with panels able to output billions of colours, not only it looks smoother, it's more fluid and natural too, giving you a film like experience. That's where Plasma wins in this respect.
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post Nov 7 2007, 12:53 AM

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QUOTE(adrian0229 @ Nov 6 2007, 02:03 PM)
wow....32r81 sell at 3.2? wif 5yrs extended warranty? wow...damn nice deal...
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Wah, the price dropped so quickly. Scary ...... Probably the new models from Samsung should be hitting the market soon. I believe the next batch will have 100MHZ motion flow and 3 HDMI inputs at least.
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post Nov 8 2007, 01:41 AM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Nov 5 2007, 10:25 AM)
sunauto, wat abt movies, dun really bother abt the games though
can movies do their kaler in 36 bit?

besaid, let us know ur viewing distance, malas to see the diagram
and wat would u watch it with
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Movies? In what sense? Astro? Tv programs? DVDs? If yes, they support 8-bit colour only, 36-bit is only possible with HDMI v1.3 certified panels and equipments.

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