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post Sep 7 2007, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(xterminator @ Sep 7 2007, 06:40 PM)
Want to ask something guys.....If using LCD Tv combine normal dvd player isit ok or blur? Seems many ppl like use hd player
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Still OK, quite good.

But it also depends on the signal of the DVD player itself. If you have DVD player with component output, make sure it's connected via component output. Set it to 480P if possible. The signal will output at 480P and your LCD TV will do the upscale it to it's native resolution.

Don't use the composite AV type connection. It won't be as good.

But better still (assuming you have a 720P LCD TV), buy a HDMI player which can upscale to 720P/1080i. Don't forget to buy a HDMI cable as well. It will be better than component.


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post Sep 8 2007, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(xterminator @ Sep 8 2007, 07:55 AM)
Thanks for reply....if I need normal dvd with 5.1, any recommend brand.. rclxms.gif
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I can't recommend normal DVD player because I am currently using Sony HDMI 76H which cost RM560/-. Sorry.

But I have played normal DVD using Sony PS2 connected via Component (480i) to my LG 37" LCD TV. I must say I find it pretty decent. Maybe the upscale by my LG was quite good.


Added on September 8, 2007, 11:03 pm
QUOTE(gsdev @ Sep 8 2007, 09:25 PM)
Any more new info on this new sharp 100hz LCD. My projection Philips 43 just broke down again  sad.gif . Its the 4th time now since 3 + years.

Thinking of getting the 37 inch LCD... hmm.gif
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My guess is new things like this will cost a lot initially.


Added on September 8, 2007, 11:05 pm
QUOTE(brabus55 @ Sep 8 2007, 04:23 AM)
new sony D series looks good..but i can't wait to c the new sharp 100hz..theres one 37 inch philips full HD (1920 x 1080) selling for 5499...37PFL7422...
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Are you sure about the Philips? How come so cheap for 1080P.

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post Sep 8 2007, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(xterminator @ Sep 8 2007, 11:09 PM)
Thanks for replying rclxms.gif
Most Lcd tv, between philips and sharp....which one is better and cheaper? icon_question.gif
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I don't dare recommend because I don't own them smile.gif

Quite often, when I go to the shops, the displays of the various brands are not evenly connected. One brand might look better than another in one shop, but in another the opposite might happen. It all depends on what sort of demo they are playing and also what type of connection they are using etc. Also depends on the adjustments on the LCD TV itself.

See if any of the sifus here can provide you with better feedback.
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post Sep 9 2007, 03:13 AM

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QUOTE(brabus55 @ Sep 9 2007, 12:29 AM)
m very sure bout that..my fren snapped a pic of it..it's 37 inch,that's y it's cheap..
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Then it's really cheap. Some Normal 720P 37" costs close to the price of the Philips 1080P. Other 1080P (above 40") costs RM10,000/- and above.

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post Sep 12 2007, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Sep 12 2007, 09:54 AM)
Ok, I definitely confused by the Sony Style magazine. So LCD that have Full HD 1080 is 1080p. The thing that confuse me
is the Full HD 1080 camcorder. If you have the magazine, just look at camcorder section where the logo Full HD 1080 is there
with the Full HD 1080 feature but then will pop up 1080i. I'm not sure why 1080i in camcorder can be Full HD 1080.  sweat.gif
That's probably because the 1080i (interlaced) signal, will still display 1080 lines resolution on a Full HD 1080P LCD-TV. So it can still be considered FullHD when played on FulHD LCD-TV.

However on a normal HD 720P/1080i LCD-TV , although it can input a 1080i signal, eventually it will be downscaled to the native 720P resolution of the TV.

In short, a 1080i signal can still be considered Full HD in terms of resolution. The confusion lies with LCD panels that are 720P/1080i. They can't be considered as Full HD panels because the 1080i signal will only be output at 720P.

Am I talking nonsense here. Someone correct me if I am wrong.

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post Sep 12 2007, 07:40 PM

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QUOTE(dirtrun @ Sep 12 2007, 02:47 PM)
Hi,

I tot Full HD must comply to de 1080p config... anything less is labelled as HD ready (another confusing term)

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I was trying to explain why Sony termed their camcoder Full HD even though they can only capture in 1080i.

