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Jordy
post Oct 5 2007, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(leekk8 @ Oct 5 2007, 10:29 AM)
Buying a balanced fund is not a very wise choice for me. I think buying equity fund and bond fund separately to make your portfolio balanced is much better.

Anyway, PFEDF is a good dividend fund, giving stable annual income and high dividend yield stocks are always safe to invest.
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Do not constrain yourself in a small area to allow diversification..
PFEDF, as the name suggests, invests mainly in Far-East countries (China, Hong Kong, Taiwan, Korea, etc) and thus less diversified..
For dividend funds, PIADF has better coverage because it spreads across the whole Asia ex Japan, meaning covers from China to Indonesia..
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post Oct 5 2007, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Oct 5 2007, 11:30 AM)
Dear Unitholder,

We are pleased to attach the market wrap and bond market review for the week/fortnight ended  28 September 2007 for your information.

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Cheers David83.. smile.gif
Looks like PCSF price is set to recover..

HSCEI - 428.45 2.56%


Added on October 5, 2007, 11:44 amPCSF - 0.2714 (net profit 1.8k)
PIADF - 0.2704 (net profit 1.5k)
PBADF - 0.2657 (net profit 1.3k)

PBEPEF - 0.2465 (repurchased net profit -103.5)

Still having profits of over 4k, so still good..
Anyone who got into PCSF yesterday will stand to gain.. smile.gif

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post Oct 5 2007, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(lelong1234 @ Oct 5 2007, 04:11 PM)
HSCEI is now up 4.331%

Hopefully can recover the loses from the past two days...
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Definitely it has more room to grow..
The coming months you'll see more growth from this fund..
I'll be topping up on Monday if the price is good..
HSCEI - 17,540.02 812.97 4.86%
Monday the price might break 0.2800 again.. thumbup.gif

QUOTE(David83 @ Oct 5 2007, 09:41 PM)
Stupid question here:

If I have a PB CC and attached it to my PBebank Internet banking, could I able to use it to topup my PM investment? Like using MBB CC to pay some bills (Streamyx and TM).
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No you can't..
You'll need to logon to PBebank and select the top up option..

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post Oct 5 2007, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Oct 5 2007, 10:49 PM)
I know how to topup using PBebank. I was asking if my CC is attached to PBebank. If I topup using PBebank, will the drop down menu show my CC account whether I could select it to topup? Hope you understand what I meant.
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Oh, sorry that I've misread your post.. smile.gif
Still you can't top up using your CC..
That will put more pressure on CC holders to need to settle the larger bill..
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post Oct 6 2007, 07:00 AM

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Wah, DJ rose so high again..
Looks like I'll be buying at higher NAV on Tuesday.. wink.gif
Now I really don't know if I should top up lump sum or go by 2 tranches..
One on Monday, and another one to average down if slump happens..
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post Oct 7 2007, 01:31 AM

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QUOTE(dzi921 @ Oct 6 2007, 08:15 AM)
You really daring  notworthy.gif

Spekaing in general, the surprise thing is when market is low people scared to buy, but when it is rushing up high people only buy  sweat.gif
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Haha, this is not called daring..
I take calculated risk..
People buy when market recovering ma..
But this is different..
I buy at the peak lol.. tongue.gif
Still anxious to know the NAV..
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post Oct 7 2007, 01:39 AM

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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Oct 7 2007, 01:37 AM)
People tend to buy when the market is low and also showing an upward trend. When the market is rushing up high, it doesn't mean you cannot buy unless you know where is the peak. Similarly, you don't buy when the market is tumbling down where you don't even know where is the sink.
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Also, you have to remember that you shouldn't be greedy..
When the market peaks, buy and sell at your TP, don't hope for too much..
I set my TP for PCSF at 0.3400 by year end.. icon_idea.gif
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post Oct 7 2007, 01:53 AM

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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Oct 7 2007, 01:50 AM)
hmm.gif I will do that in stock exchange but in mutual fund, I think should play it a little differently. As long as the economy is not tumbling to hell, I believe the fund manager will be able to control the fund to reduce the risk of the investment, but in stock exchange, we are our own fund manager ... playing more conservatively is understandable. Not to mention, the service charge of 6% for mutual fund is too expensive if compare to the brokerage, stamping and clearance fees in purchasing stocks ...
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If you're playing more stable markets, yes you can play it slow..
But I'm playing with particularly HK and China markets, so need to do the timing right..
Particularly need to time the exit with the desired profit..
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post Oct 7 2007, 02:01 AM

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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Oct 7 2007, 01:59 AM)
But you are aiming for 6 cents of increment, minus the service charge ... really not much % ...
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That's why I'm getting large volumes..
% not high but with my volume, net profit is also high (in thousands)..
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post Oct 9 2007, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(dzi921 @ Oct 8 2007, 09:41 PM)
Investments (Valued On 21/09/2007):- FD (17.40%), PSMALLCAP (15.99%), PIOF (15.76%), PRSF (25.65%), PGF (23.68%), PIEBF (0.76%), PISBF (0.75%) = 100% (Net Profit = 11.25%)

Investments (Valued On 28/09/2007):- FD (16.92%), PSMALLCAP (16.13%), PIOF (15.72%), PRSF (25.86%), PGF (23.89%), PIEBF (0.74%), PISBF (0.73%) = 100% (Net Profit = 14.38%)

Investments (Valued On 05/10/2007):- FD (16.59%), PSMALLCAP (16.32%), PIOF (15.72%), PRSF (25.87%), PGF (24.06%), PIEBF (0.73%), PISBF (0.72%) = 100% (Net Profit = 16.65%)

Seem good but too bad today KLCI drops sad.gif
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What about putting in some figures..?
% talak syok.. tongue.gif
My current paper profit is RM6k+..

