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post Jan 3 2010, 11:35 PM

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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Jan 3 2010, 11:31 PM)
OIC u r also the supporter of FSM, i maintain account with FSM-HK. Their bond fund initial charge is 0.3%, equity fund only 1%, unlimitted free switching...very good deal.....wise choice.
Many Malaysian Investors do not believe cost of purchasing will affect their return in short/long run, and pay 5-7% initial charge to buy a fund....Ridiculous.
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Yea and on top of that they pay like 1.5% a year or something. Even so given the right time it might not be a bad idea.

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post Jan 3 2010, 11:37 PM

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better than the 2-20 arrangement by hedge funds hor?
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post Jan 3 2010, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Jan 3 2010, 11:33 PM)
Aisey you buy funds cheaper than me.. u must be a gold/platinum member tongue.gif. Fund cost plays a big role in the final earnings.
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even i am a gold member but i dont utilise the gold member discount since FSM-HK every month come up with new fund launching with low initial cost, most of the new fund launching comes with 1% initial charge only, u can buy the fund 1st, lock the initial charge at 1% and then switch to the other equity fund that u desire, since FSM give unlimitted free intra/inter fund house switching, i have been using this method to lower down my investment cost. For gold member, i can only get 0.4% discount from the normal sales charge of 2%, so still need to pay 1.6% initial charge, the method that i mentioned earlier, i.e.1% is better.
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post Jan 3 2010, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Jan 3 2010, 11:27 PM)
Yeah, feeder fund are nasty, also local funds cannot invest 100% overseas. That's why all my international funds are from FSM singapore.  brows.gif
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What's FSM Singapore, I googled it and.. the only FSM I know is the one with the noodly appendages tongue.gif

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post Jan 3 2010, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Jan 3 2010, 11:38 PM)
even i am a gold member but i dont utilise the gold member discount since FSM-HK every month come up with new fund launching with low initial cost, most of the new fund launching comes with 1% initial charge only, u can buy the fund 1st, lock the initial charge at 1% and then switch to the other equity fund that u desire, since FSM give unlimitted free intra/inter fund house switching, i have been using this method to lower down my investment cost. For gold member, i can only get 0.4% discount from the normal sales charge of 2%, so still need to pay 1.6% initial charge, the method that i mentioned earlier, i.e.1% is better.
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Hmm why didn't i think of that trick! Good idea you have there. This will save me load's of money. Thanks! rclxms.gif

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post Jan 3 2010, 11:42 PM

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not to get PM's agent upset..

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post Jan 3 2010, 11:44 PM

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Emm i think not right lar to advetise FSM in Public mUtual thread, or not later a lot of agents get angry. laugh.gif
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post Jan 3 2010, 11:45 PM

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i'm currently waiting for 'discount' in hongkong/china..
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post Jan 3 2010, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Jan 3 2010, 11:44 PM)
Emm i think not right lar to advetise FSM in Public mUtual thread, or not later a lot of agents get angry.  laugh.gif
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Let's make them less angry then.. the charts seem to load a bit too slowly tongue.gif

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post Jan 3 2010, 11:57 PM

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oh maii.. at least you've come to your senses.

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post Jan 4 2010, 12:08 AM

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Okay to get this back on track, know any agents that will look through the funds and alert you to any good opportunities?

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Jan 3 2010, 11:20 PM)
You're brave. Our worst drawdown so far has been a little less than 10%. Like I said, it's boring lol, not 30% in six months or anything smile.gif
I remember KNM and Sime and Uchitec, that was in his portfolio as well. 
We pulled out just before the crash. His point was made, there wasn't any point in going on.
I don't even remember the profit. All I remember was the hassle, the panic, the uncertainty of it all.
Good for you then. I might be in mutual funds given the right time and opportunity, but probably not directly in the stock market. It's crazy to have to wait ten minutes for something to match.
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Nope. I don't consider myself brave. Since I was a noob, I didn't have a stop-loss strategy as I thought that fallen stocks will eventually go up. However, LCL had so much bad news and after discussing with our LYN forumers I decided to cut loss. Brave, definitely no, lucky, YES!!!