In their logic, 1080i and 1080p has the same number of resolutiion lines. It's just one is Interlaced and the other progressive. So I guess to them as a marketing tactic they would call it Full HD.

Anyway 1080i is just a transition meaure to enable it to play in both 720P panels and 1080P panels.
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post Sep 13 2007, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(rebirth @ Sep 12 2007, 08:56 PM)
You cannot rate HD = 1080p

Why?

Before 1920*1080p was invented, there is only 1366* 768

It was called HD too.

Then, what if later on, there are new things called 3840*2160 FULL HD

your 1920* 1080p will still be called FULL HD?
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Well, 'FULL HD' is already a common market term for 1080P. Of course thay can call it by other names too, but the above is most common.

In future if they come out with a even higher resolution than 1080 they will just give it another name. Don't have to worry about that.
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post Sep 19 2007, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Sep 18 2007, 11:10 AM)
See below:

Full HD 1080. Then explain that it is 1080i. OMG.....
But it uses 1080 pixel to get the 1080i...

Maybe what you said is right. 1080p for handycam.
Output is just 1080i. So you need 1080 x 2 to get 1080p????

I'm getting confused....please help....

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1080P = 1080x2 ???? Are you crazy biggrin.gif.

Liked I mentioned before, 1080i and 1080p both has 1080 lines of resolution. But the 1080i displays this 1080 lines in 2 passes instead of 1 pass (1080p).

In the 1st pass all the odd number lines (totalling 540) are displayed. For the 2nd pass, the next even lines (also 540 lines) are displayed. 540x2 = 1080i.

As for how a 720P panel can input a 1080i signal, this is my guess. When a 720p processes a 1080i signal it will only take one of the passes (540 lines) and upscales them to 720p. The second pass is ignored. Someone please correct me if I am wrong.

Or is it only a portion of the 1st pass is processed followed by a portion of the 2nd pass, and then both are combined to form a 720p signal. Is this possible? Any technical AV expert here to enlighten me? smile.gif

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QUOTE(phelix @ Sep 19 2007, 03:08 PM)
so which one is the best 32" LCD?
are we running away from topic?
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Sorry about that biggrin.gif . Which is the best is very subjective. Ask 5 diff persons and you might get 5 diff answers.
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post Oct 23 2007, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(wedjohn57 @ Oct 23 2007, 06:19 PM)
i also saw this model LG 32LB9R~but dont knw whether good or not~
anyway the design is very nice~but if not mistaken, this model got only 32",42" and 47"
i am looking for 37" lcd~

how much the ppl offer u?


Added on October 23, 2007, 6:21 pm

the shop u check in ss2 called wat name? isnt same row with the murni thr?
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Any of you interested in the LG 37" LC4R or the LC7R. I am getting either of these (New Set) from LG as a replacement for my LC2R (old model, no more parts) which they were unable to repair.

Once I get it I will be trying to sell off at a discount and buy another model.

I am not trying to sell now (yet to receive the set yet). Just want to know if there is a chance any of you might be interested.

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QUOTE(sunauto @ Oct 23 2007, 10:52 PM)
37" is sure a sweet spot for a LCD tv, it's the right size for movies and gaming plus viewing full frame contents in their actual size won't look too small. Gud luck in your sales Bro. Anyone who haven't bought a LCD yet, should consider Bro Ngto's offer.
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post Nov 3 2007, 02:03 AM

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QUOTE(redken @ Nov 2 2007, 10:14 PM)
Why did it die? I am curious coz i have a LC2 too.
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It didn't die. Just had a defect. When a scene is really bright, you won't notice the defect because the brightness masks it. But if the scene is half bright and is mostly of single colour like a plain blue sky or a plain coloured wall, then the defect shows. It is a large patch of darker colour from the middle left of the screen stretching to the center of the screen. If the scene is blue it will appear as a darker blue etc.

It is most annoying when I am staring at it whan using my computer on a white background. The patch will appear as gray.

