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post Oct 22 2009, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(vandoren @ Oct 22 2009, 01:57 PM)
cheah and jordy,

thanks for your advise.
i have 5k in my saving account, i think it's sufficient as my emergency fund.
i understand that historical performance is just a reference, but at least it will help us to filter out some bad performance fund, agree?
like other export has said, when i start to invest, i will try not to put all eggs in just one basket.
most probably, i will retain the china titans fund, look for one bond fund(maybe put a few k here).
then only look for other higher risk investment.
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My personal emergency fund is 6 x gross monthly salary.

I use the Normandy Table to scrutinize my UT selection. I will only buy UT that are at least 5 years in the market and has a Sharpe Ratio ranked amongst the top three.

But then my risk profile is moderate to conservative investor.

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post Nov 17 2009, 02:05 PM

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Dear fellow investors,

I made a payment through public bank to buy a new fund last tuesday. My record showed the cheque was cleared last wed (11-11-2009).

Until today (17-11-20009), my e-record does not show the transaction. I am getting worried.

My agent said not to worry, it is "normal-lah, not so soon wan, the public mutual people do thing always very slow"

I am writing to inquire if it is really so slow? It is already a week and my transaction is still not recorded in my public online account.

Help please.

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post Nov 18 2009, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Nov 5 2009, 07:08 AM)
Public Mutual declares distributions for 5 funds

Public Bank’s wholly-owned subsidiary, Public Mutual declares distributions for five of its funds. The total gross distributions declared for the financial year ended 31 October 2009 are as follows:

Fund | Gross Distribution / Unit

Public Industry Fund | 4.50 sen
Public Equity Fund | 2.50 sen
Public Islamic Bond Fund | 4.00 sen
Public Asia Ittikal Fund | 0.50 sen
PB Asia Real Estate Income Fund | 1.00 sen
David83,

May I know when are their ex & payment date?

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post Nov 21 2009, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(saTOraRe @ Nov 21 2009, 05:41 AM)
hmm.gif  hm...to bad. maybe should suggest them put DDI service online, since everybody also go for e-banking,
really save alot TIME. Lunch time queuing is MAD.  vmad.gif
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I'd my investing/switching online. Just go to a a Public Bank Branch, open up their basic saving account and ask for for online banking facilities. Then go to Public Mutual and open up an online account.

Thereafter you are set for all online transaction and need not see pesky Public Mutual Agents anymore.

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post Nov 22 2009, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Nov 21 2009, 11:57 PM)
But you have paid the service fee of 5.5%. It's good to consult your  pesky Public Mutual Agents (UTC).
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Errr. David,

What do you mean? With UTC or no UTC present I still pay the standard 5.5% service fee. Sorry I do not get your point.

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post Nov 23 2009, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(Jordy @ Nov 22 2009, 12:28 AM)
xuzen,

First of all, not all unit trust consultants are pesky. So please mind your words as we are providing a service as well.

Secondly, even if you transact online, you will still be charged the 5.5% service charge as mentioned by David83. So you are paying for a service which you never get, which is of course better for us because we get free commission from "good" clients like you.
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Good client like me seldom pay 5.5%. Max I have pay is 0.25%. Truth be told, I think some of your bond funds are quite good.

There are good funds other than PM that have lower charges. It is good when one is using fundsupermart, a one stop shopping center for UT. And we can shop for the lowest charges like in a supermarket.

Also a small footnote, the services provided by UTC e.g. can easily be replicated by technology aka Online e-banking.

Yes I agree that not all UTC are "pesky", but the one I have been exposed to is. The adjective pesky does not apply to you, if it makes you feel any better.

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post Nov 26 2009, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Nov 25 2009, 09:24 PM)
New bond fund from PB: PBB MTN Fund 1

URL: http://www.publicmutual.com.my/page.aspx?name=PBBMTNFund1
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From what I can understand is that this fund will buy into bonds of only a particular insurer namely PBB.

I thought UT is all about diversification, no?

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post Nov 28 2009, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(Jordy @ Nov 28 2009, 05:33 AM)
guanteik,

No worries mate. Too bad some egoists think that UTCs are nothing more than money-suckers smile.gif
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Strictly from a business point of view, there will still be a market for UTC in M'sia because of ignorant/busy/financial illiterate investor.

It is definitely not about ego, more about taking charge of one's decision sans "pesky" interference from well intention agent.

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QUOTE(howszat @ Nov 28 2009, 11:32 PM)
The implementation should be rather simple - those who go through their UTCs for processing pay full fee, those who invest online directly get discounted fees.

I haven't met all 30,000 UTCs, but I suspect a large majority do not depend entirely on the commission as their sole source of income. But you are right, what to do with them is a big question for PM.

Whether they should do nothing in the face of competition is the other question they have to address.


Added on November 28, 2009, 11:38 pm
Not at all. Customers can voice their dissatisfaction and give their feedback to the companies. In fact, companies often pay big bucks to do customer satisfaction surveys.
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You can complain to the company. Some customers just walk away. Some just buy what is good from the company and leave the rest on the shelf. Nothing personal, it is just business.

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post Dec 2 2009, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(guanteik @ Dec 2 2009, 01:08 PM)
frankly these distributions are really peanuts.
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If they are capital appreciation type fund, then Distribution is secondary. The money should ideally be reinvested to gain capital growth.

If large Distribution is your cup of tea, then go into fixed income fund like bond or dividend play funds.

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QUOTE(thenightcrusader @ Dec 29 2009, 02:40 AM)
Dear wirelessdude,

Hmm...tough call cause up to this year the best performing bond is still Public Islamic Bond Fund with an annualized return since inception (15/08/2001) at 6.27% while the closest performance is by Public Bond Fund with 10-year annualized return at 6.88% 

Source: Quarterly Fund Review (Q3, 2009)

Hope that helps  smile.gif

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I'd recommend the PB Fixed Income. Off my mind, it has better Annulized Rtn and Sharpe Ratio.

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jan 5 2010, 04:41 PM)
Just bought into PM smallcap fund. Planning to buy regularly every month too. Hope it does well!  smile.gif
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PM SmallCap is one of the good one from PM. I am eyeing too. But I find that the price has gone up tremendously recently. I am putting my money into the bond funds, waiting for some correction before switching over.

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QUOTE(mtsen @ Jan 10 2010, 06:38 PM)
use DCA to avoid all these doubts ....
use another 5% of your portfolio to speculate like u ask ...
this way u get both sides of benefits.
yes there is, the crystal ball is .... YOURSELF ....... biggrin.gif


Added on January 10, 2010, 6:40 pm2010 is not going to be a bad year, there will be doubtful fundamentals, there will be many issues and questions ... but mutual fund and stock investment wise ... generally its not going to be a bad year. 

but you may want to start at May smile.gif
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Mtsen,

I have a question. Let's just say I have RM 1K per month to invest. Should I buy the funds monthly, weekly or daily in equi amount or does it make not a difference?

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