Through it all, I didn't have any worries or sleepless nights as I was fishing at the bottom. I don't understand what strategy your friend employed but "matching" sometimes takes the whole day, or even no match at all!!! hmm.gif
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post Jan 4 2010, 02:37 PM

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Public Mutual declares distribution for three funds

KUALA LUMPUR: Public Bank Bhd's whollyowned subsidiary, Public Mutual Bhd, has declared distributions for three of its funds.

The total gross distribution:

1. eight sen per unit for the Public Savings Fund,
2. 0.75 sen per unit for the Public Focus Select Fund
3. two sen per unit for its Public Islamic Enhanced Bond Fund.

The distributions declared are for the financial year ended Dec 31, 2009. Public Mutual is Malaysia's largest private unit trust company with 72 funds under its management.

It has over two million account holders and as at Nov 30, 2009, the total net asset value of the funds managed by the company, was RM34.7 billion. - Bernama

URL: http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...19&sec=business
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post Jan 4 2010, 03:10 PM

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check today's price, found out that 2 bond funds perform extremly well on a single day which is rarely happened.
PB Income Fund up 0.78%
Public Islamic Bond fund up 0.65%
anyone know why? is that "window dressing" to show better return as 31 Dec is the last day of the year?

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post Jan 5 2010, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Jan 3 2010, 11:11 PM)
PAEF = i did not invest in this fund but invest in Commodity ETF instead, cheaper cost to invest, 0.25% initial fees. Not available in Malaysia, but in Singapore /Hong Kong Stock exchange
PFEPRF = a good fund, i put 50% of my bet on this fund. This fund invest in Property/construction companies in far east + REITS.
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So PFEPRF is a good prospect fund eh? Looking at the performance chart for this fund, do you think it'll achieve it's second ever (+ve) in the plot?


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Just bought into PM smallcap fund. Planning to buy regularly every month too. Hope it does well! smile.gif
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post Jan 5 2010, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jan 5 2010, 04:41 PM)
Just bought into PM smallcap fund. Planning to buy regularly every month too. Hope it does well!  smile.gif
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PM SmallCap is one of the good one from PM. I am eyeing too. But I find that the price has gone up tremendously recently. I am putting my money into the bond funds, waiting for some correction before switching over.

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post Jan 5 2010, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jan 5 2010, 04:41 PM)
Just bought into PM smallcap fund. Planning to buy regularly every month too. Hope it does well!  smile.gif
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Well congrats, for me I am going to slowly liquidate 20%-30% of my holdings before CNY, capture some profit first and then wait for better opportunity in mid 2010. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(xuzen @ Jan 5 2010, 04:58 PM)
PM SmallCap is one of the good one from PM. I am eyeing too. But I find that the price has gone up tremendously recently. I am putting my money into the bond funds, waiting for some correction before switching over.

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Yeah, the price is a bit high at the moment.

QUOTE(gark @ Jan 5 2010, 05:56 PM)
Well congrats, for me I am going to slowly liquidate 20%-30% of my holdings before CNY, capture some profit first and then wait for better opportunity in mid 2010.  laugh.gif
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Errrmmm... are you doing that online? If you buy in again, you'll be charged the 5.5% again wor...... hmm.gif
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post Jan 5 2010, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jan 5 2010, 07:56 PM)
Yeah, the price is a bit high at the moment.
Errrmmm... are you doing that online? If you buy in again, you'll be charged the 5.5% again wor......  hmm.gif
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Nah for Public Mutual I am not doing it online, but for my other UT's yes I am doing it online. I am switching over to safer loaded stocks (balanced funds), and for my other cheaper UT's to bond funds, which I plan to switch back to full equities after the price is right. That way i don't need to pay the initial charge for PM and minimal charge (~1%) for other UT's laugh.gif

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