How old is your LC2R btw? Is it 37" inch too?

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It depends on the options available in the various sets.

My older LG 37LC2R had 8 different sizes to choose from for TV viewing, among them the Full mode . Don't know if it's the same feature you are talking about.

But I think the new LC7R series no longer has the Full mode.
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Nov 15 2007, 12:48 AM)
Yes, he say it was full mode. How come new model dun have? Then all the people will look fat!!! rclxub.gif
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Still not sure if you are referring to the same Full mode as the LG.

Here's a few options available on my set

1) Original mode (Just like original 4:3) on conventional TV - You get the right proportion
but since the TV is 16:9 , the left and right side will have black bars of course.
2) 4:3 mode - Will force the source to be in 4:3 mode (in this case same as above)
3) 16:9 mode - will enlongate the 4:3 TV image to fit the 16:9 screen (People will look Fat)
4) 14:9 mode - Will take the 4:3 image and overscan the top and bottom slightly so that the image
is bigger and the black bars on left and right are less. The image will still look proportionate.
5) Zoom1
6) Zoom2
7) Spectacle- Almost the same is 16:9 but top and bottom hass more overscan
8) Full - Whenever the TV program is in widescreen (with the black bars at top and bottom)
it will automatically detect and enlage the top and bottom so that the black bars disappear. The peoples faces will then be proportionate.
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QUOTE(ape @ Nov 16 2007, 11:42 AM)
I plan to buy a 37" LCD TV by early next year, my budget is ard 3.5k. which brand/model i can get? I saw some dvd player now have this upscale function, did the upscale function really make the difference?
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If want to buy next year, then you are wasting your time asking the price now. Price changes very fast.

If want to buy now, then some shop quoting Toshiba 37" at slightly less than RM3,600/-. The LG 37LC4R should be less than that.
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Nov 16 2007, 12:11 PM)
the WL66E ar?
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Nope the latest model. Anyway that's what they quoted me on the phone.
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Nov 16 2007, 12:30 PM)
wow, A3000 so cheap ar?

cash price is it?
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Should be Cash Price. Why not you call up to confirm. I was asking about a few models, could have been mistaken. You know the famous shop smile.gif


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QUOTE(adrian0229 @ Nov 16 2007, 12:35 PM)
37a300 is cheap lo...3.6++
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Less than RM3,600/-

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QUOTE(berd696 @ Nov 17 2007, 08:19 PM)
is it true my fren went to HSN at USJ the sales man said that dont be fool by the quality of the image on the display becasue each manufacture such as samsung sony and othes provide them a image booster to improve image quality for thier products..is it? and my fren says it only supply to reseller not for consumer.. is it?
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They above manufacturers provide their own special player with a very good quality image specially to play on their own products.

Even when the shop is just using ordinary players, they sometimes don't always use the same type of connectors resulting in different quality image. I have seen some connected with just the normal AV cable and others with component cables. Of course the component cables have the advantage.

There are also lots of other factors involved, so don't always be taken in by the tricks of the trade. Even a little thing like the placement of the display (how high or low in relating to your eye level) wil affect the image quality.
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QUOTE(runemastertan @ Nov 17 2007, 10:51 PM)
Some manufacture even boost that they have 1million:1 contrast ratio..... I dunno whether this is true or not, but usually this super high contrast brings nothing but marketing feat.

And if you notice... contrast ratio are even divided into the static and dynamic  ratio, which dynamic is usually around 1.5 to 2 times the static ratio.

trust your eye more than these figures
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Should be around 4 or 5 times. Dynamic ratio is nonsense, all jack up their figures so as not to lose out to their competitors. Just like for music they always quote incredible PMPO figures whereas RMS should be a more accurate indicator.

Take for e.g LG LC7R model. The average contrast is only 1,000:1 but they quote an incredible Dynamic contrast of 10,000:1.

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QUOTE(elmofudd @ Nov 18 2007, 08:44 AM)
which 32" LCD TV is best for use for PS2 games, DVD and sometimes used as computer monitor (e.g. games)?
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For PS2 games don't use LCD TV.

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