Reminder for you, you forgot to cover the amount invested for your PSMALLCAP..
People will know how much you're investing from there.. wink.gif
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post Oct 9 2007, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(dzi921 @ Oct 9 2007, 09:51 AM)
I know smile.gif

My net profit now is around 12k only
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Mind if I ask, this 12k was cumulative realised profit or paper profit..?
How long it took you to gain this much..?
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post Oct 9 2007, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(dzi921 @ Oct 9 2007, 10:45 AM)
The 12k is net profit if I were to sell off all my funds based on last fri's result

I started investing since mid last year but mainly bond funds. I switched all bonds and topup into equity funds on August correction low. Consider quite fast return for me

I'm aiming 20 to 25 percent net profit. Once hit will switch all equity to bond. If my fund can touch 30 percent then my overall portfolio will touch 100k liao, but doubt I got guts to wait till so high la
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Once you achieve your target, have you got any plans for it..?
You invested less than me and at around the same time as me, but my profit is still only half of yours.. rclxub.gif
I went in on Aug 21, I guess you got them at around Aug 17..?
Then your profit is wonderful.. icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(leekk8 @ Oct 9 2007, 10:47 AM)
You all really quite good in portfolio management and monitoring. I can see some of you really have a huge amount of investment smile.gif Profit also can reach 12k...my investment capital not even half of 12k smile.gif
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I invest a bit to try try only.. tongue.gif
Don't know wanna go full force or not..
Still considering.. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(dzi921 @ Oct 9 2007, 02:24 PM)
Yes, I was lucky to made my first sai lang on 17/08

When I achieved my target I will switch to Bond and wait for next correction. I have no plans to use my money there. This part of portfolio is meant for very long term investment. Retirement plan

After I achieved the Gold Mutual status by next year, I'll move into another type of investment. Most likely Stocks (Blue chips)
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Too bad my money hasn't came on Aug 17, else I could be getting almost 20k profit.. wink.gif
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QUOTE(dzi921 @ Oct 9 2007, 02:39 PM)
Hope you don't mind me asking, last I remember you owed a debt on a previous failed business right?

So settle already? If not yet, then How do you plan to settle?
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I have only settled part of it, ie RM6k..
I'm hoping to get more profit from UT to settle another part of it..
In 1-2 months time, I'll set up another 1 or 2 business(es) to slowly repay the debt..
I'm waiting to sit the FMUTM exam on 27th of this month, then I'll be a UT agent..
In the meantime, I'm securing as many investors as possible..
I have secured half a million worth of investment, so I hope to get my licence as soon as possible..
Then I can repay a big chunk of the debt..
That's my plan for now.. smile.gif
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QUOTE(dzi921 @ Oct 9 2007, 05:39 PM)
How much is your interest on the debt?
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Oh, interest free la..
I was lucky I could get to borrow some money from friends..
But we need to repay them as soon as possible too right..?
We need to be responsible, so I still need the money fast.. smile.gif
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QUOTE(dzi921 @ Oct 9 2007, 08:10 PM)
True smile.gif Must return else people will not trust you liao

But you really have good rich friends. Can borrow you so much money
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A lot of them, so maybe this is called 'leverage'..? laugh.gif
Well, I'm getting money slowly now, so hope my stocks don't make me lose more money can already..
Already lost around RM4k there.. wink.gif
So my profits from UT just covers the losses from stock market..
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QUOTE(David83 @ Oct 9 2007, 08:27 PM)
So nobody could confirm if PITTIKIAL returns to action?
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No announcements means it's not open yet..
Any moves by PM will be announced in advance.. smile.gif
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Huhu, tomorrow my PBADF will have make 10% return already..
Now to decide whether to sell it, or let it rise more..
I already set my target for my agent, I think of cancelling it since I have no use for my money from PBEPEF that I sold yet..
I don't want too much idle money..
Any opinions guys..? smile.gif
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QUOTE(dzi921 @ Oct 9 2007, 08:31 PM)
You so missed this fund meh... (if i recall correctly this is ur fav fund right  tongue.gif)

PS, today's partial result is out and surprisingly all green  thumbup.gif
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Not a surprise because today local equities rose quite a bit in the closing..
Tomorrow my PCSF should pass the 0.2800 mark (praying hard tongue.gif)..
Tomorrow is the day my PBADF will break 10% net profit too..
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QUOTE(David83 @ Oct 9 2007, 08:35 PM)
Perhaps you would want to consider for repaying your debt with your idle money ...
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Cannot la, then I have no more working money to generate the other part of debt..
I need as much money and as little time to maximise my return for the debt..
That's why I'm betting on PCSF for fast money, but looks like the NAV is just not coming down to my comfortable entry level.. laugh.gif
Maybe I'll be going into local funds during this weekend if there's a selldown for the upcoming long holidays..
We'll have to see tomorrow of Thursday for that sign..

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